jackangel

[Lestat]

What's up buddy. I know we've never really seen eye to eye, except for brief moments, but I think deep down we both know we have far more in common with each other than not, especially when compared to the general population of EF.

Anyway, you've mentioned you like to blaze, but that it has gotten in the way of things that were important to you at one time (like working out).

Have you tried using weed as a reinforced to things that are beneficial to you? I will use weed as a motivation to run when I otherwise wouldn't, or lift or diet properly when I'd probably slack. Same with work. I'll tell myself if I hit a milestone at work, or stay until a certain time, I'll reward myself with a bowl, or a new purchase of some fresh green, etc. Have you ever tried a strategy like that?

 

[Lestat]

up for the man himself

 

[jnevin]

Jebus

 

[alien amp pharm]

Come on Jackangel, give into peer pressure

 

[stilleto]

my best ever efriend doesn't let things like herb get in his way.

 

[Lestat]

my best ever efriend doesn't let things like herb get in his way.

apparently it has

 

[Lestat]

my best ever efriend doesn't let things like herb get in his way.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6774050&postcount=77

 

[stilleto]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6774050&postcount=77

edit*
i misunderstood your question to him. carry on.

 

[jackangel]

What's up buddy. I know we've never really seen eye to eye, except for brief moments, but I think deep down we both know we have far more in common with each other than not, especially when compared to the general population of EF.

Anyway, you've mentioned you like to blaze, but that it has gotten in the way of things that were important to you at one time (like working out).

Have you tried using weed as a reinforced to things that are beneficial to you? I will use weed as a motivation to run when I otherwise wouldn't, or lift or diet properly when I'd probably slack. Same with work. I'll tell myself if I hit a milestone at work, or stay until a certain time, I'll reward myself with a bowl, or a new purchase of some fresh green, etc. Have you ever tried a strategy like that?

sounds like it can work, if you work it. but i have lacked discipline for such things in the past. although, yes, if i wanted to go for a run when i came home from work (for example), i would almost certainly do that before blazing.

i really wish i could fit it in, but thus far it's always been a matter of the munchies. i have not been able to stop myself from chowing down like smurfy at a hot dog eating contest. i'm sure i could do it if i kept myself busy with other things, and on the move, etc. this girl i'm going to see later this week also smokes, so maybe i can use spending time with her as a reason to not eat crap.

but i've always been a lazy, depressive, isolated dude by nature, even without weed. when you're sitting on your couch and vegging out, adding weed means only one thing: munchies. it just fits so well.

smoking weed never really hampered the workouts themselves, but primarily my desire to lean out (eating 5000 calories of junk at a sitting is not good for abs? go figure...). of course, when it comes to running, smoking like i do won't help. yes, i've considered vaporizing. i actually have one, but either it's shitty and don't do much (Vapir One by Air-2) or i didn't use it properly.

i hope i don't have to bulk and put on more fat before i can cut and show some less-than-pathetic muscle. i want abs now, fuck-it-all, even though i'm too skinny to look all that good with 'em. but even if i'm not bulking at all and just trying to lean out (harder with a lower metabolism due to loss of muscle), i'm not sure what i need to do to get there. if only it were as simple as starving myself or doing lots of morning cardio.

holy cunts of fire, this is a long post.

 

[H_T_]

another thread containing poor squatters.

 

[alien amp pharm]

once you learn to make dieting foods taste good, the munchies will not effect you.

It may take a little longer to lean out, but it will be a lot easier and more enjoyable.

 

[Frisky]

I believe lessy has a feminine side to him... like really

 

[jackangel]

I believe lessy has a feminine side to him... like really

is that a bad thing?

 

[Frisky]

is that a bad thing?

oh no... not bad at all, we could be roomies, hell... may even borrow a top or two from him.

Im kidding less

I like picking on ya because you take it like a champ.

You and me... wanna do like... dinner or sumtin?

 

[Lestat]

oh no... not bad at all, we could be roomies, hell... may even borrow a top or two from him.

Im kidding less

I like picking on ya because you take it like a champ.

You and me... wanna do like... dinner or sumtin?

hell yeah, lets do dinner sometime!

 

[Frisky]

hell yeah, lets do dinner sometime!

sure to be in that area next winter... You buy I eat... deal?

 

[Lestat]

sounds like it can work, if you work it. but i have lacked discipline for such things in the past. although, yes, if i wanted to go for a run when i came home from work (for example), i would almost certainly do that before blazing.

i really wish i could fit it in, but thus far it's always been a matter of the munchies. i have not been able to stop myself from chowing down like smurfy at a hot dog eating contest. i'm sure i could do it if i kept myself busy with other things, and on the move, etc. this girl i'm going to see later this week also smokes, so maybe i can use spending time with her as a reason to not eat crap.

but i've always been a lazy, depressive, isolated dude by nature, even without weed. when you're sitting on your couch and vegging out, adding weed means only one thing: munchies. it just fits so well.

smoking weed never really hampered the workouts themselves, but primarily my desire to lean out (eating 5000 calories of junk at a sitting is not good for abs? go figure...). of course, when it comes to running, smoking like i do won't help. yes, i've considered vaporizing. i actually have one, but either it's shitty and don't do much (Vapir One by Air-2) or i didn't use it properly.

i hope i don't have to bulk and put on more fat before i can cut and show some less-than-pathetic muscle. i want abs now, fuck-it-all, even though i'm too skinny to look all that good with 'em. but even if i'm not bulking at all and just trying to lean out (harder with a lower metabolism due to loss of muscle), i'm not sure what i need to do to get there. if only it were as simple as starving myself or doing lots of morning cardio.

holy cunts of fire, this is a long post.

As far as the running goes, lets say you have two options when you get home from work.

Run
Run then Blaze
Just Blaze

I tell myself, I will not allow myself to blaze UNLESS I do the run. It would be so much eaiser to just veg out right, but by using something I enjoy as positive reinforcement, I get myself to do things that I might not just do without the extra incentive.

Find some low calories munchi foods man. Here is what get:

Soy sticks
Nuts (pistachios are great because they force you to pace yourself by shelling them)
Low fat/Low carb cereals
Cliff bars
Carrots
Dark Chocolate (not low cal but a little goes a long way for my sweet tooth)
banana and peanut butter


I am sure there is more, check out a health food store.

 

[jackangel]

it's never so simple. you know how the mind plays tricks, the half-assed rationalizations or justifications which make it easier to cheat.

those foods are fine and all, but there's this hunger within me to devour all the good shit i enjoy. healthy snacks are a good compromise, but i don't compromise well. i may have a panty full of all the right foods, but i will still go for the haagen dazs caramel cone ice cream at the local drugstore.

so, ultimately, it's a matter of making a stand at some point and finding a way to stick to it. no excuses, no bullshit. it becomes harder and harder every time i give in...but i'm the kind of guy who won't do it unless he feels an urgency. but then, it is urgent, because life is running out and time moves so damned fast.

 

[Lestat]

it's never so simple. you know how the mind plays tricks, the half-assed rationalizations or justifications which make it easier to cheat.

those foods are fine and all, but there's this hunger within me to devour all the good shit i enjoy. healthy snacks are a good compromise, but i don't compromise well. i may have a panty full of all the right foods, but i will still go for the haagen dazs caramel cone ice cream at the local drugstore.

so, ultimately, it's a matter of making a stand at some point and finding a way to stick to it. no excuses, no bullshit. it becomes harder and harder every time i give in...but i'm the kind of guy who won't do it unless he feels an urgency. but then, it is urgent, because life is running out and time moves so damned fast.

for me, and I know this doesn't work for everyone, but I just set goals and milestones and tie a small piece of my day to day happiness to those.

of course eating total shit makes you feel good in the moment, but I can make it so that my long term goals, or even something as simple as looking at my abs in the mirror, can bring me far more satisfaction than anything I could possibly eat.

 

[jackangel]

agreed. i try to think the same way, and succeed for short stretches at a time. but perhaps the primary difference between you and me in this regard is that you're generally a happy and well-adjusted person. whereas i...am learning. trying. but i often fall back into that "nothing means anything, why bother" pit of despair kind of thing.

other than that, though, shit is great. good times. i'm choking down a bit of rice and some white meat right now. ugh.

i won't fail this time, though. sometimes when i hit a wall, i say fuck it. i'm not progressing, why bother. not this time, though.

 

[perkele]

another thread containing poor squatters.

lol

 

[jackangel]

i squatted last night. 95x6, 105x6, 115x6, 135x6.

so yeah, poor. but below parallel, at least.

i was listening to michael bolton, wham, and yanni through my ipod.

 

[Lestat]

agreed. i try to think the same way, and succeed for short stretches at a time. but perhaps the primary difference between you and me in this regard is that you're generally a happy and well-adjusted person. whereas i...am learning. trying. but i often fall back into that "nothing means anything, why bother" pit of despair kind of thing.

other than that, though, shit is great. good times. i'm choking down a bit of rice and some white meat right now. ugh.

i won't fail this time, though. sometimes when i hit a wall, i say fuck it. i'm not progressing, why bother. not this time, though.

The whole happy vs depressed is just a state of mind man. I get down sometimes, I get anxiety, I feel like life isn't worth living.

I can generally ward off those feelings, or when they hit, I can deal with them quickly by reminding myself of the positive and good things in life.

There is generally a lot of good and bad shit in everyone's life. Its up to you which you choose to bring to the forefront of your consciousness. The bad shit will always be there, but don't let it take precedence unless it serves some sort of constructive purpose.

Every minute you spend depressed is one that you are not spending happy.

 

[patsfan1379]

i squatted last night. 95x6, 105x6, 115x6, 135x6.

so yeah, poor. but below parallel, at least.

i was listening to michael bolton, wham, and yanni through my ipod.

Your wit would be useless in a post-nuclear Marshall Law type world.

 

[jackangel]

Your wit would be useless in a post-nuclear Marshall Law type world.

wit is never useless, my friend. but e'en so, my gun would come in most handy. the one that i would surely procure in such an event, that is.

besides, i've seen cyborg. twice. this is back when van damme wasn't a complete joke. that has to count for something.

 

[Frisky]

lol @ jacks 135x6

dude.....


DUDE.....


can you count?

 

[patsfan1379]

wit is never useless, my friend. but e'en so, my gun would come in most handy. the one that i would surely procure in such an event, that is.

besides, i've seen cyborg. twice. this is back when van damme wasn't a complete joke. that has to count for something.

Welcome.

 

[jackangel]

lol @ jacks 135x6

dude.....


DUDE.....


can you count?

what?