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Y_lifter
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jestros said:
COOL on the Forum.. what I also needed..
I've always had 4x4 trucks and have been pulled out many a time by Jeeps.
Yea, I won't spend almost $30K for a Rubicon, which would be the most awesome choice in new vehicles.
The Unlimited would be what I was looking at due to it being longer, giving a better / safer ride.
And I don't much care about approach angles, seeing as Fla is pretty flat..
My wife had a Sahara before I met her and loved it. With the longer wheelbase and hard doors and windows on the front they are getting a
bit more comfortable.. She said hers had AC and it stayed pretty cool.
Day to Day driving comfort is my only real concern as it would be a primary vehicle vs: a weekend toy..
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my dad has a 2000 wrangler that i drive occasionally. very fun to drive but you cant hear yourself think going down the road at 65 mph with the rag top on. florida is prolly too warm for the hard top tho. the wrangler also is not very grocery getting friendly either. and it hardly takes up any space in the garage. super fun to drive with a few minor to moderate drawbacks
Forge
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I have a CJ7 and love it, though it's in pieces right now in my garage.
CJ's are great fun but more "truck" like in that they do not drive or handle as well as the newer wranglers. The new TJ's are excellent both on and off road, but I like my no-carpet hose-me-down when I'm dirty CJ too much to give it up.
Pros:
- fun to drive
- easy to park
- great off road or in snow
- doors come off
Cons:
- soft tops can be noisy on the highway (TJ's are MUCH better here)
- little cargo room
- CJ's have rust problems, be careful when buying
CJ's are great fun but more "truck" like in that they do not drive or handle as well as the newer wranglers. The new TJ's are excellent both on and off road, but I like my no-carpet hose-me-down when I'm dirty CJ too much to give it up.
Pros:
- fun to drive
- easy to park
- great off road or in snow
- doors come off
Cons:
- soft tops can be noisy on the highway (TJ's are MUCH better here)
- little cargo room
- CJ's have rust problems, be careful when buying
Y_lifter
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Yea, the road noise with the soft top is a concern, but most of my driving in in town.
Hard tops are nice but that defeats the purpose of having a jeep unless you
want to take it off all the time and that seems like a pain.
They also are a bit over prices for what you get.
I have yet to figure out the call signs on the models .. TJ, CJ, YJ etc..
Hard tops are nice but that defeats the purpose of having a jeep unless you
want to take it off all the time and that seems like a pain.
They also are a bit over prices for what you get.
I have yet to figure out the call signs on the models .. TJ, CJ, YJ etc..
jestros
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Like I said I dont know too much about YJ/TJ, but I believe the easy way to tell the difference is TJ's have round headlights.
Here's some more info:
Jeep TJs have solid axles suspended by coil springs at both front and rear. The axles are positioned above the coil springs.
Jeep YJs have solid axles suspended by leaf springs at both front and rear. The axles are positioned above the leaf springs.
Jeep® Wrangler YJ
[ 1987-1995 ]
The Wrangler was launched in 1987, replacing the CJ series, the square front headlights were the only real change (according to some). It was re-designed for comfort with interior and dashboard changes. The Wrangler's safety features started with a 93.4 inch wheelbase lowering the center of balance to the chassis which resulted in limited ground clearance (rear axle 8.14") but provided a safer on-highway ride.
The 2-door and 4-passenger Wrangler was available in three trim levels:
S
SE
Sahara
The Rio Grande package added a Southwestern theme to the base-level S unit. The engine was carburated until the 1990 model. The newer base engine was a 2.5-liter inline 4-cylinder. Later, the optional 4.0-liter inline Six engine was available, with 14:1 ratio Saginaw Power steering. The base transmission is a 5-speed manual. A 3-speed automatic was optional. A 2-speed transfer case and automatic locking hubs were also available throughout the line.
Jeep®-TJ
The Jeep® Wrangler hit the market in the fall of 1996 to be introduced as the 1997 Jeep® TJ. The line up of models was to be the SE, Sport and Sahara soft top models. A hard top with full steel doors, roll-up windows and tinted glass is available on all models. Also optional is a dual-top package that includes both a hard top and soft top in matching colors. The Jeep® Wrangler SE comes equipped with the standard 2.5-liter Power-Tech four-cylinder engine that develops 120 horsepower (87 kW) and 140 lb.-ft. (186 Nm) of torque. Sport and Sahara models are powered by the 4.0-liter Power-Tech six-cylinder engine, delivering 185 hp (130 kW) and 222 lb.-ft. (290 Nm). Both engines are coupled to a five-speed manual transmission as standard. The TJ is equiped with a Dana 30 front axle and Dana 35c in the rear with much credit to the Chrysler Corporation a Dana 44 was a new well deserved option package. A three-speed automatic transmission is optional
Here's some more info:
Jeep TJs have solid axles suspended by coil springs at both front and rear. The axles are positioned above the coil springs.
Jeep YJs have solid axles suspended by leaf springs at both front and rear. The axles are positioned above the leaf springs.
Jeep® Wrangler YJ
[ 1987-1995 ]
The Wrangler was launched in 1987, replacing the CJ series, the square front headlights were the only real change (according to some). It was re-designed for comfort with interior and dashboard changes. The Wrangler's safety features started with a 93.4 inch wheelbase lowering the center of balance to the chassis which resulted in limited ground clearance (rear axle 8.14") but provided a safer on-highway ride.
The 2-door and 4-passenger Wrangler was available in three trim levels:
S
SE
Sahara
The Rio Grande package added a Southwestern theme to the base-level S unit. The engine was carburated until the 1990 model. The newer base engine was a 2.5-liter inline 4-cylinder. Later, the optional 4.0-liter inline Six engine was available, with 14:1 ratio Saginaw Power steering. The base transmission is a 5-speed manual. A 3-speed automatic was optional. A 2-speed transfer case and automatic locking hubs were also available throughout the line.
Jeep®-TJ
The Jeep® Wrangler hit the market in the fall of 1996 to be introduced as the 1997 Jeep® TJ. The line up of models was to be the SE, Sport and Sahara soft top models. A hard top with full steel doors, roll-up windows and tinted glass is available on all models. Also optional is a dual-top package that includes both a hard top and soft top in matching colors. The Jeep® Wrangler SE comes equipped with the standard 2.5-liter Power-Tech four-cylinder engine that develops 120 horsepower (87 kW) and 140 lb.-ft. (186 Nm) of torque. Sport and Sahara models are powered by the 4.0-liter Power-Tech six-cylinder engine, delivering 185 hp (130 kW) and 222 lb.-ft. (290 Nm). Both engines are coupled to a five-speed manual transmission as standard. The TJ is equiped with a Dana 30 front axle and Dana 35c in the rear with much credit to the Chrysler Corporation a Dana 44 was a new well deserved option package. A three-speed automatic transmission is optional
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Spartacus
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you can park em' anywhere
I have a '99 wrangler 4L 5sp
bought a soft top and have the hard top in the garage
located in alabama as I am,I'll probably sell the hard top
the hard top are popular with the hunting set for obvious reasons
14mpg hmy
12.5 city
upside to the mpg is it doesn't matter how you drive,it's the same
well except for "high speed" highway
I have a car for longer trips,but one time while the car was in the shop I took the Jeep on the 3 hour beach run
was running ~85,got 10mpg
I have a '99 wrangler 4L 5sp
bought a soft top and have the hard top in the garage
located in alabama as I am,I'll probably sell the hard top
the hard top are popular with the hunting set for obvious reasons
14mpg hmy
12.5 city
upside to the mpg is it doesn't matter how you drive,it's the same
well except for "high speed" highway
I have a car for longer trips,but one time while the car was in the shop I took the Jeep on the 3 hour beach run
was running ~85,got 10mpg
hey i have 2 jeeps, a 1948 cj 3a and a 92 wrangler which is my daily driver.
road noise sucks, there isnt a way to adequately seal the ventilation system, ususally water leaks through, even if the top is sealed good.
pros: will go most anywhere, fun as hell, can make some serious money yanking people out of jams.
road noise sucks, there isnt a way to adequately seal the ventilation system, ususally water leaks through, even if the top is sealed good.
pros: will go most anywhere, fun as hell, can make some serious money yanking people out of jams.
Y_lifter
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Thanks for the comments..
I'm concerned that in the Fla Summer thunderstorms, the soft top would leak sitting outside, but having a hard top only defeats the best part of having a jeep and that is riding with the top/doors off..
I hear the New TJ's have better soft top seals and also the soft top will fit inside of the hardtop so you could get a garage hoist for the hardtop and be ready to go in 5 min..
I've had 4x4 pickups and want that GO ANYWHERE ability that even a good truck lack.. Especially approach/exit angles on hills..
Maybe when I can get a jeep as a second vehicle it would make more sense..
I'm concerned that in the Fla Summer thunderstorms, the soft top would leak sitting outside, but having a hard top only defeats the best part of having a jeep and that is riding with the top/doors off..
I hear the New TJ's have better soft top seals and also the soft top will fit inside of the hardtop so you could get a garage hoist for the hardtop and be ready to go in 5 min..
I've had 4x4 pickups and want that GO ANYWHERE ability that even a good truck lack.. Especially approach/exit angles on hills..
Maybe when I can get a jeep as a second vehicle it would make more sense..
onerepmaximum
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I have a 99 TJ. The tops don't leak, unless they are ripped or have holes. I would probably recomend getting one with solid doors because the half doors can be a pain. All doors come off anyway so you can still do it like that. They are a bit small which would make it better to have as a second vehicle. I'm selling mine in the next few weeks as I'll be moving to Japan the end of january. Oh one more recomendation, get a stick (manual transmission) if you plan to do much offroading or pulling a jet ski or something.
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Megalomaniac
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4everhung said:
I try to always have a jeep, specially in the south. Right now I have a 02 wrangler bumped up 4". You are right though about the gas, terrible. If Y_lifter is looking for an everyday drive that's really the only problem. I keep my hard top on in the cold and transition to doorless, then soft-top, and then summer! If you are going to buy used look into picking one up with both, it is really easy to change up and fit the weather.
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