it's cycle time, have some questions about running the same thing twice

[koin]

late last year I ran test e + deca, I liked the gains, obviously lost the water weight but I walked away with solid results and I want to run it again.

friend of mine said running the same thing again won't work as well, was wondering if there were truths to this. he told me I should do something different like mast or tren, etc.

I bought enough for like 2-3 more cycles so it'd be a shame to not use it, what should I do? I have everything in order to get going, including my pct gear. I ended my last cycle of deca+test e in February of this year.

 

[kc17]

im running a similar cycle , i dont see any negative issues with running it again , add an oral for a kickstart !!!! what were your doses ?? how long will the cycle be ...what does the pct looks like, how was your experience recovering las tyear ??
give some stats ...

 

[koin]

for the first 4 weeks I did 300mg deca/500 test-e per wk

then I upped it to 600mg deca/1000mg test-e per wk

cycle started 11/29/10, started pct 2/1/11 (I'm aware I made the doses higher than I probably should have- and I'm considering keeping the original dose all throughout this time....I have a feeling I will have the same results with less risk. and 3 cc pins don't feel so nice)

pct was

HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 pm x 4 weeks
forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm every day 4 weeks
Unleashed & Post Cycle combo pack from NTBM 3 caps of each every day for 4 weeks
clomid 50mg ed x 4 weeks

recovery really wasn't terrible, I lost most of the weight but I felt fucking amazing all throughout, I literally felt just as strong during pct than I did at the peak of the cycle.

I do happen to have a box of methanabolic tabs, but how wise would it be to stack that for a "kick start" ? I just plan on repeating the same cycle I did last time but I'm not afraid to toss something else in the mix.

 

[25homes]

Can def run it again...now if the last time you cycled that was your first cycle results might not be same but first cycle always best results if done right

 

[kc17]

I would wait atleast another 2 months or so , remeber time on = time off atleast !!
I will add dbol the 1st for weeks @30mgs ed split doses..it will help you out , you won feel the test until week 4 or 5th .. keep it 12 weeks test , 10 deca ,dont go overboard with high doses .. eat plenty and continue eating after the cycle and you wont lose much !! I wonder why you lost most of the weight the first time..

that pct looks fine to me..

 

[koin]

definitely not waiting another 2 months but I hear what you're saying... what do you think of me jumping on methanabolic/methandrostenolone for a kick start? what doses should I be going for? I have 10 mg tablets and I have plenty of them...from what I understand it's a safer alternative to anavar.

 

[C.K.]

don't have to substitute but adding mast to test and deca would make it the perfect cycle and would eliminate the deca bloat

 

[stevesmi]

depends what you consider better.

usually guys gain the most weight on a first cycle cause they were so below their genetic potential when they started that its easy to gain a lot. obviously if you gain say 25 pounds on a first cycle, you aren't gonna gain another 25 pounds each time you run a cycle. if that was true then you would be 500 pounds after a bunch of cycles.

and yes you mentioned cycle in your thread title and post 3X. cycle means time on + time off. with deca you want to double time off. its only been 1-2 months since your PCT finished. give it another 2-3 months and you should be good. i recommend a blood test to confirm you've recovered. don't go by feel

people throw the word cycle around and they don't even cycle.

also i recommend keep deca below 400mg per week. thats all you need. and don't forget cabaser, not sure if you ran it during before.

 

[koin]

appreciate the advice. I will definitely get blood work done asap.

as far as the mast goes, hypothetically speaking, if I was to stack that with the deca/test, what would a safe oral dosage be? I've never done any oral test so I'm all ears

and yes I have cabaser and amiridex on deck

 

[lartinos]

kickstart with an oral maybe

 

[stevesmi]

I ran 2 cycles of deca myself.. to be honest after the 2nd one i was over it. yes deca will give you mass and strength but it also raised by bf from 7 to 17%. keep that in mind. if you don't mind the bloaty and mass look then keep going with deca. but if you don't then maybe running a mast/primo type cycle is more a good idea and then maybe save deca for the next one after.

after that experience I will never run deca again.

 

[HAYEZ]

if you ran the test at 1000 and deca at 600 last cycle do not drop the dosages down now..if you were side free with that cycle do it again no big deal...600 mg deca is not a high dose..100mg maybe...ive ran 800mg with no issues many times


your gains will be as good as you put into the workout and diet

 

[koin]

if you ran the test at 1000 and deca at 600 last cycle do not drop the dosages down now..if you were side free with that cycle do it again no big deal...600 mg deca is not a high dose..100mg maybe...ive ran 800mg with no issues many times


your gains will be as good as you put into the workout and diet

okay, sounds good. will be stacking with 20 mg dbol daily for the first 4 weeks as well

 

[Lancer55]

I saw you said you lost most of your gains, but what was your weight at the end of the cycle and then after PCT?

 

[HAYEZ]

also dont go by weight gain or loss go by body recomp to see results..always best to take before and after pics

 

[koin]

I saw you said you lost most of your gains, but what was your weight at the end of the cycle and then after PCT?

no I lost the water weight, if I lost all my gains I'd probably want to try something different.... weight was 175 after cycle, and around 168 after PCT. I'm about 165-168 currently and preparing to jump on it again...a little water weight don't scare me!

 

[koin]

also dont go by weight gain or loss go by body recomp to see results..always best to take before and after pics

yeah that's why I didn't get discouraged because while I lost most of the weight I walked away with obvious gains, great fucking combo