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Listen you can take 4 grams a week of that garbage and you wont grow. compare that to 4 grams a week on test and youll look like chris cormier
 
1. Why would par or pa pay me to talk about an injectable 4-ad, something they have no financial interest in promoting. The 4-ad I got was made in China, maybe it's a Chinese conspiracy?

2. I make more money in my current profession than I ever would peddling supplements or "kits". I share my results and experience to help others.

3. My last cycle was 500mg test/wk and 75mg TA ED. I gained ten pounds in two weeks. Have you ever used primo? You would be lucky to be up five pounds in a month on it. Did you know that 4-ad is 95% as anabolic as testosterone?

4. Post that comment about four grams of test and looking like Chris Cormier on the anabolic board and see how many times you get flamed. I know you got flamed at least a dozen times for the three gram comment and looking like a pro.
 
First off you proved my point you grow off low dose of test . 500 mg is nothing. and ive read many posts where peopel gain 10lbs on test after 1 week.
That 95 thing is bullshit made by the supp company's.
And for someone who bashes animal you sure do enjoy his kits
 
1. The 95% for 4-ad comes from the scientific literature. From rat levator studies conducted by scientists not connected with any supplement company.

2. Read my post again, 500mg of test per week plus 75mg TA ED. For the mathematically challenged that's 1,025mg of steroids per week, hardly a low dose.

3. Well, I've heard guys say it took them 3-4 weeks to gain ten pounds on a gram of test per week. I'm also sure it's possible to gain ten pounds on test in a week but it's mostly bloat and glycogen storage. I've done a gram of test per week without anti-estrogens and had no bloat or estrogen side effects, I generally only lose 2-4 pounds max after a test cycle. A newbie will gain more than an experienced user past their genetic potential. Comparing what a newbie or test side effect sensitive user will gain compared to me is comparing apples and oranges.

4. How did I bash Animal? He has said that he prefers his 4-ad suspension to TNE and raves about it. If you're refering to my comment about kits in general then that wasn't a bash against Animal or any kit maker. Some people need someone to walk them through the procedure and they provide a valuable service for these people. However, I think fina kits are a waste of money for anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry/ chemistry procedures. I can PM you if you would like a cheap and effective way to convert your fina. For the record, I've never used a kit.
 
what are you a scientist or something? all your gains are prolly creatine uptake and glycogen not muscle. how woudl you compare it to other real steroids you've taken?
 
I'm certain that most of my gains from the 4-ad-ec in the first week were from increased glycogen storage, just like my test and tren cycle. That's why I'm running the experiment for at least two weeks to compare what I've gained with what I keep. I think the 4-ad-ec "feels" like testosterone. I have improved sense of well being, increased sex drive, slightly increased strength, slight insomnia and of course rock hard muscles and great pumps. This is exactly how I feel on test. I really don't know hwo it will work out in terms of muscle gain at the end of two weeks vs test but that's the whole point of making myself a guinea pig. Within a week of cessation I would expect all of the gains from increased glycogen to be gone. I gained a total of twelve pounds in two weeks and kept eight off the test/tren (a very popular mass combo) and if I keep 4-5 off the 700mg/week of 4-ad-ec I will consider it a resounding success.
 
My diet isn't much different than normal, I've increased my calories slightly(~500) mostly from carbs. Here is a sample ,

Meal 1: Protein shake( milk isolate) + mixed berries (45 g P, 45 g C,~3-4 g F)

Meal 2: Protein Shake 10 fish oil caps(30g P, 15 G F)

meal 3: Tuna and three slices natural 100% whole wheat bread (43g P, 52g C, 10g F)

Meal 4: Protein Shake and 10 fish oil caps (30g P, 15 g F)

Meal 5: Tuna and Pasta (52g P, 150g C, 12g F)

WORKOUT

Meal 6: Post workout shake (33g P, 80g C, 2g F)

Meal 7: 1 hour post workout, Shake and Bran Cereal (45g P 48g C 5g F)

Meal 8: Tuna + five fish oil capsules (33g P, 10g F)

This is not a bulking diet, when bulking I would add an extra 100-200 g of carbs.
 
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