Is this recipe correct??

[sjones99]

I have been training for ten years and juicing for five years and I want to try my hand at homebrewing so is this recipe correct and is it missing anything??



As an example, we’ll make an injectable steroid – testosterone enanthate.

To make 40ml @250mg/ml of this steroid, you need:
10 grams hormone (testosterone enanthate)
.08ml Benzyl Alcohol = 2% BA
8ml Benzyl Benzoate = 20% BB
23.2ml oil (grape seed or sesame seed)
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
Vial or beaker
Sterile filter

Place powder in vial/beaker. Add BA/BB/Oil to the vial. Heat on Low/Med heat until it dissolves completely. Place the needle in the vial. Place another needle in the vial to relieve the pressure. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though filter. With needle still in the vial, place in oven on a cookie sheet and bake for an hour at 275F degrees.

ANY INPUT MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!

 

[Heath82]

all the numbers are correct

 

[sjones99]

all the numbers are correct

Thanks man, ive been reading some more and does enanthate need the bb or not??

Did the steps look accurate??

 

[Heath82]

no, you dont have to have bb, but since you got your numbers already figured up keep it in there. everything looks accurate, you can do it that way or this way, whichever is easier

• measure 10 grams of powder
• place the powder in the vial
• add BA to the vial
• heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)
• add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later
• gently shake the vial.
• reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stove
• place an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filter
• place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure
• draw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filter
• take the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.

 

[cm3rt]

Just wanted to say that I have been looking around for a while for a nice explanation of how this is done and this is the best explanation on how to conjure up some Test Enanthate.

 

[25homes]

heat oil seperatly in oven bake at 275 degree for 20 min to sterilize. cook rest on stove as described. pull oil from oven let cool slightly the add oil to your heated chemicals then filter. try to avoid any extra heat to chemical that is not neccesarry. you dont need bb you could just pull bb out and add that volume to your oil to keep numbers accurate

 

[ceg710]

if you add those up it only comes to 32mL... am i missing something. i thought you would need 40mL of solvent or does the 10g of test e somehow play into this equation? i'm obviously new to this

 

[clozto50]

Of course 10 grams is volume about equal to 1mm/gm! You may want to invest in a hand pump and filter,after awhile you will hate whatman filters.

 

[goin on 4T]

you don't neeed to bake it, that is why its filtered.

 

[PuffDawg]

Personally I like to bake mine when its finished. Not too hot. Just enough to evaporate some of the alcohol-vapors(process of osmosis). It does make less painful injects by baking. We don't have the environment like human grade stuff is made in so we need to use more BA etc to get it sterile. Once its sterile and you bake out some of the alcohols, its still sterile with less alcohol which = less pain. It takes quite a bit of heat to ruin your hormone.

 

[goin on 4T]

You should leave the ba in there to keep oil sterile. Some people are just not clean. It's only painful with more than 2% ba. IMHO

 

[PuffDawg]

Most human grade is .09% Thats right at 1%. However we don't have the cleanest facilities as they do and its why we have to use more ba etc... If you use 2% and bake it and vent it with a pin so that some of the alcohols can evaporate, it isn't gonna get rid of ALL the ba. Its still gonna be more than 1%. Just be slightly less than 2% if thats what you used and it will still be sterile. Its been a proven fact that when using a real ass burner such as test prop and baking and venting with a pin, that it reduces pain significantly while doing nothing to the hormone. For the longest time noone knew why but it worked.

 

[goin on 4T]

Seems like a pain. Lol I think it's the ester in prop that causes the pain. Some are effected by prop some are not. Why not just cut it with gs oil and I guarantee will be no pain.

 

[nydj66]

You should leave the ba in there to keep oil sterile. Some people are just not clean. It's only painful with more than 2% ba. IMHO

I make all my gear with 3% BA. My first bacth of test-e had 5% BA and there was no pain at all.

The only time I've run into painful injections is with gear that has low solubility in oil like test-prop. After injection, the oil dissapates into the system, leaving crystals of gear behind that hurt like hell.

In my opinion, that's why Ethyl Oleate makes less painful gear; because stuff like test-prop is more soluble in EO than in oil. (Just my $0.02 rant).

 

[nydj66]

if you add those up it only comes to 32mL... am i missing something. i thought you would need 40mL of solvent or does the 10g of test e somehow play into this equation? i'm obviously new to this

10g of powdered gear is about 8ml worth of volume. I've actually measure the total volume after following recipes like the one described here and found it to be pretty accurate.

 

[nydj66]

Thanks man, ive been reading some more and does enanthate need the bb or not??

Did the steps look accurate??

test-e (and deca) need no BB because they are soluble enough in just plain oil.

However, having the BB in the formula will not hurt anything and will make the final product thinner and easier to inject.

 

[benny2630]

i wouldnt bake at the end might mess up pottency

 

[Machine5150]

if you add those up it only comes to 32mL... am i missing something. i thought you would need 40mL of solvent or does the 10g of test e somehow play into this equation? i'm obviously new to this

the powder has a viscosity of .75.. so one gram of oil will take up .75ml

also.. he wrote .08ml of BA when i think he meant .8 ml

 

[goin on 4T]

Ok well I have never seen more than 2%BA so mine is just hearsay but thanks for clearing up a standard misconception. Its wierd some people get crashing pain from prop and some not. And those who don't still might get it every once and a while...

I make all my gear with 3% BA. My first bacth of test-e had 5% BA and there was no pain at all.

The only time I've run into painful injections is with gear that has low solubility in oil like test-prop. After injection, the oil dissapates into the system, leaving crystals of gear behind that hurt like hell.

In my opinion, that's why Ethyl Oleate makes less painful gear; because stuff like test-prop is more soluble in EO than in oil. (Just my $0.02 rant).

 

[greenpatch]

i once read tht if u bake it u can mess it up/harm it

 

[rickarino]

The benzyl alcohol is off by an order of magnitude. It should be 0.8 ml, not 0.08 ml.

 

[Ammy John]

sounds nice procedure but I haven't tried ever before.