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Is this self defense or murder?
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Walter Szczerbiak
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yeh lets have every little highschool athlete poppin d'bol at lunch so he can permenantely fuck up his growth and hormones for life, good call
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Walter Szczerbiak
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heatherrae said:
actually drug raids are done at the wake of sun
City SWAT doesn't prefer to raid houses in the pitch black for dozens of obvious reasons
It was self defense and he the jury found him NOT guilty. The warrant was also declared illegal by the judge as well as the whole procedure. People must understand that the Laval's PD is actually considered as one of the biggest joke in LE around the province and perhaps the whole country and since the last decande (at least).
Basically they had an illegal search warrant (not enough evidence to get one) issued for a regular entry (they used dynamic entry instead) and valid after 6am (they performed their moronic operation at night lol). Plus add to the fact that they used the good ol' "Blue Jeans Possee" instead of SWAT and/or uniformed officers. There's a reason why no other PDs will send a bunch of plain clothes screaming like mad apes into a suspicious house.
So in other words, the cops got what they deserved.
Basically they had an illegal search warrant (not enough evidence to get one) issued for a regular entry (they used dynamic entry instead) and valid after 6am (they performed their moronic operation at night lol). Plus add to the fact that they used the good ol' "Blue Jeans Possee" instead of SWAT and/or uniformed officers. There's a reason why no other PDs will send a bunch of plain clothes screaming like mad apes into a suspicious house.
So in other words, the cops got what they deserved.
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Walter Szczerbiak
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gjohnson5 said:
cigarettes don't kill you the first time either but they do and will fuck you up in the long run
never heard of cops or citizens getting killed in steroid busts
blueta2
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Like Manny said, he was aquitted. Not guilty. The jury saw it as self defense
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.wlaval13/BNStory/National/home
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.wlaval13/BNStory/National/home
calveless wonder
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vixensghost said:
hang him? because he sells coke
no, not because he killed another human being. because he sells coke
most coke dealers don't sell out of their house anyways. thats dumb
sounds like the cops fucked up on this one. why would they start shooting without identifying themselves first?
seaking420
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I completely agree................k to you
lmao, they didn't find drugs, he's not convicted of drug trafficking, but he's already being crucified as a drug dealer. The warrant wasnt served correctly (per the article), and the cop was killed.
Did it say whether the gun he was killed with was legally owned, or was it one of the illegal ones?
Dont forget Ruby Ridge people. I realize that's canada, but govt and police are so fukking shady.
Did it say whether the gun he was killed with was legally owned, or was it one of the illegal ones?
Dont forget Ruby Ridge people. I realize that's canada, but govt and police are so fukking shady.
blueta2
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The gun was registered and legal
The guy who shot the cop is now lashing out at the police dept because he's being portrayed as a drug dealer, which he claims he's not.
I also didn't mention, when the cops stormed this guys house, they shot his wife. She got lucky, it hit her in the arm. Had she died and left two kids w/out a Mom, this would have been a way different story
The guy who shot the cop is now lashing out at the police dept because he's being portrayed as a drug dealer, which he claims he's not.
I also didn't mention, when the cops stormed this guys house, they shot his wife. She got lucky, it hit her in the arm. Had she died and left two kids w/out a Mom, this would have been a way different story
Law + emotions = cloudy judgements
law = law
law = law
bigmann245
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xrsist said:
i went through the academy and believe me they burn it in your head that people have the inherent right to protect themselves from the use of unnecessary and excessive force. that means if im a cop and i raid your house on an illegal warrant the person being raided has full rights to protect them self, their family and their home and their dog and their fish and their cat and the fleas in the carpet.
blueta2
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Three shots hit Constable Tessier, killing him. The last shot struck another constable in the arm.
Jurors heard that Constable Lauzon and Constable François Leblanc mistakenly thought the shots had come from a door in front of them, so they fired 10 shots at the bedroom of Mr. Parasiris's 15-year-old son.
While backing up, Constable Lauzon bumped into Detective.-Sergeant Nathalie Allard as she fired at the master bedroom.
One of her shots struck Constable Tessier as he lay dying; another wounded Mr. Parasiris' wife, Penny Gounis, in an arm.
There were also questions about Constable Tessier's appearance. He was dressed in black and the word "police" on his bulletproof vest was obscured by a flap, the jury was told.
The Crown said the slain officer wore a baseball cap with a police logo on it. But the defence noted that the ambulance drivers didn't see that cap. Instead, a black tuque was found at the scene
Jurors heard that Constable Lauzon and Constable François Leblanc mistakenly thought the shots had come from a door in front of them, so they fired 10 shots at the bedroom of Mr. Parasiris's 15-year-old son.
While backing up, Constable Lauzon bumped into Detective.-Sergeant Nathalie Allard as she fired at the master bedroom.
One of her shots struck Constable Tessier as he lay dying; another wounded Mr. Parasiris' wife, Penny Gounis, in an arm.
There were also questions about Constable Tessier's appearance. He was dressed in black and the word "police" on his bulletproof vest was obscured by a flap, the jury was told.
The Crown said the slain officer wore a baseball cap with a police logo on it. But the defence noted that the ambulance drivers didn't see that cap. Instead, a black tuque was found at the scene
heatherrae said:
Lol dude, chill out... lol He was no drug dealer. In fact they found almost nothing and they knew that from the start cause the cops had no evidence, only miserable info through hearsay. Maybe in your trailerpark, cops can get "no knock warrants" for 1g of pot but not here. And no knock warrants are done by a Swat team, not a bunch of plain clothes wearing tuques who could easily be mistaken for hillbillies.
But hey whatever......lol Their stupid chief just admitted today they needed to change the whole raid procedure.
These baboons even got thrown out of a gunrange last year for being reckless jackass. But what else can we expect from a city that is a mix between NJ and Staten Island lol
I believe NJ is one of the smartest states in the nation.
People are missing the point here. It doesn't matter if the guy had no drugs in the house or if the guy had 20 dead bodies in his basement. If police tell you to get down, you do it. Period.
People are missing the point here. It doesn't matter if the guy had no drugs in the house or if the guy had 20 dead bodies in his basement. If police tell you to get down, you do it. Period.
manny78 said:As long as they look like cops....
Yep, the word 'POLICE' on their shirt, and possibly wearing a vest.
manny78 said:
OK I give up. If they went into the house (all 8 policemen or something) and acted like they were robbing the guy, then yes, he had the right to shoot them. They do seem like idiots. I was assuming they did it with proper procedure when I read the first post. After 10 pages of posts, other info is coming out which may or may not sway the decision, but you still can't have regular, normal, honest, law abiding, police officers going into a house and risk being shot because it's OK. You simply can't have that.
Well, I said I guive up, then I keep arguing. Oh well.
Here it goes.
#1 -Murder- if the police did it according to the law.
#2- Self defense- if the police were the Bad News Bears who just got off the set of Jerry Springer Show.
I think they were dressed as the cast of the thriller video.
gjohnson5 said:
Good bro material right there ^^^
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blueta2 said:
Then justice was served.
IMO the judicial system balances everything out in the end.
Basikstylz
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gonelifting said:
I agree with you... You can't allow it.
It this situation... I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this... I skipped about 5 pages of posts.
If the cops know they are going in with out announcing themselves first. Shouldn't they have done their research and if they had they should have known that this guy had legally purchased firearms.(I'm assuming Canada has some kind of regulations and records of gun purchases on file.) If they had know this maybe they would have approached the situation differently. And maybe the cop would still be alive.
sailorjohn
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castle law. the right to defend you home and love one... Cops need to learn there are limits to there bad behavior!
self defense!!
self defense!!
PICK3
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I could go either way
3 year old thread, LOL
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