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John Gotti Jr. arrested on murder charges..

Arabian

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They will probably convict him this time... discuss


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24138420-5012748,00.html


REFUSING to let the US mafia's secrets "sleep with the fishes", the FBI again arrested reputed former mob boss John "Junior" Gotti on murder conspiracy charges.

This time they hope to make the allegations stick.

Gotti - the son of mafia kingpin John J. Gotti - was arrested yesterday at his mansion on Long Island.

It is the fourth time federal prosecutors have tried to convict the one-time reputed head of New York's Gambino crime family.

The alleged mobster is charged with large-scale cocaine trafficking and orchestrating three mafia-related killings in 1988, 1990 and 1991.

The indictment alleges he performed various jobs for the Gambino crime family, which was once the US's most influential crime syndicate, including acting as the de facto boss.

One of the charges involves the infamous 1990 hit on Gambino member and construction contractor Louis DiBono.

Gotti's father, who was known as "Dapper Don" or "Teflon Don", was found guilty in 1992 of authorising DiBono's killing as well as numerous murder and racketeering charges.

"Junior" Gotti, 44, served time in jail from 1999 to 2005 for extortion and running an illegal gambling operation.

Three previous attempts in 2005 and 2006 to send Gotti back to jail on more serious charges collapsed in hung juries and mistrials.

Gotti insisted he had been redeemed and turned his back on his father's crime business, describing it as full of "wolves" and "treachery".

If Gotti is convicted this time he will face life in prison.

He was arraigned at a Manhattan federal court and his lawyer entered a plea of not guilty. He was refused bail.

"This indictment captures a life of criminality by John Gotti," assistant US attorney Elie Honig told the court. "He is a danger for the country."

Gotti's lawyer, Charles Carnesi, said: "Mr Gotti absolutely denies any involvement in the three homicides.

"What you have here is a group of law enforcement people who are disgruntled.

"Gotti has not been in organised crime since 1988. He is living alone with his family, that's all he wants to do," Mr Carnesi said.

Federal authorities gutted the Gambino family's leadership in February when they arrested more than 60 alleged mobsters in New York.

The latest charges involving Gotti and five other alleged mafia members stem from a decade-long investigation into the Gambino family's infiltration into Tampa Bay, Florida.

The indictment against Gotti alleges the Gambino crime family operated in Florida, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania since 1983 and was involved in murder, kidnapping, witness tampering and money laundering.
 
I saw that on tv two days ago. The mob isn't that powerful anymore.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I saw that on tv two days ago. The mob isn't that powerful anymore.
Your right. in the old days people were afraid to testify against members due to retailiation.. Now , the Gambino family is so disorganized no one even gives them a second thought. Gotti senior ruined the mob in by going public and living to large of a public life in the 90's.
 
Arabian said:
Your right. in the old days people were afraid to testify against members due to retailiation.. Now , the Gambino family is so disorganized no one even gives them a second thought. Gotti senior ruined the mob in by going public and living to large of a public life in the 90's.

+1

Right now all the mafias and organzied crime comes second to Asian crime organizations, i.e. Yakuza, Triads, etc....
 
I was reading somewhere where the Russian mob is suppose to be the most organized and ruthless now.. I never knew they had a Russian mob
 
Arabian said:
I was reading somewhere where the Russian mob is suppose to be the most organized and ruthless now.. I never knew they had a Russian mob

KGB?

I thought the Russian mob was weak now :worried:
 
jaybois said:
The Polish mob controls the streets of Chicago.
Discuss the Polish mob please:? what do they run /control and are they like the Gambino Crime Family.. You would think that the Itailians would have 1st rigths of refusal in Chicago
 
LOL @ there hardly is organized crime by the Italians in N. Jersey/New York and Boston


LOLOLOL!
You guys still live under a rock I see
these fuckers are still out there

OLOLOLOLololloololololooooooooooooooooooooooooozers
 
the_alcatraz said:
The mob isn't that powerful anymore.

How do you know this?
Nobody "knows" when organized crime is being done at the time

60+yrs and still people on the run and getting busted, and it's dead?????
Bull f--n shit

the mafia is dead
OLOLLOLOLOLOLOL

Let me take you guys on a little visit to my brothers in Brooklyn
Then you'll realize this activity is running at the same level as always.
 
ortiz34 said:
How do you know this?
Nobody "knows" when organized crime is being done at the time

60+yrs and still people on the run and getting busted, and it's dead?????
Bull f--n shit

the mafia is dead
OLOLLOLOLOLOLOL

Let me take you guys on a little visit to my brothers in Brooklyn
Then you'll realize this activity is running at the same level as always.

no shit. You can start with the corruption in the taxi and strip club world.

r
 
ortiz34 said:
How do you know this?
Nobody "knows" when organized crime is being done at the time

60+yrs and still people on the run and getting busted, and it's dead?????
Bull f--n shit

the mafia is dead
OLOLLOLOLOLOLOL

Let me take you guys on a little visit to my brothers in Brooklyn
Then you'll realize this activity is running at the same level as always.

most italians are in construction and olive oil business :p they've gone legit

the new "mob" is the asian mobs, i.e. yakuza and triads....you'll realize this soon enough...makes no diff to me bro you can think whatever you want to think :)
 
the_alcatraz said:
most italians are in construction and olive oil business :p they've gone legit

the new "mob" is the asian mobs, i.e. yakuza and triads....you'll realize this soon enough...makes no diff to me bro you can think whatever you want to think :)

yes you are right, they are in construction and concrete(huge money)

and they are always busting them for some form of fraud

point being=underground activity is alive and well
always will be
 
the_alcatraz said:
+1

Right now all the mafias and organzied crime comes second to Asian crime organizations, i.e. Yakuza, Triads, etc....
ever heard of the genovese clan?
200plus deep and only one major snitch in 1986
the cadillac of orgainized crime
they stay under the radar so nobody ever hears about them
 
word.

The smart italian clans run their business OUTSIDE nyc/usa.

Hard for the fbi to snoop on leaders when they're not even in the us. They've learned from al qaeda. :)

In real-life Tony Soprano would be living in Woodbridge, Ontario.

r
 
ortiz34 said:
yes you are right, they are in construction and concrete(huge money)

and they are always busting them for some form of fraud

point being=underground activity is alive and well
always will be

you could be right bro...seems like you know info about the mob and organzied crime better than I do....thnx for the info
 
Bino said:
ever heard of the genovese clan?
200plus deep and only one major snitch in 1986
the cadillac of orgainized crime
they stay under the radar so nobody ever hears about them

no i havent but i'm very interested if u have a link or some info to forward me :)
 
the_alcatraz said:
no i havent but i'm very interested if u have a link or some info to forward me :)
Since the 1990s, infamous mobsters in top positions of all Five Families have become informants and testified against as many as they can name, putting the Boss, Capos and Soldiers away on various criminal charges. This included Bonanno crime family Boss Joseph "Big Joe" Massino, who defected in 2005. Several top Genovese crime family figures like Underboss Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano, Consigliere Louis "Bobby" Manna, capo James "Little Jimmy" Ida and Street boss Liborio "Barney" Bellomo received lengthy prison sentences on murder, racketeering and conspiracy convictions. During the last decades, US law enforcement systematically broke down the Genovese crime family, as well as other mafia families. Despite these indictments however, the Genovese family remains a formidable power with as many as 200 made men, and has remained out of the media spotlight. They are still considered to be the most powerful family in the country.

Since late 2004, a series of prosecutions against high-ranking Genovese family capos has weakened the family even more. Liborio "Barney" Bellomo (street boss), already incarcerated for racketeering, was hit with murder charges and will not be released until late 2008. He is considered to be the most viable candidate to named offial sitting boss of the family. Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo, Lawrence Dentico and Mario Gigante, one Consigliere plus senior capos, have also been indicted on broad RICO enterprise charges and put behind bars. Vincent Gigante died in 2005 and the leadership expectedly went to reputed Genovese capo turned Acting boss, Daniel "Danny the Lion" Leo, and with the 2006 release of Gigante's prominent Underboss Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano and the promotion of incarcerated Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo, the Genovese family administration was believed to be whole again during 2008. [14]

However, in March 2008, Acting boss Daniel Leo was sentenced to 5 years in prison for loansharking and extortion. [15] Underboss Venero Mangano is reportedly heading the Brooklyn faction of the Genovese crime family, and acting consigliere, Lawrence "Little Larry" Dentico, operated the New Jersey faction of the family until convicted of racketeering, loansharking and extortion charges. He will not be released until 2009. Rumor has it that {capo?} Paul "Paulie Stripes" DiMarco is heading up day-to-day activities, but further information can not be confirmed. In July 2008 one time street boss for Vincent Gigante Liborio "Barney" Bellomo was paroled from prison after serving 12 years. What role he will play in the Genovese hierarchy is open to speculation, but he is likely to have a major say in the running of the family once his tight parole restrictions are over.

Although the much weakened Genovese family is heavily under pressure, it still succeeds much power and influence in several areas of New York, New Jersey, Atlantic City and Florida. It is being recognized as the most powerful Mafia family in the United States. [16]


200 people is a lot of made guys...esp considering they all have crews of unmade bros, looking at at least 1,000 affilliated peeps.
 
not bad for a washed up "mob"

I'm surprised actually that they still have that much power


Bino said:
Since the 1990s, infamous mobsters in top positions of all Five Families have become informants and testified against as many as they can name, putting the Boss, Capos and Soldiers away on various criminal charges. This included Bonanno crime family Boss Joseph "Big Joe" Massino, who defected in 2005. Several top Genovese crime family figures like Underboss Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano, Consigliere Louis "Bobby" Manna, capo James "Little Jimmy" Ida and Street boss Liborio "Barney" Bellomo received lengthy prison sentences on murder, racketeering and conspiracy convictions. During the last decades, US law enforcement systematically broke down the Genovese crime family, as well as other mafia families. Despite these indictments however, the Genovese family remains a formidable power with as many as 200 made men, and has remained out of the media spotlight. They are still considered to be the most powerful family in the country.

Since late 2004, a series of prosecutions against high-ranking Genovese family capos has weakened the family even more. Liborio "Barney" Bellomo (street boss), already incarcerated for racketeering, was hit with murder charges and will not be released until late 2008. He is considered to be the most viable candidate to named offial sitting boss of the family. Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo, Lawrence Dentico and Mario Gigante, one Consigliere plus senior capos, have also been indicted on broad RICO enterprise charges and put behind bars. Vincent Gigante died in 2005 and the leadership expectedly went to reputed Genovese capo turned Acting boss, Daniel "Danny the Lion" Leo, and with the 2006 release of Gigante's prominent Underboss Venero "Benny Eggs" Mangano and the promotion of incarcerated Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo, the Genovese family administration was believed to be whole again during 2008. [14]

However, in March 2008, Acting boss Daniel Leo was sentenced to 5 years in prison for loansharking and extortion. [15] Underboss Venero Mangano is reportedly heading the Brooklyn faction of the Genovese crime family, and acting consigliere, Lawrence "Little Larry" Dentico, operated the New Jersey faction of the family until convicted of racketeering, loansharking and extortion charges. He will not be released until 2009. Rumor has it that {capo?} Paul "Paulie Stripes" DiMarco is heading up day-to-day activities, but further information can not be confirmed. In July 2008 one time street boss for Vincent Gigante Liborio "Barney" Bellomo was paroled from prison after serving 12 years. What role he will play in the Genovese hierarchy is open to speculation, but he is likely to have a major say in the running of the family once his tight parole restrictions are over.

Although the much weakened Genovese family is heavily under pressure, it still succeeds much power and influence in several areas of New York, New Jersey, Atlantic City and Florida. It is being recognized as the most powerful Mafia family in the United States. [16]


200 people is a lot of made guys...esp considering they all have crews of unmade bros, looking at at least 1,000 affilliated peeps.
 
the_alcatraz said:
not bad for a washed up "mob"

I'm surprised actually that they still have that much power
they run a tight crew...the only made bro to turn witness was a guy by the name of fish cafaro in 1986
intriuging to me...esp considering the amount of pressure the FBI puts on them.
while gotti and company was flashing around town, these bros were moving quietly
 
Bino said:
they run a tight crew...the only made bro to turn witness was a guy by the name of fish cafaro in 1986
intriuging to me...esp considering the amount of pressure the FBI puts on them.
while gotti and company was flashing around town, these bros were moving quietly

how you know so much about the mob? :evil:
 
the_alcatraz said:
how you know so much about the mob? :evil:
i'm a dork and read alot.
plus my uncle was in the fbi and he gave me a bunch of cool declassified shit.
strucutral charts and notes, really cool stuff
 
Bino said:
i'm a dork and read alot.
plus my uncle was in the fbi and he gave me a bunch of cool declassified shit.
strucutral charts and notes, really cool stuff

wow....cool about the uncle being in the FBI :)

and i read a lot too lol
 
mobsters or orginized crime
line the pockets of LE, FBI and whoever
that is why you don't hear about it
it's all dirty money
 
the_alcatraz said:
KGB?

I thought the Russian mob was weak now :worried:


It's not KGB but russian mafia and they run a ton of stuff right now. Most of the larger bookie's such as sports betting and some mid level poker games are run by them. I know this from personal experience.

These guys are old school break your knees types.
 
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