javaguru

[javaguru]

ster·oid (stîroid, str-)
n.

Any of numerous naturally occurring or synthetic fat-soluble organic compounds having as a basis 17 carbon atoms arranged in four rings and including the sterols and bile acids, adrenal and sex hormones, certain natural drugs such as digitalis compounds, and the precursors of certain vitamins.

1. 4-ad IS a steroid and a pro-hormone. Likewise, testosterone is also a pro-hormone since it converts to DHT.

2. I was up 4.5 lbs in seven days on the 4-ad-ec. I was up 5 lbs in the first week on my last test/tren cycle. Don't presume to know how MY body responds.

3. Do a search for injectable 4-ad on animals board or the fina board. I'm the only person on any of these three boards that have done an ester, the others have done no ester solutions(which suck) or suspensions.

 

[MIKERAZ]

So why do no ester solutions suck yet water suspensions are good??? people get great results off of test no ester in oil so they would also on 4ad in your logic? animals board i never read anyoen claim weight gain only increased strength , what type of ester ya goto n there prop?

 

[javaguru]

sus·pen·sion (s-spnshn)
n.
Chemistry. A system in which microscopically visible particles are dispersed throughout a less dense liquid or gas from which they are easily filtered but not easily settled because of system viscocity or molecular interactions.

solution
So*lu"tion\ (s[-o]*l[=u]"sh[u^]n), n.
(Chem.Phys.) The act or process by which a body (whether solid, liquid, or gaseous) is absorbed into a liquid, and, remaining or becoming fluid, is diffused throughout the solvent; also, the product reulting from such absorption.

A suspension isn't that good either(IMO) but much better than a solution of 4-ad no ester in oil. With a suspension you get an initial spike, a steady short term release and then a very dramatic drop off. This is due to the human body breaking down the crystals and the process accelerates rapidly after a certain point is reached. Also, water suspensions are notorious for causing injection pain. A 4-ad no ester solution sucks because the half life is only being extended by the oil( the crystals are dissolved in the oil). With an ester solution you get a steady release of the drug which gives more stable blood levels with appropriate dosing. Concentrations can also be higher due to increased solubility from the ester.

I'm using the ethylcarbonate ester. BTW, Animal prefers his 4-ad suspension to testosterone no ester.

 

[MIKERAZ]

that makes no sense many people gain well off test no ester in oil according to you they wouldnt? also have you heard any other good gaisn on 4ad suspension

 

[MIKERAZ]

animal also says ANYTHIGN IN OIL has the same half life as a prop molecule

 

[javaguru]

You're confusing suspensions and solutions again. Animal was referring to suspensions in oil, EOD injections with suspensions are common. Animal's seperation kit creates a TNE suspension in oil, not a TNE oil solution. I'll PM you with the bill for your tuition....

 

[MIKERAZ]

wateva doesnt matter 4ad still sucks and still have not heard any great weight results and it wont help someoen reach there weight goals period.

 

[MIKERAZ]

so how come u chose the ester over animals oil suspension

 

[cockdezl]

animal also says ANYTHIGN IN OIL has the same half life as a prop molecule

Who gives a fuck what Animal says?...he can't even spell "pharmacokinetics".

Ask the dumbfuck to show us the research that shows that testosterone dissolved in oil has the same pharmacokinetics as testosterone propionate. He uses the concept of "feel" to make his retarded statements.

 

[MIKERAZ]

results speak and everyone gains off tne like they do off prop and i still dont believe in 4ad