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I've got a GUT !!!

Toenail Juice Z

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After 2 cycles, I got myself a gut. It seems like water retention, but why is all the water in my belly and nowhere else ? (the strange thing is that I can see my abs quite well when I tense. My bf is at about 8-9%).

I've heared a number of reasons for this. Which one is correct?

1) It is simply water retention
2) It is from taking steroids and not training enough
3) It is from not doing enough cardio

Has anyone had any experience with the diuretic LASIX. Would this get rid of it? OR would a cycle of Winstrol/Clenbuterol help more?

I would appreciate your input.:cool:
 
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How about diet? Was your diet clean? If so its probably just water since your BF is low. I usually have teh same problem, all goes to my gut. Im on week three of Dbol/Sus and am keeping down with proviron every day.
 
It can be fat deposit/accumulation more than just water retention
just workout your Glutes frequently, at least twice a week
do Hyperextension, Stiff-legged dead lift, Squat and all other back exercises as well

I would choose, 1-2-3

don't risk with Lasix, just try working out little harder and if you got no results then go with Lasix

I'm sure than a cycle of Clen & Winny will help especially if little T3 added as well
 
follow this routine:

M&F's Butt-Blasting Workout
You don't need to go all-out all the time during this program. You don't need to reach failure on every set, you don't need a raging pump after every workout and you certainly don't need to be painfully sore the next day. Instead, gradually increase your poundage as your rep ranges descend over the four weeks. During week 1, as you learn and perfect your technique on the various exercises, find a weight that causes you to fail after 20 reps and use that for your 15-12-10 sequence. During weeks 2-3, use a weight that causes failure at 15 reps and use it as you move down from 12 reps. During week 4, use a weight that causes failure at 10 reps for workout 2. Alternatively, advanced bodybuilders might want to consider manipulating intensity based on their one-rep max for the various exercises, starting at 65%-70% in week 1 and advancing to 90%-95% in week 4.

Week 1 Exercise Sets Reps
Squat 3 15, 12, 10
Hack Squat 3 15, 12, 10
Leg Press 3 15, 12, 10
Lying Leg Curl 3 15, 12, 10
Glute-Ham Raise 3 15, 12, 10
One-Legged Cable Kickback 2 15, 12
One-Legged Cable Lateral Raise 2 15, 12
Aerobics: Three weekly sessions, 30 minutes each. Use a stair-stepper and/or treadmill set at an incline for two of the three sessions.

Week 2/Workout 1
Exercise Sets Reps
Glute-Ham Raise 2 12, 10
Lying Leg Curl 2 12, 10
Hack Squat 4 12, 12, 10, 10
Workout 2
Walking Lunge 6 *
Sprints 4 +
Aerobics: Three weekly sessions, 35 minutes each. (The sprints don't count toward that amount.)
* One set equals 10-15 yards
+ One set equals 100 yards

Week 3/Workout 1
Superset: Exercise Sets Reps
Leg Press 3 12, 10, 8
Glute-Ham Raise 3 12, 10, 8
Hack Squat 3 12, 10, 8
Standing Leg Curl 3 12, 10, 8
Aerobics: Three weekly sessions, 40 minutes each. If possible, run hills or swim using fins for two of the three sessions.

Week 4/Workout 1
Exercise Sets Reps
Squat ++ 6 20
Workout 2 Exercise Sets Reps
Squat 2 8, 6
Hack Squat 2 8, 6
Leg Press 2 8, 6
Lying Leg Curl 2 8, 6
Glute-Ham Raise 2 8, 6
One-Legged Cable Kickback 2 8, 6
One-Legged Cable Lateral Raise 2 8, 6
Aerobics: Three weekly sessions, 45 minutes each. Use a stair-stepper and/or treadmill set at an incline for two of the three sessions. On the stair-stepper, alternate five minutes of pushing off the balls of your feet with five mintues of driving off your heels, and so on.

++ To maximize glute involvement, use a weight light enough to allow you to complete the prescribed number of reps, descending several inches below parallel out of a wider-than-usual stance.


Good luck:)
 
Yeah, I'm using 50mg Pro-Viron now i'm on my D-Bol, Sust, Deca, Primo, Winnie cycle.

Weam, i don't think it's fat cause my belly's pretty hard, and you'd have a hard time trying to pinch an inch of lard. However, I never train my glutes and i've never done Hyperextensions or squats.

"Don't risk with Lasix".... What do you mean. Is this stuff dangerous. I was under the impression it was simply a mild diuretic!

My diet's 80% clean and 20% dirty. I try to get as many calories as I can since I'm trying to bulk up, but I don't eat a lot of fats. For example I'de eat a corned beef (fattening), followed by tuna and lean meet throughout the day and perhaps a chocolate or 2 after my workout followed by a 500 calorie 48gram protein shake. I'm not a dieting freak.
 
Whether it's fat or water retention, training glutes will gonna help

Now I can really understand why it's water retention especially with this kind of roids

of course Lasix is dangerous, hello!!
Flex Wheeler turned to hospital this year due to Laxis just right after the contest (Arnold classic 2001 I guess)
it killed thousand of americans in the last few decades

Do you eat by hour or your just eat in anytime?!
 
No it's not from the roids I'm currently taking, it happened ever since my first Novice cycle of 200mg DECA only!!!.

I eat approximately every 3-4 hours. I try to eat 6 times a day, but I usually manage only 5. I also substitute my mass shake for a meal.

I drink a quite a lot of water, take antidepressants and smoke.
 
Bro, I have seen this gut before, but never have. It´s like an extended stomach, but still ripped or at last with abs. Like the GH gut.
Well I believe that it´s because of internal organs growth, like GH. I don´t see the point of retaining water under the muscle and not on the skin.
 
Your abb muscles are much bigger and stronger ever since your first cycle, correct? Maybe the muscles underneath are making you look a little bigger in the gut. That's assuming you had somewhat of a tummy to begin with.
 
You want to talk about roid gut? You should have seen
the one I saw on Nasser El Sombaty last month. He was bigger than I have ever seen him, definitely not precontest. Anyway, Roid gut is common when bulking.
Its a result of many factors. Your organs will grow, water retention increases, Your stomach distends from the combined effects of heavy resistance, esp squats, and the frequent consumption of large amounts of food and water. Oh, and bro, I take Imipramine HCL, its not the antidepressant.
 
I read something in muscle media a few months ago and it said something about this being called gut distension or something like that. It was when you gut sticks out from overeating on your meals and not exercising afterward but sleeping or laying down. It says most people have this if they eat carbs late at nite and go to sleep right afterward. The only way to fix this is by eating more smaller meals a day and not be full after you eat.
 
Are we splitting hairs here? Honestly try having a friend or two evaluate your ab section. Let someone else give their opinion. They may not see the same bloat as you. Sometimes we can't see the forest from the trees and it helps to stand back for a while to reevaluate what is actually in the mirror.

:rolleyes:

Sirwanksalot
 
Were you using a lot of gh? Sounds like you have a palumbo growth gut. If you do that really sucks as it throws your whole body off. There are ways of reducing it though as I have seen guys do it. I just don't know how. I would suggest staying away from any growth or high doses of test, anadrol, d-bol ect.
 
A similar situation happened me when I did my first cycle with only d-ball ... I think it's because the estrogen level (and not only by the water retention, how you guess it), take arimidex, and see what happen.

Regards.
 
take 1mg of arimidex per day and youll definately see a difference...i was in northern greece last month and a box was about 42,000 dracs or about $100..also try adding 50mcg of t3
hope this helps
jimbaker
 
Abdominoplasty

You're eight or nine percent body fat and still feature a gut?

I think the answer might not be cardio or diet. Instead, the
abdominal wall might be weak. That is, the muscles are not
tightly held together. The result is a distended look -- and a
greater susceptibility to hernia.

Ultimately, you might be a good candidate for abdominoplasty.
The procedure is like a nose-job for the stomach. It involves a
restitching of the muscles discussed above. Think about it.
 
Re: Abdominoplasty

the gringo said:
You're eight or nine percent body fat and still feature a gut?

I think the answer might not be cardio or diet. Instead, the
abdominal wall might be weak. That is, the muscles are not
tightly held together. The result is a distended look -- and a
greater susceptibility to hernia.

Ultimately, you might be a good candidate for abdominoplasty.
The procedure is like a nose-job for the stomach. It involves a
restitching of the muscles discussed above. Think about it.

You describe me here exactly, and I have had a hernia! I still look pretty good, but my abs should be better for 7% bf.
 
This is getting ridiculous. My body is overshadowed by this gut. Instead of my chest sticking out, I look like a pregnant mo fo.

I'm now competing with my old man as to who has the biggest belly.

Thanx for all the info. I will try the arimidex, but for now what do you think of PRO-VIRON?

And no, I have never taken GH.

SirWanksAlot, no wer'e not splitting hairs because I get comment from everyone, especially from my wife who hates it.

It's a pain in the ass when you bust your balls off in the gym for years and all you get in return is gut comments like these!.

Anyway it's not so bad here were I'm from, cause 90% of men here have guts from too much SOUVLA!!!!. Basically if you don't have a gut, your not Greek!:D
 
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