Is this right?

[keger]

Hi all. I'm new to the forum but have been researching for quite some time. So, my question is, is this a good stack? Ive taken what I thought was gear form legalsteroids.com before (i know, i know). So technically this would be my first time.
WEEKS
1-4 DBOL (oral 25-50mg/day)
2-10 TEST (sustanon 250/ .5cc/week and pyramiding up to 2cc and back to .5)
8-12 WINSTROL (25-50mg/day
12-14 CLOMID (x1/day)

I'm 30yr old, been weight training for bout 3yrs. I'm 190lbs and 19-20% bf. Diet is pretty good just coming off a rotator cuff injury a few weeks ago. Any help would be appreciated. Also is their someone I can PM a link to the site im looking to order from so I can be sure its trusted and gear is legit, thx again.

 

[dylangemelli]

thats way too much for a first cycle bro and your body fat is way too high to be running a cycle... there's no way you've been doing the research you say because you would know the answer you are going to get on this... you need to get your body fat down a lot first and then we can fix that mess of a cycle you have... you should never run that much shit on a first cycle man...

 

[keger]

I don't plan on taking until Dec. I'm just trying to get everything ready/ordered for then. I'm naturally 15-17% bf, so now that Ive got the ok from the doc to train again im sure ill drop back to 175/ 15% like usual. This seems to be my stats no mater what I do i.e. caloric defect, different training routine. Ive been in the military 10yrs and and for the last 5-6yrs it hasn't changed much really. So what is recommended then? I have been reading alot and talking to a buddy that actually cycles the same as above. This is why I decided to register and post, for more info/better opinions good or bad. I am trying to learn the ins and outs of it all. Thx.

 

[Mason Kray]

Bro do yourself a massive favour and listen to Dylan; he knows his shit!

 

[keger]

I am. Thats why im asking what should I do then? Or what is recommended.

 

[Mason Kray]

First of all Bro get that body fat down below 15%. Then I'd suggest you look into a Test E only cycle first off. As for gear check, post a picture in that section and the guys over there will give you feedback.

 

[Mekat]

ur first cycle should always be test e 250-500 mg....and thats it, no need to overcomplicate things. and clomid alone for PCT will not suffice

..and like mason said, dont start the cycle until ur at 15% bf or lower and until ur injury is fully healed

 

[burnthiscorpse]

250mg sust for 10-12 weeks will do you just fine. Trust me. Research the shit out of proper PCT. Theres about a thousand threads on it here.

 

[keger]

Ok.., Thx for the advise. I Want to do it right. So ill look into test-e or sust 250 only cycle in Dec/jan if im back down to 15% or below.
Yea I know I need more for pct. I'm still learning what combats what.
I wont start anything until I get solid advice that what I'm planning is good to go so more dumb questions will come in the future I'm sure lol.

 

[peejae]

If you cant find a good source u could always run a sarms stack from one Of the
Board sponsors. Less suppression and pct is barely needed. Just research sarms and Dylan knows alot about them. If you do find a legit source just run any test at 500mg a week when ur ready. You will get Great results.


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[Nelson Montana]

I think education was actually better 20 years ago when there were one or two pamphlets on steroid use and that was that. All the science may not have been correct, but the basic information was. 500 mgs for 6 weeks was the norm. 25 mgs of an oral was a top dosage. Now you have a glut of message board retards saying do this and that and someone with zero experience thinks that 100 mgs of orals a day is just fine -- as long as they take nolvadex? lol It's a monkey fuck of misinformation.

 

[dylangemelli]

I think education was actually better 20 years ago when there were one or two pamphlets on steroid use and that was that. All the science may not have been correct, but the basic information was. 500 mgs for 6 weeks was the norm. 25 mgs of an oral was a top dosage. Now you have a glut of message board retards saying do this and that and someone with zero experience thinks that 100 mgs of orals a day is just fine -- as long as they take nolvadex? lol It's a monkey fuck of misinformation.

LMAO! so very true!


bro, as a first cycle, i would go with test and either an oral kickstart or an oral on the back end... that's plenty... you don't want to be throwing a bunch of different shit at your body all at once... if you have problems, how would you know what was causing it?? You also can't just overload your body when it's never had any sort of these types of foreign substances in it...

what is your main goal from the cycle??

here's the proper pct...

[FONT=&quot]clomid 25/25/25/25 chemicalneed.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com[/FONT]

 

[keger]

My goal is to gain size (lbm).... Thx to everyone that's giving me advise. And yes there is almost too much info on products on the net. It's hard to tell what's good/bad cuz one site coneridicts the next lol.