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Dedication777
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What kinda cycle you guys thinks there on lol.
Jay vs ronni ???
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Jay cutler/ ronni Colman
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All In a Year
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Prob tonnnns of test and Tren... But who knows really..
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TakedaShingen
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I remember reading this a while back. I personally have not run a cycle (well I'm on Forma and Transaderm right now, I guess that counts), so what do I know? I came across this while researching how to get bigger and how to push my limits. This sounds like a LOT of gear to me, but these guys are behemoths, so who the fuck knows? I take all this in stride, and whether it's true or bs, it's still a fun read.
***The following are the exact dosages of an offseason blast of a current top pro. Hope this puts in perspective the BS pro cycles that get posted every now and then.***
Weeks 1-12
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100mg injectable dbol ed (first 8 weeks)
100mg TNE ed
500mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
200mg test prop ed
200mg NPP ed
25iu humalog before meals and before training
20iu gh injected iv immediately post workout 3x per week, 10iu gh injected IM 2x per week (other 2 training days), 10iu split dose into 5am 5 mid day injected subq on off days
Weeks 13-24
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100mg TNE ed
750mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
300mg test prop ed
200mg tren ace ed
25iu humalog before meals, 35iu before training
30iu gh injected iv post workout on all training days, 15iu subq on off days split dose 5am/5 mid day/5 evening
Weeks 25-34
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200mg injectable anadrol ed
150mg TNE ed
1,000mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
400mg test prop ed
25iu humalog before meals, 40iu before training
35iu injected iv everyday in one shot
***The following are the exact dosages of an offseason blast of a current top pro. Hope this puts in perspective the BS pro cycles that get posted every now and then.***
Weeks 1-12
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100mg injectable dbol ed (first 8 weeks)
100mg TNE ed
500mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
200mg test prop ed
200mg NPP ed
25iu humalog before meals and before training
20iu gh injected iv immediately post workout 3x per week, 10iu gh injected IM 2x per week (other 2 training days), 10iu split dose into 5am 5 mid day injected subq on off days
Weeks 13-24
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100mg TNE ed
750mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
300mg test prop ed
200mg tren ace ed
25iu humalog before meals, 35iu before training
30iu gh injected iv post workout on all training days, 15iu subq on off days split dose 5am/5 mid day/5 evening
Weeks 25-34
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200mg injectable anadrol ed
150mg TNE ed
1,000mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
400mg test prop ed
25iu humalog before meals, 40iu before training
35iu injected iv everyday in one shot
TakedaShingen
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Right? But a good read lol.
Dedication777
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Jesus!
That's some Juice right there.. No wonder the are walking hulks.. Big ass mother fuckers
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stantonz71
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Just for shits n giggles... I'd like to see there blood work.
Wtf would anyone shoot test cyp every other day? I feel like that's a bogus cycle but like you said, who knows? I read a cycle before in that steroid guide that everyone's seen before. They were big dosages but it didn't look like that one. Too many long esters injected too frequently to be right IMHO.
^^^ 5K a month in food, 5K a month in supplements.. not gonna get into how much their juice cost as that is against the rules but everyone can figure out its a lot.
i'm sure their endorsements cover their cost for everything and then some. this is big business so they get paid big bucks for putting their name or face on whatever bs supplement and getting a nice check in the mail every month
i'm sure their endorsements cover their cost for everything and then some. this is big business so they get paid big bucks for putting their name or face on whatever bs supplement and getting a nice check in the mail every month
I wasn't aware you could inject gh intravenously or IM. Is that true?
i will guess because of the dosages.. if you injected 3.5grams of test twice a week that would take a huge syringe and multiple injections. injecting 1000 EOD is much easier to do if you think about it.
*sigh* {day dreaming of being sponsored and having my juice and food paid for}
marry a rich chick or a sugar mama.. be her slave for life.. only thing you are required is her provide you juice and 90 minutes a day to workout. you will be set
But test cypionate (14-16 day Active life) at 1 gram eod? Plus all the other roids including test prop ed. You would have like 7 grams of test in you by the end of week one alone. Am I missing something? Then again maybe you're right on that. My math sucks anyway.
marry a rich chick or a sugar mama.. be her slave for life.. only thing you are required is her provide you juice and 90 minutes a day to workout. you will be set
Lmao! I've been looking for one for some time now
you read my mind!
yeah thats why i said i'm surprised the dude is even alive. i don't believe these crazy dosages. maybe those guys have such blown receptors that their bodies don't even react to what we consider huge dosages
Ya burnt out receptors perhaps. But fuck if it's true the fucking juice bill, hoooly shit! And I dunno about anyone else by when I'm on cycle my stress levels are through the roof. I can't imagine what that feels like. I bet they puff the magic dragon to keep chill and help with munchies... As if they needed help with that lol.
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ALIN
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We could sit here and guess and speculate all day long.
Only them and the folks close to them know the truth
Dedication777
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Yeah thats ridiculous. Talk about thousands of dollars spent on food/juice/sups.
Probably have their own cook, spotter, fucking personal everything lol
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Probably have their own cook, spotter, fucking personal everything lol
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TakedaShingen
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We could sit here and guess and speculate all day long.
Only them and the folks close to them know the truth
This^^
And none of em ain't sayin sh_t!!!
Dedication777
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Yeah it would be nice to hear one of them say it lol.
Or tell us specifically what they are on
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All In a Year
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Lol yeah... That's how they got massive.... From muscletech and Bsn products. Lol.
John McLane
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Why do you get so stressed when you are on?
John McLane
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What is TNE?
testosterone with no ester, very similar or the same as suspension. its probably what pro athletes use to cheat their PED tests
its just a preworkout type thing to make ur workouts more intense. I have no use for it myself my workouts are already intense and i don't feel like injecting atleast ED and running regular test as a base already
badboybounce
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All bollox all pro body builders are ex farmers already big from throwing cows n tractors about fields then they simply add tons of eggs milk n cheese and 356 weetabix a day sprinkled with 0.7 gram creatine
badboybounce
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By the way the weetabix is ed not eod these guys are hardcore
Trevorisking
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Hahaha
Matthersby
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I think we would all be surprised at how little alot of these pros use in a given month or year.
From realistic speculation that I've heard/read:
1 gram pharm test a week
5-10 iu pharm HGH ed
5-10 iu insulin ed
+ 10 years training with no skipped workouts, no overtraining, no slacking, ridiculous discipline in every area, especially diet.
+ genetics that not only respond to training better than anyone we know, but a response to anabolics that surpasses most that have even attempted using p.e.d.'s.
From realistic speculation that I've heard/read:
1 gram pharm test a week
5-10 iu pharm HGH ed
5-10 iu insulin ed
+ 10 years training with no skipped workouts, no overtraining, no slacking, ridiculous discipline in every area, especially diet.
+ genetics that not only respond to training better than anyone we know, but a response to anabolics that surpasses most that have even attempted using p.e.d.'s.
^^^ yup.
and throw in the best trainers/friends that push them and the best facilities.
basically spending 24/7 doing this, its their jobs. until anyone on this forum can say their actual job is bodybuilding 24/7 no one will ever look like them period. and thats OKAY!! i love being a gym rat, nothing wrong with it!
and throw in the best trainers/friends that push them and the best facilities.
basically spending 24/7 doing this, its their jobs. until anyone on this forum can say their actual job is bodybuilding 24/7 no one will ever look like them period. and thats OKAY!! i love being a gym rat, nothing wrong with it!
Matthersby
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^ yup.. I just took 12 days off for knee surgery(miniscus tear). And besides eating vicodin, my only job has been to eat, sleep, and train my upper body. Gains have rivaled the previous month's gains(where I worked 50 hours a week and was expected to participate in all daily activities and relationships) and I'm only 7 days into my vacation/sick leave. Having no job + limitted reponsibilities and stress= I believe one can reach genetic potential without any aas.
I have a large bro who is trained by his friend who happens to be a pro so I get a lot of the info. I notice that most pros do like to mix long and short esters and change up ester types every 6-8 weeks or so. Why? I dunno. I know that some pros are more "sane" than others. But I guess sane is a relative term. Some pros also have that genetic awsomeness that lets them use and respond to 1/3 the gear that a normal human would grow on. So throw a gram of test, 700mg Tren ace, 100mg var ed ect into somone who responds 200-300% better than 99% of us and they are going to be freaks. Not to mention Hgh and slin.
GetBig1213
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Guy I used to work with was friends w a couple pros. Lifted with them quite frequently, all their cycles varied. One thing thy didnt change was their 8-10k on "supps" a month.
Either way I can honestly say, put me on all that and I won't come close to them still. Majority of us wouldn't. I'll never take away credit they deserve for the work they put in. They truly made it their lifestyle year round 24hrs/day.
Either way I can honestly say, put me on all that and I won't come close to them still. Majority of us wouldn't. I'll never take away credit they deserve for the work they put in. They truly made it their lifestyle year round 24hrs/day.
cloud_of_chalk
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come on guys, ronnie, jay all are natural !o-0 i have personally asked ronnie what he takes, he said BSN supplements ,NOT, i have met him personally though!!
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UA_Iron
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Top level pros dont get away with low doses. They just dont.
Dedication777
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I'll be that big one day, as soon as I find a sugar moma lol
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blue_steel74
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Honestly guys, you have 2 different scenarios when it comes to pros. Scenario 1, are the guys who train right, eat right, and get enough rest. These guys dont take half as much as people think bc they simply dont HAVE to. They actually put in the work where its supposed to be put in, and thats at the dinner table and in the gym and resting.
Then you have scenario 2, which is the guys who take retarded-ass amounts of gear because these guys are too lazy to work for it. Usually these are the guys who you hear about having alot of organ issues and they end up very sick or just get burned out on bodybuilding. Dorian never took over 750mg of test in his off season, and look how his physique was. But he also worked harder than anyone else in the gym.
Im not saying that most pros dont take alot of gear, but as far as ppl saying its 3-5 grams of test, 200mg of dbol , 25 iu slin and all that shit, i dont buy into that. It might be alot, but its not THAT much. But im sure some do take it to an unhealthy extreme and those are the guys who dont live much past 40.
I actually know of a top pros cycle, but i wont disclose that info bc i was sworn to keep my mouth shut about it. But i will tell you guys that its not near as much as youd think
Then you have scenario 2, which is the guys who take retarded-ass amounts of gear because these guys are too lazy to work for it. Usually these are the guys who you hear about having alot of organ issues and they end up very sick or just get burned out on bodybuilding. Dorian never took over 750mg of test in his off season, and look how his physique was. But he also worked harder than anyone else in the gym.
Im not saying that most pros dont take alot of gear, but as far as ppl saying its 3-5 grams of test, 200mg of dbol , 25 iu slin and all that shit, i dont buy into that. It might be alot, but its not THAT much. But im sure some do take it to an unhealthy extreme and those are the guys who dont live much past 40.
I actually know of a top pros cycle, but i wont disclose that info bc i was sworn to keep my mouth shut about it. But i will tell you guys that its not near as much as youd think
TheRippedReverend
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Do you think they still have a ball sack?
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UA_Iron
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I'm lol'ing bro.
A pro would never tell you what he really does anyway. They're all walking pharmacies.
Cheat to win.
blue_steel74
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Well youre entitled to your opinion, but i know what i know. Not tryin to be rude but i dont care if you believe me or not or if you laugh. Its a free country, so its just whatever
I remember youtubing a video of ruhl and cutler shopping its awesome
Cali72
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Couldn't agree more!!!!!!
No human can get that massive with conservative doses of anabolics regardless of work ethic and superior genetics.
I didn't read the entire post but questions like these are so irrelevant.
Two things...
One: those guys are on A LOT.
And two: you can do TWICE as much and you won't look HALF as muscular.
That kind of muscularity is a combination of amazing genetics and amazing response to steroids.
So, in other words...what's the difference what they're on?
Two things...
One: those guys are on A LOT.
And two: you can do TWICE as much and you won't look HALF as muscular.
That kind of muscularity is a combination of amazing genetics and amazing response to steroids.
So, in other words...what's the difference what they're on?
thelastmrbigg15
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750mg of test is a conservative dose? (cali) i agree with Steel eat like a horse, train like an animal, and sleep like a baby
thelastmrbigg15
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i'm sure they're on a serious stak but dosage isn't out of this world... all bodybuilders started out small... saying they become what they are over night or even within 5 years is an insult most of those guys have been at the top level for over a DECADE! most of the non believers havn't even been training a decade let alone at the Mr.O level for that long
mr.enthate
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Phill heaths only been in the game 6 years ish ...
Cali72
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What's your point???
Every other gym rat is on 750mg/week of test and the rest
So let's be realistic here man pros are on shit loads of aas.
ppgfreak
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Yep, I agree. 750mg is not considered high, imo. I'm at 600mg and I'm definitely taking less than most of my friends.
My body building friend is taking 1,400mg. He's running a high amount of tren with it, don't remember the number. Plus 9months a year of HGH. Takes three months off.
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But this can be misconstrued. People think in order to get REALLY big gains they need to up dosages, because, after all, the pros do 5 grams! And that's bullshit.
They're not pros because they do big dosages. They do big dosages because they're already 260, with 5% bf. They need to take ridiculous amounts to get bigger. It has nothing to do with what anyone here is doing. If someone is going to tell me, they're 290 and 4% bf and they're entering a pro show...then we can talk about this shit. Otherwise, it;'s pointless.
holy crap
Cali72
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I totally agree that it's pointless but how did these dudes get to 260 at 5% bf??
Yes superior genetics they have and do respond extremely well to aas but they didn't get there from using moderate dosages.
John McLane
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Exactly....what are these guys doing that is making them bigger than the bodybuilders of the 80's and early 90's
Large doses of insulin combined with large doses of HGH. Both are amazing on their own when you combine them with AAS but when you combine all 3 with superior genetics and an expensive diet.... you get a 260 lb 4% bf body builder. (whos likely 5'8")
Goat23
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^^^ with the name jay cutler lol but really what are we doing here??trying to find out what they take so we can? 99 per cent of the guys will never be like that!we are who we are and be happy withgains your steadily making as long as your damn near death after working out,on some form of aas,eating,sleeping and supping,be damn proud of what YOUR doing!
plus44racer182
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Not to mention the art of perfecting site enhancement oils mixed in with the gear.
I am just astounded at Phil heath's fucking arms and the fact that he doesn't look so ungodly unhealthy like so many other bodybuilders. Shows you how genetics play in the game of bodybuilding. I ran only 350mg ew of test and people though I was juicing my face off due to my gains.
not sure why some of you are getting defensive in this thread? are any of you planning on competing in Mr Olympia anytime soon? Jay Cutler is 5 9 on a good day (anyone who saw him in person would think he was more like 5 7 but whatever) and weighs 274 pounds and 300 offseason with a very small amount of body fat. no one on this site has those kinds of stats, not even close.
so why are we argueing? 99% of us are just gym rats and there is nothing wrong with that, a few of us compete in shows around the country, so be proud of who you are and keep killing it. no reason to bite each others heads off in a totally speculative thread like this.
so why are we argueing? 99% of us are just gym rats and there is nothing wrong with that, a few of us compete in shows around the country, so be proud of who you are and keep killing it. no reason to bite each others heads off in a totally speculative thread like this.
^^^ Yes....no whining....christ. Even thought this thread is pointless and stupid speculation its still interesting to ponder every now and then.
There was one cat here who is now banned. Used to have alot of disagreements with a couple mods who are no longer mods. He hasnt come back since. Which is too bad cause I miss the guy and his knowledge. I know alot of us miss him. (some not so much)
He was ready for the IFBB stage. But because of the current state of politics in BB'ing was basically told there was no place at the super high level for a 5'5" guy. Basically a real short guy coming out and laying waste to most of the bigger guys. This dude was fucking enormous. 5'5" 280 lb. When he dieted down to low single digit bf% he was 235 (at 5'5"!!)
He was a real true monster. 8,000 cals a day off season, life consumed by eating and training. Eventually he had to call it quits because the sheer amount of food and gear were putting a major strain on his internal organs. (doctor visits once a week to monitor everything)
There was one cat here who is now banned. Used to have alot of disagreements with a couple mods who are no longer mods. He hasnt come back since. Which is too bad cause I miss the guy and his knowledge. I know alot of us miss him. (some not so much)
He was ready for the IFBB stage. But because of the current state of politics in BB'ing was basically told there was no place at the super high level for a 5'5" guy. Basically a real short guy coming out and laying waste to most of the bigger guys. This dude was fucking enormous. 5'5" 280 lb. When he dieted down to low single digit bf% he was 235 (at 5'5"!!)
He was a real true monster. 8,000 cals a day off season, life consumed by eating and training. Eventually he had to call it quits because the sheer amount of food and gear were putting a major strain on his internal organs. (doctor visits once a week to monitor everything)
I think I know who you are talking about. I always wondered if he ever made it in the pros. Too bad, he could have been the next generation of "giant killers" on stage.
Nope he didnt. Health problems started before he got a chance. He would have been great.
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