Is this too much for a first cycle?

[JeSt3r]

Just wondering if:

500mg test e / week ~ weeks 1-10
400mg eq / week ~ weeks 1-10

is too much for a first cycle??
if it is what should it be dropped down to 250/200?

and would this PCT be ok?

novla week 13 40mg ED
novla week 14 30mg ED
novla week 15 20mg ED
novla week 16 20mg ED

 

[Vicious cycle]

Just wondering if:

500mg test e / week ~ weeks 1-10
400mg eq / week ~ weeks 1-10

is too much for a first cycle??
if it is what should it be dropped down to 250/200?

and would this PCT be ok?

novla week 13 40mg ED
novla week 14 30mg ED
novla week 15 20mg ED
novla week 16 20mg ED

I like it. I prefer HCG/Clomid and Novla for PCT however.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I would cut them down to 250-300 mg each. You do not need 900 mg. I would add clomid to your PCT at 50 mg a day, and cut the nolva back to 10-20 mg.

 

[HAYEZ]

thats what im doing for my first plus hcg used through whole thing 500 test 400 eq

 

[mrflexdiesel]

Looks pretty damn good. You could stand to lower your amounts down a tad like 400mg/wk on the Test and 200mg/wk on the EQ. You are gonna blow the hell up. I loved my first cycle! But, yeah like others said you will most likely want to add some Clomid to the mix also post-cycle.

 

[JeSt3r]

Oh yea forgot to mention .25mg of armidex ed throughout

 

[GoldenDelicious]

cut out the eq, half the test

i made a thread on low dose testosterone use, find it and read it

im not advocating steroid use, do roids onlt with a doctor, but cycles keep getting heavier needlessly...making sides get worse

 

[flex2win]

cut out the eq, half the test

i made a thread on low dose testosterone use, find it and read it

im not advocating steroid use, do roids onlt with a doctor, but cycles keep getting heavier needlessly...making sides get worse

Gotta agree with the GoldenBoy on this one...first cycle, keep it simple..250-500mg test/wk for 10 weeks, and nothing else, except for a high calorie/protein diet, and a well planned PCT, something I knew very little about in the beginning...good luck...

 

[mrjrock19]

yeah, i would lower it a little bit and see how you react to it...then next time you can adjust... better to be on the safe side... and you should see good gains from a low dose being it's your first time

 

[adam wj]

too young for gear bro

assuming the bday in your profile isnt a joke

 

[RADAR]

a 17yr old-has no business doing steroids.


RADAR

 

[GoldenDelicious]

lol @ all the sleuths

 

[BIGJAKE]

a 17yr old-has no business doing steroids.


RADAR

agreed

 

[Slyder190]

If This Kid Is 17, We Should Wish Him Well With Natural Training For Quite Some Time.

 

[flex2win]

If this dude is 17, I wish to retract my previous advice and offer the following instead: WTF are you thinking??

 

[hammertime30]

if your birthday is correct fella...you're playing with fire, but it's your life...just don't call Fox in 8 months and bad mouth AAS. Enough of that is going around already!

 

[BigGuns29]

Dude, you have about 8 years of great natural growth left in you. Your test levels are probably higher than mine get when I am on. Gees!!!! Eat right and get as much protein in your mouth as you can and dedicate a lot of time to the gym. You will grow just fine without the above ingredients you mentioned !!!

 

[SOLID2]

new to the site.. but will agree 17 way too young... i'm 34 just started.. tell me if 1ml of test and 2ml of deca is right for me to start with and how long for a cycle.

 

[mikebzt]

new to the site.. but will agree 17 way too young... i'm 34 just started.. tell me if 1ml of test and 2ml of deca is right for me to start with and how long for a cycle.

depends on concentrations.
500 test and 400 deca for 10 weeks should put on a good amount of mass
just don't forget pct

 

[SOLID2]

depends on concentrations.
500 test and 400 deca for 10 weeks should put on a good amount of mass
just don't forget pct

THANKS FOR THE REPLY: TRYING TO LEARN THE RIGHT WAY AND THE INS TO AAS... BECAUSE OF THE CONCENTRATIONS I'M A LITTLE LESS THAN RECOMENDED... WOULD YOU TAKE THIS AMOUNT IN 1 DOSE OR 2 TIMES IN THE WEEK? ALSO WHAT PCT IS GOOD ... THANKS

 

[hammertime30]

THANKS FOR THE REPLY: TRYING TO LEARN THE RIGHT WAY AND THE INS TO AAS... BECAUSE OF THE CONCENTRATIONS I'M A LITTLE LESS THAN RECOMENDED... WOULD YOU TAKE THIS AMOUNT IN 1 DOSE OR 2 TIMES IN THE WEEK? ALSO WHAT PCT IS GOOD ... THANKS

Rules of the board bro...Never ride someone elses post....Start your own and you will get all the info you need.

 

[small but working on it]

I agree with most on here. I would cut to 500mg a week and start with 20mg dbol for the first 4 weeks to jump start your system. If you are 17 , are you really 17 yrs old? That is insane to be thinking about any gear now. Eat and get in the gym and watch what can happen.

 

[BigGuns29]

Rules of the board bro...Never ride someone elses post....Start your own and you will get all the info you need.

uhhh....and also, DON'T SCREAM LIKE THIS, either

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

Get A Job And Some Steady Pussy First, When Ur 23 We Can Talk

 

[JeSt3r]

Get A Job And Some Steady Pussy First, When Ur 23 We Can Talk

i got a job and steady pussy....yes im 17....the only reason i am considering ANY gear like i've mentioned a few times is because i want to try to get a shot playing college ball....and even if i am nasty as hell, not many colleges look at a fucking 160lbs 5'7 player....

and yes its my body...and if i do fuck myself up no im not gonna call fox and tell them how AAS fucked my life up....the gear didnt fuck my life up...."I" fucked my life up....so dont worry about that....

I know im gonna get flamed out the ass but thats my point of view....but also look at it like this...at least im taking the time to findout the PROPER way to use gear (even tho many people think i shuldnt) rather than just finding the cheapest different types of gear and just sticking needles in my ass and popping pills...

 

[RADAR]

i got a job and steady pussy....yes im 17....the only reason i am considering ANY gear like i've mentioned a few times is because i want to try to get a shot playing college ball....and even if i am nasty as hell, not many colleges look at a fucking 160lbs 5'7 player....

and yes its my body...and if i do fuck myself up no im not gonna call fox and tell them how AAS fucked my life up....the gear didnt fuck my life up...."I" fucked my life up....so dont worry about that....

I know im gonna get flamed out the ass but thats my point of view....but also look at it like this...at least im taking the time to findout the PROPER way to use gear (even tho many people think i shuldnt) rather than just finding the cheapest different types of gear and just sticking needles in my ass and popping pills...

Heres the problem.......your body is already undergoing hormonal changes, introducing gear would be like pouring gasoline on a fire, however good as this sounds the drawbacks come later herein lies the problem, So what happens after a cycle?Like i said earlier you already have hormones developing, well introducing gear your body has no need to produce anymore, after the cycle is over you crash, Depression kicks in Teenages usually can't handle the crash, the urge to train is lost, size is lost, half will see a DR. to cope with Depression....heres where more problems develop.
Also be prepaired to stop growing as your growth plates will fuse after running gear.
Yeah! Sounds like a win win situtation.................


RADAR