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Israeli bulldozer kills American protester

MattTheSkywalker said:


This is the same kind of ass-stupidity that prolongs the crisis and makes this world difficult to live in. Read my whole post before you respond.

Egypt gets the exact same amount of money. Additionally, at the commencement of the first gulf war,the US forgave all debt to Middle eastern nations except Israel. So in net terms, other Middle eastern nations have gottennearly as much aid as Israel. Egypt has netted more. That's irrelevant to this thread, but you should know your facts before you advocate stopping aid and start calling names.

What we have is basically butchery on both sides. Israel is being attacked by terrorists. So they fight back, viciously. Israel probably kills innocent people and destroys the homes of other innocent people.

Unfortuantely, in the case of fighting terrorists, there is a lot of collateral damage. The US killed 30 people at an Afghani wedding when we were looking for one guy.


Instead of looking for the moral high ground, and trying to get a better world opinion, both sides need to talk about solutions that will work now. Both sides need to stop indicting the other side for the past, and build for the future. How the fuck is a protestor going to stop a 1000 year old war?

If I am a bulldozer driver, and I am fighting an enemy that has tried to kill me, my family and whoever else, I am not going to stop because some girl is in the way. it could be a booby trap, could be a distraction, whatever.

We all miss the reality of the situation when we think that this is a construction site where someone can just stop, get off the bulldozer, get a court injunction and have the girl arrested. In our comparably serene American paradise, we gaze with curiosty whena guy chains himself to a tree. The prperty developer jumps through hoops to not offend anyone, and a compromise is reached.

The Middle east is not America. This bulldozer guy is doing this with tanks watching him so he is not attacked. They don't watch this shit on CNN and say "isn;t that a shame". When a suicide bomb explodes, Isralei's know a victim. when the Israeli Army goes into the west bank and kills 12 people, the families are right there. It is personal to them, and it is the height of American (or in 2thick's case, Canadian) arrogance to think we can go there and just stop their actions.

Really sad.

Great post.
 
Frackal said:



Fuck you!

"Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," Schnabel said. "She waved for the bulldozer to stop and waved. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled, 'Stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."

Maybe she was protesting, then decided to run, fell, bulldozer ran her over, THEN backed up over her again... fuck that

Another thing I find amusing is most of you hardcore anti-peace always-war faggots have never even seen a real war, except on CNN...if you like war so much, go overseas and sit in the desert battlefield that will be Iraq...after you've gotten a hearty dose of children's burnt entrails and the shrieks of pain from limbless bomb victims, if you're still alive, you'll have changed your tune.


She played chicken with a bulldozer and lost. I think she was seriously stupid to go over to Israel only to protest and start shit. Who the fuck did she think she was? What did her wasting her life to a bulldozer mean to anyone? Nothing but a wasted life. No kids, no husband, no family or meaningful life that could have been. She had no business being over there for that reason. She shouldn't have played chicken with a bulldozer.

I would love to join the Marines and kill some Iraqi ass, but i have to finish school first. That bitch did not die for any cause. She died because of complete stupidity and lack of respect for heavy operating machinery.
 
Jimsbbc said:



She played chicken with a bulldozer and lost. I think she was seriously stupid to go over to Israel only to protest and start shit. Who the fuck did she think she was? What did her wasting her life to a bulldozer mean to anyone? Nothing but a wasted life. No kids, no husband, no family or meaningful life that could have been. She had no business being over there for that reason. She shouldn't have played chicken with a bulldozer.

I would love to join the Marines and kill some Iraqi ass, but i have to finish school first. That bitch did not die for any cause. She died because of complete stupidity and lack of respect for heavy operating machinery.

Yes, by all means, please finish school because you're as dumb as a stick. She at the very least made world news and died doing something she believed in. Not the brightest bulb on the porch I grant you, but I bet she makes a bigger impact on this world than you could ever hope to, sitting back on your cushioned ass and criticizing people who are actually out trying to do something.

And what exactly is keeping you from joining the Marines and "kill some Iraqi ass"? School will be here when you get back. Why not back up your shit for a change?
 
casavant said:
I'm no leftist or pussy-ass liberal or anything of the like, but how some of you can look at the crushed body of a dying young girl who, whether mistaken or not, was peacefully trying to do something she thought would help another human being, and call her a "dumb bitch", etc., is beyond me.


The only reason I find it humorous is because she stood in front of a bulldozer voluntarily. I don't believe these people are trying to help anyone else. Self absorbtion is a precursor for leftist thought. At the most basic level she is a selfish bitch who was trying to impress her friends by doing something she thought was cool. She actually thought she was so important to the world that she could stand in the way of a country exacting punishment on a terrorist. That level of arrogance is shameful and if she dies displaying it then so be it.
 
gymtime said:


Agreed. While I can't say much for this girls judgement, I can say she has ten times the balls any of you do who would dance on her grave like that.

Not true. She just had the arrogance to believe that there would never be any consequences for her actions.
 
Frackal said:


Another thing I find amusing is most of you hardcore anti-peace always-war faggots have never even seen a real war, except on CNN...if you like war so much, go overseas and sit in the desert battlefield that will be Iraq...after you've gotten a hearty dose of children's burnt entrails and the shrieks of pain from limbless bomb victims, if you're still alive, you'll have changed your tune.

great post
 
My problem with her is that she was only adding to the problem, then everyone says how sad when she throws her self in front of a moving bulldozer. She contributed nothing to the conflict in Israel even though she thought she was some hot shit, obviously. She is no different than any auto-pedestrian accident in town. She wasted her life for nothing. Reminds me of that Chinese fighter pilot a while back showboating and downed our recon aircraft and made a huge foreign relations nightmare. Well, she is about the same mentality IMO. Complete jackass, yeah made the news, but not the way i would ever want to be remembered.

BTW anything that has to do with me or my personal life is absolutely none of your business. You don't know the first damn thing about me or my education/background so fuck off gymtime. I obviously got the best of your emotions with your little temper tantrum. Sorry dude, didn't mean for you to get upset with reality.
 
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ariolanine said:



The only reason I find it humorous is because she stood in front of a bulldozer voluntarily. I don't believe these people are trying to help anyone else. Self absorbtion is a precursor for leftist thought. At the most basic level she is a selfish bitch who was trying to impress her friends by doing something she thought was cool. She actually thought she was so important to the world that she could stand in the way of a country exacting punishment on a terrorist. That level of arrogance is shameful and if she dies displaying it then so be it.

Really though, how can you know so much about her motives and thought processes from one story and a couple of pictures? And even if what you say is true and her motives were not altruistic in the least, why is it "humorous" that her body was crushed under a bulldozer?
 
casavant said:


Really though, how can you know so much about her motives and thought processes from one story and a couple of pictures? And even if what you say is true and her motives were not altruistic in the least, why is it "humorous" that her body was crushed under a bulldozer?

Because one picture is worth a thousand words. Humans aren't all that complicated. Once the profile is laid out the rest is easy to figure. I know everything I need to know from the picture of her standing in front of a huge dozer with a megaphone. It's humorous to see stupid people who think they are holier than thou find out that they really are stupid. Since they have obviously spent their entire lives outside of the real world, it's nice for their kind to be brought back into reality with an action that they never thought would happen. At the same time, I do hope that her suffering was minimal. Maybe I'm being hard, but I can't feel sorry for every dumb motherfucker out there. It would be a fulltime job.
 
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