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Is this enough HCG?

babbabuee

babbabuee

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I'm using 500IU eod for the week leading up to my last shot of TestE and EQ(8wk cycle) and also 500IU eod for the week after my last shot, then waiting 4 days and starting clomid. I'm wondering if I should be doing 500IU ed instead? Just my third cycle and first time with HCG and I actually think my nuts are getting fuller after just 3 days.
thanks
 
no hcg midcycle. they were/are shrunken pretty good. but after two hcg injects, they do feel a bit fuller. in the future, I'm definitely going to run some hcg e4d or e5d during the cycle.
I guess I'll just keep going with 500iu eod, could only help.
 
You only need as much HCG as it takes to bring them back. If what you are doing is working then do not increase. Just keep doing what you are doing. You know how big they were before you started. Take your HCG just like you are doing until they are normal again. I like 500IU EOD. That dosage works just fine for me. You should be able to tell in 4-5 days if that is working. If they are not coming back at all then up the dose. In 4-5 days if you are making good progress do not increase dosage. Just keep taking it until they are back to normal. Maybe 2-3 weeks. Good luck bro.
 
babbabuee said:
I'm using 500IU eod for the week leading up to my last shot of TestE and EQ(8wk cycle) and also 500IU eod for the week after my last shot, then waiting 4 days and starting clomid. I'm wondering if I should be doing 500IU ed instead? Just my third cycle and first time with HCG and I actually think my nuts are getting fuller after just 3 days.
thanks
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I think that looks good, especially if your nuts are responding. How were your gains on that cycle?
 
thanks again corno, and you too hvywght.

I do feel them filling in, so I'll wait and see. as for gains, it's been a tough cycle for me. I was dealing with some sciatic irritation before I started the cycle, but I didn't have any injuries, so I proceeded with test e 250mg e4d and eq 200mg e4d with some var at 40mg ed. anyway, long story short, had relatives in town for a month, so diet wasn't spot on, but I think it's just a bit of fat I picked up, plus that sciactic is really bad now, hurts like a mofo when I try to bend over straight legged, so no SLDL, but dead lifts, no problem. well, I went from about 164 to 178 in the first 5weeks and then it slowed down. i didn't gain much until last week when I started popping dbol at 20mg ed. now at 181 and plan on finishin up the next two weeks at about 185. Hoping to stay at about 175-180, but it's been tough with the back thing. but I love EQ, I am so vascular and tight it's great. everyone's noticing how Hard I look.
 
babbabuee said:
thanks again corno, and you too hvywght.

I do feel them filling in, so I'll wait and see. as for gains, it's been a tough cycle for me. I was dealing with some sciatic irritation before I started the cycle, but I didn't have any injuries, so I proceeded with test e 250mg e4d and eq 200mg e4d with some var at 40mg ed. anyway, long story short, had relatives in town for a month, so diet wasn't spot on, but I think it's just a bit of fat I picked up, plus that sciactic is really bad now, hurts like a mofo when I try to bend over straight legged, so no SLDL, but dead lifts, no problem. well, I went from about 164 to 178 in the first 5weeks and then it slowed down. i didn't gain much until last week when I started popping dbol at 20mg ed. now at 181 and plan on finishin up the next two weeks at about 185. Hoping to stay at about 175-180, but it's been tough with the back thing. but I love EQ, I am so vascular and tight it's great. everyone's noticing how Hard I look.
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Up 17 lbs so far? Sounds good! It's always hard to tell where you'll end up after PCT but I hope you'll keep most of it. I'm also an eq lover! Haven't used it for a while now because I've been venturing and trying some different things but I'll be back to it!
 
babbabuee said:
I went from about 164 to 178 in the first 5weeks and then it slowed down.
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Eh bro. This is exactly why my upcoming cycles are only going to be 5-6 wks long. That is when 90% of my gains come, and its just not worth staying suppressed for anotther 6 wks for an extra 3 lbs. I would rather get my gains, get out, then start to recover. EQ has always been a large part of my previous cycles, but I am going the NPP route this time. My best gains came when I ran Deca and dbol, i just find the gains slow and minimal on EQ. They are quality when they eventually do come though.

Anyways, if running HCG for PCT, i like to run it over the course of 3 wks. Hit my nutsack hard at first with the LH, then slowly ease off it. I do it like this.

Wk1
HCG: 3500IU (500iu/day)
Nolva: 20mg/day

Wk2
HCG: 3500IU (500iu/day)
Nolva: 20mg/day

Wk3
HCG: 2000IU (depending how well testicular mass is being restored, i may stick with 3500IU).
Nolva: 20mg/day

To further stimulate the HPTA, and support the high LH levels, run the Nolva for 2 to 3 weeks after your HCG therapy has been stopped. YOu could use clomid as well if you wanted, but I see no benefit it has over Nolva.

Good luck,
Mavy

p.s. How did the var treat you? did you like it?
 
but mavy, I thought it wasn't a good idea to run the anti e with the hcg? I was planning to start clomid 4 days after hcg inject.
 
No babbabuee, infact its pretty crucial that you do. You need it to combat the suppressive effects of estrogen as testosterone levels start to go back up, as well as to protect you from any potential side effects from the HCG (it has been shown to increase testicular aromatase). 20mg of Nolva while running it should do the trick.

Cheers,
Mavy
 
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