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winny is a good multipurpose drug. however, it is mostly used for cutting.
why do you say PH's are a bunch of shit? have you tried them? also, how could you suggest a newbie (to juice) to 4 garms of test?! some pros dont even do 4 grams. not only is this insane, but also a waste of money. for a newbie, 500mg of test a week would be suffiecient and would produce tremendous gains! test at ver 2 grams is a waste since almost all AR receptors would be satuarted. also, higher dosages of test doesnt mean you will get a helluva lot more gains. if you do 2g a weeks doesnt mean you would double your gains compared to 1g a week.
and by the way, 4AD is good, so is 1AD, Boldione, and 3-alpha.
Ross
why do you say PH's are a bunch of shit? have you tried them? also, how could you suggest a newbie (to juice) to 4 garms of test?! some pros dont even do 4 grams. not only is this insane, but also a waste of money. for a newbie, 500mg of test a week would be suffiecient and would produce tremendous gains! test at ver 2 grams is a waste since almost all AR receptors would be satuarted. also, higher dosages of test doesnt mean you will get a helluva lot more gains. if you do 2g a weeks doesnt mean you would double your gains compared to 1g a week.
and by the way, 4AD is good, so is 1AD, Boldione, and 3-alpha.
Ross
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Enock,
Yep, I'm doing 4-ad-ec alone at 100mg/day. There is no noticeable water retention. However, I can do high dose test and have no problems with water retention so it may be different for you. On a side note, every transdermal I have used HAS given me mild water retention(androsol, androspray and one+).
Yep, I'm doing 4-ad-ec alone at 100mg/day. There is no noticeable water retention. However, I can do high dose test and have no problems with water retention so it may be different for you. On a side note, every transdermal I have used HAS given me mild water retention(androsol, androspray and one+).
listen i dont care this 4ad wont work its not a steroid period you wont make any gains. no pro's use 4ad they use real steroids that produce mass gains such as deca,winstrol,primo etc. 4ad has no anabolic activity even PA says so. the gains you experiance are all glycogen period no ifs and or butts. You wont get big on 4ad its garbage.
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so to gain i have to use steroids? hmmmmm.
Mikeratz listen to people who've been injecting 4ad. Javaguru is not the only one doing it they are all experiencing similar results. Also most of the people doing injections have also done the real deal as well they know what they are comparing it too.
I myself often run tren. yet here I am looking into 4ad why is that?
because PH's are actually decent nowa days and dirt cheap when bought in bulk powder form. Its not a question of whether 4ad is better than straight test we know its not. Its a cost effect ratio. If I get 50% of the effects of test at 25% the cost well then I'm a happy camper.
I myself often run tren. yet here I am looking into 4ad why is that?
because PH's are actually decent nowa days and dirt cheap when bought in bulk powder form. Its not a question of whether 4ad is better than straight test we know its not. Its a cost effect ratio. If I get 50% of the effects of test at 25% the cost well then I'm a happy camper.
Enock said:
Just to add to that most steroid users yes do gain in the 15-25 range in bodymass but your forgetting something they normally stack 3 diffrent compounds. go to the anabolic board look at the average cycle which is mostly test/deca.dbol or test/tren dbol etc . there takign 3 diffrent steroids thats why there gainign 20+, sounds to me like 4ad is performing like anabolic steroid
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