Jay cutler/ ronni Colman

[ppgfreak]

What's your point???
Every other gym rat is on 750mg/week of test and the rest
So let's be realistic here man pros are on shit loads of aas.

Yep, I agree. 750mg is not considered high, imo. I'm at 600mg and I'm definitely taking less than most of my friends.

My body building friend is taking 1,400mg. He's running a high amount of tren with it, don't remember the number. Plus 9months a year of HGH. Takes three months off.

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[Nelson Montana]

What's your point???
Every other gym rat is on 750mg/week of test and the rest
So let's be realistic here man pros are on shit loads of aas.

But this can be misconstrued. People think in order to get REALLY big gains they need to up dosages, because, after all, the pros do 5 grams! And that's bullshit.

They're not pros because they do big dosages. They do big dosages because they're already 260, with 5% bf. They need to take ridiculous amounts to get bigger. It has nothing to do with what anyone here is doing. If someone is going to tell me, they're 290 and 4% bf and they're entering a pro show...then we can talk about this shit. Otherwise, it;'s pointless.

 

[koin]

i remember reading this a while back. I personally have not run a cycle (well i'm on forma and transaderm right now, i guess that counts), so what do i know? I came across this while researching how to get bigger and how to push my limits. This sounds like a lot of gear to me, but these guys are behemoths, so who the fuck knows? I take all this in stride, and whether it's true or bs, it's still a fun read.


***the following are the exact dosages of an offseason blast of a current top pro. Hope this puts in perspective the bs pro cycles that get posted every now and then.***

weeks 1-12
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100mg injectable dbol ed (first 8 weeks)
100mg tne ed
500mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
200mg test prop ed
200mg npp ed
25iu humalog before meals and before training
20iu gh injected iv immediately post workout 3x per week, 10iu gh injected im 2x per week (other 2 training days), 10iu split dose into 5am 5 mid day injected subq on off days

weeks 13-24
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100mg tne ed
750mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
300mg test prop ed
200mg tren ace ed
25iu humalog before meals, 35iu before training
30iu gh injected iv post workout on all training days, 15iu subq on off days split dose 5am/5 mid day/5 evening

weeks 25-34
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200mg injectable anadrol ed
150mg tne ed
1,000mg test cyp eod
600mg equipoise eod
400mg test prop ed
25iu humalog before meals, 40iu before training
35iu injected iv everyday in one shot

holy crap

 

[Cali72]

But this can be misconstrued. People think in order to get REALLY big gains they need to up dosages, because, after all, the pros do 5 grams! And that's bullshit.

They're not pros because they do big dosages. They do big dosages because they're already 260, with 5% bf. They need to take ridiculous amounts to get bigger. It has nothing to do with what anyone here is doing. If someone is going to tell me, they're 290 and 4% bf and they're entering a pro show...then we can talk about this shit. Otherwise, it;'s pointless.

I totally agree that it's pointless but how did these dudes get to 260 at 5% bf??
Yes superior genetics they have and do respond extremely well to aas but they didn't get there from using moderate dosages.

 

[John McLane]

I totally agree that it's pointless but how did these dudes get to 260 at 5% bf??
Yes superior genetics they have and do respond extremely well to aas but they didn't get there from using moderate dosages.

Exactly....what are these guys doing that is making them bigger than the bodybuilders of the 80's and early 90's

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Exactly....what are these guys doing that is making them bigger than the bodybuilders of the 80's and early 90's

Large doses of insulin combined with large doses of HGH. Both are amazing on their own when you combine them with AAS but when you combine all 3 with superior genetics and an expensive diet.... you get a 260 lb 4% bf body builder. (whos likely 5'8")

 

[Goat23]

^^^ with the name jay cutler lol but really what are we doing here??trying to find out what they take so we can? 99 per cent of the guys will never be like that!we are who we are and be happy withgains your steadily making as long as your damn near death after working out,on some form of aas,eating,sleeping and supping,be damn proud of what YOUR doing!

 

[plus44racer182]

Exactly....what are these guys doing that is making them bigger than the bodybuilders of the 80's and early 90's

Not to mention the art of perfecting site enhancement oils mixed in with the gear.



I am just astounded at Phil heath's fucking arms and the fact that he doesn't look so ungodly unhealthy like so many other bodybuilders. Shows you how genetics play in the game of bodybuilding. I ran only 350mg ew of test and people though I was juicing my face off due to my gains.

 

[stevesmi]

not sure why some of you are getting defensive in this thread? are any of you planning on competing in Mr Olympia anytime soon? Jay Cutler is 5 9 on a good day (anyone who saw him in person would think he was more like 5 7 but whatever) and weighs 274 pounds and 300 offseason with a very small amount of body fat. no one on this site has those kinds of stats, not even close.

so why are we argueing? 99% of us are just gym rats and there is nothing wrong with that, a few of us compete in shows around the country, so be proud of who you are and keep killing it. no reason to bite each others heads off in a totally speculative thread like this.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

^^^ Yes....no whining....christ. Even thought this thread is pointless and stupid speculation its still interesting to ponder every now and then.


There was one cat here who is now banned. Used to have alot of disagreements with a couple mods who are no longer mods. He hasnt come back since. Which is too bad cause I miss the guy and his knowledge. I know alot of us miss him. (some not so much)
He was ready for the IFBB stage. But because of the current state of politics in BB'ing was basically told there was no place at the super high level for a 5'5" guy. Basically a real short guy coming out and laying waste to most of the bigger guys. This dude was fucking enormous. 5'5" 280 lb. When he dieted down to low single digit bf% he was 235 (at 5'5"!!)
He was a real true monster. 8,000 cals a day off season, life consumed by eating and training. Eventually he had to call it quits because the sheer amount of food and gear were putting a major strain on his internal organs. (doctor visits once a week to monitor everything)