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Is This Correct How Aids Got Started?

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curling

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This is what I have heard about how aids got started is this all correct, part correct or totally wrong.

I heard that some dude did with a monkey or an ape or something in africa(guess he believed in evolution thought he was just doing a decent relative) and that is how aids got started. Then some gay steward(flight attendent caught it from the monkey lover or one of the monkey lovers lover. Then he was very promiscuous and when he flew to different cities he would sleep with a bunch of different guys. The bad part if I remember right he even knew he had it and slept around anyway. Anyway that is why it spread so fast because he took aids on tour so to speak.

Well do I got it wrong or is there some truth it my understanding of it?
 
I think Leviticus talks about Flight Attendants being evil and dirty..

11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you
 
Curling, you are close....... the african got the virus from being exposed to monkey blood, most likely while butchering it to eat.

The book 'And the Band Played On' cronicles the airline steward who was/is considered patient X.
 
curling said:
This is what I have heard about how aids got started is this all correct, part correct or totally wrong.

I heard that some dude did with a monkey or an ape or something in africa(guess he believed in evolution thought he was just doing a decent relative) and that is how aids got started. Then some gay steward(flight attendent caught it from the monkey lover or one of the monkey lovers lover. Then he was very promiscuous and when he flew to different cities he would sleep with a bunch of different guys. The bad part if I remember right he even knew he had it and slept around anyway. Anyway that is why it spread so fast because he took aids on tour so to speak.

Well do I got it wrong or is there some truth it my understanding of it?
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theory is that the bicentennial celebration in 76 which brought thousands from distant lands into new york harbor was the genesis of the spread
the guy you speak of(I can't recall his name at the moment) is the most notorious vector
but you can imagine many more leaving the new york area after july 76 celebration and returning home
I read "And the Band Played On" a few years ago
it details the early years of the AIDs cirsis
bottom line
many got infected before anyone knew something was amiss
 
Hengst said:
Curling, you are close....... the african got the virus from being exposed to monkey blood, most likely while butchering it to eat.

The book 'And the Band Played On' cronicles the airline steward who was/is considered patient X.
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they did a great movie version of that too... i was surprised how they captured the book.
 
curling said:
This is what I have heard about how aids got started is this all correct, part correct or totally wrong.

I heard that some dude did with a monkey or an ape or something in africa(guess he believed in evolution thought he was just doing a decent relative) and that is how aids got started. Then some gay steward(flight attendent caught it from the monkey lover or one of the monkey lovers lover. Then he was very promiscuous and when he flew to different cities he would sleep with a bunch of different guys. The bad part if I remember right he even knew he had it and slept around anyway. Anyway that is why it spread so fast because he took aids on tour so to speak.

Well do I got it wrong or is there some truth it my understanding of it?
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The first recorded case of AIDS was a seaman who died in the late 50's I believe. They didnt know back then why but in the early 90's they did an autopsy to several suspicous corpse and this one ended up has being being the first one.
 
It came from SIV, simmian immunodeficiency virus that is present in monkeys and apes, our closest cousins evolutionarily speaking, since we are so similar genetically when they killed and harvested these primates(something that you are too) they came into contact with their blood and was infected with with SIV which then mutated into a more potent virus(There's your evolution morons for those who say why dont we things changing in front of our eyes, b/c time is sped in viral worlds allowing it to be seen in real time). So it evolved into HIV and HIV continues to evolve in almost every new person the dna changes and you can track it back and who infected who, thats science and why science isnt bad and science is working on the cure, find the cure to HIV in your bible and dismiss evolution and science out of hand and thats a sin, says that in the bible that you dont understand and dont help your fellow man. So God gives us HIV for killing our nearest relative on the evolutionary tree, now boys and girls, thats karma.
 
According to some sources, there WAS supposedly a guy that singly was responsible for widely spreading the disease way back when it was still relatively unknown (like in the 60s or 70s). Supposedly he did know he had something and did travel to lots of high homosexual activity areas across the US, canada and I think the world, having sex with lots of random unsuspecting dudes and spreading the disease. Supposedly he infected hundreds of people with it. If I remember right, they think he was french or french canadian or something.

He wasn't the first case, by a long shot, and he was probably one of the worst kinds of scum, but he didn't have sex with any monkeys man.

The disease existed for some time (decades) before we ever knew about it.
 
Youre talking about Patient Zero, a gay/bisexual flight attendant that spread the disease as he travelled and had unprotected sex with numerous people, they traced his path and it lead to the Gay community in San Francisco and spread like wildfire in the Gay community b/c anal sex tears the anus and in these microtears the HIV is much easier to gain access. Also it piggybacks on top of STDs b/c of the immune response to the STD it allows HIV to infect those cells making it easier to infect. Homosexual sex spread HIV and then it got into the Heroin and IV drug user circle and those that spread it through sharing needles, then it filtered into the heterosexual circles. It goes on and on. I was a certified red cross HIV/aids instructor. I know the whole history of it but I have to go to work. Tata
 
curling said:
This is what I have heard about how aids got started is this all correct, part correct or totally wrong.

I heard that some dude did with a monkey or an ape or something in africa(guess he believed in evolution thought he was just doing a decent relative) and that is how aids got started. Then some gay steward(flight attendent caught it from the monkey lover or one of the monkey lovers lover. Then he was very promiscuous and when he flew to different cities he would sleep with a bunch of different guys. The bad part if I remember right he even knew he had it and slept around anyway. Anyway that is why it spread so fast because he took aids on tour so to speak.

Well do I got it wrong or is there some truth it my understanding of it?
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sounds about right to me
 
luciasbrown said:
Youre talking about Patient Zero, a gay/bisexual flight attendant that spread the disease as he travelled and had unprotected sex with numerous people, they traced his path and it lead to the Gay community in San Francisco and spread like wildfire in the Gay community b/c anal sex tears the anus and in these microtears the HIV is much easier to gain access. Also it piggybacks on top of STDs b/c of the immune response to the STD it allows HIV to infect those cells making it easier to infect. Homosexual sex spread HIV and then it got into the Heroin and IV drug user circle and those that spread it through sharing needles, then it filtered into the heterosexual circles. It goes on and on. I was a certified red cross HIV/aids instructor. I know the whole history of it but I have to go to work. Tata
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anal sex tears the anus?
i didnt know that
 
luciasbrown said:
It came from SIV, simmian immunodeficiency virus that is present in monkeys and apes, our closest cousins evolutionarily speaking, since we are so similar genetically when they killed and harvested these primates(something that you are too) they came into contact with their blood and was infected with with SIV which then mutated into a more potent virus(There's your evolution morons for those who say why dont we things changing in front of our eyes, b/c time is sped in viral worlds allowing it to be seen in real time). So it evolved into HIV and HIV continues to evolve in almost every new person the dna changes and you can track it back and who infected who, thats science and why science isnt bad and science is working on the cure, find the cure to HIV in your bible and dismiss evolution and science out of hand and thats a sin, says that in the bible that you dont understand and dont help your fellow man. So God gives us HIV for killing our nearest relative on the evolutionary tree, now boys and girls, thats karma.
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morons? have fun spending eternity in hell..
 
SoKlueles said:
anal sex tears the anus?
i didnt know that
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micropenises don't do any tearing.
 
curling said:
They hunt and eat monkeys? That is weird. Africa is one barbaric backwards ass country.
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Africa is not a country, it is a continent. There are many other cultures that eat monkey. That being said, there are cultures and citizens that live in the countries that make up the continent of Africa that do not eat monkey.

Oh, and I think Hindu's think the same thing about us for eating cattle.
 
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Smurfy said:
Im pretty sure the anus wasnt meant to be fucked LOL
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AAP might disagree.
 
4everhung said:
do monkeys have anal sex?
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Homosexuality, in monkeys, can be defined as pair bonding and sex occurring between two or more members of the same sex in the same specie.

Just as in humans, monkeys often form long-term same-sex relationships. Homosexuality in monkeys often, even usually, involves pair bonding as deep and as long-lasting as between members of heterosexual couples.

The human pattern of bisexuality also appears in non-human primates. In some cases, the monkeys prefer same sex, but then change to heterosexuality later. The monkeys may even change back and forth, and in some cases, the monkeys seek sex with partners of either sex at random

Some monkeys have a seasonal breeding pattern, and homosexuality can therefore be seasonal. Male capuchins, for example, often form homosexual pair bonds and have sex with each other outside of the breeding season, but will revert to a heterosexual pattern during the normal breeding season. Young Capuchin males commonly suck and fondle the scrotum of older males.

Proboscis Monkeys and Golden Monkeys indulge in regular male homosexual mounting. This is often interspersed with masturbation, in which the mounted male stimulates his penis with his hand. Amongst Orang-utans sexual bonding between younger animals of the same sex occurs frequently. Pig-tailed and Crested-black Macaque males use a number of ritualised erotic “greeting” gestures with one another. This includes embracing; face-licking or kissing; fondling or the grabbing of the erected penis; mounting and rump fingering. Both male and female Stumptail Macaques, on the other hand, are known to form intense sexual friendships with the same sex. These same sex friendships may be of the similar age, or one individual may be considerably younger than the other.

Our closest living relatives, the bonobo chimpanzees are 100%. bisexual. The bonobo is sometimes called the “free love” species, as they seem happy to have sex all the time, both heterosexual and homosexual.

They seem to use sex for many different purposes such as when they welcome a new individual to the group; convince an individual to share food; or simply when they express exuberance over the discovery of a favourite fruit tree.

It is interesting that the chimpanzee specie is similar to the human in that they see sex not just as a way in which to reproduce, but also as a social mechanism.

Homosexual monkeys don’t necessarily pair-bond. Some chose to have promiscuous, anonymous sex and don’t want to be involved in long-term relationships with other monkeys.
 
Becoming said:
Our closest living relatives, the bonobo chimpanzees are 100%. bisexual. The bonobo is sometimes called the “free love” species, as they seem happy to have sex all the time, both heterosexual and homosexual.

They seem to use sex for many different purposes such as when they welcome a new individual to the group
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Hey welcome! Now I am gonna bang you in the ass!

Kind of like the bomb squad I guess...
 
curling said:
They hunt and eat monkeys? That is weird. Africa is one barbaric backwards ass country.
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Once again, Curly shows why is the dumbest primate to walk on two feet.
 
Raina said:
It sure sounds like a story made up by 12 year old boys doesn't it?
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im with you...i like the govmnt conspiracy theory alot better, as it was implemented for population control-....whatever.
 
Becoming said:
Hey welcome! Now I am gonna bang you in the ass!

Kind of like the bomb squad I guess...
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lol.. dude don't compare the squad to bisexual monkeys!

And lol @ the dude spreading aids being canadian.. I totally would have guessed that.

And smurfy, I'm pretty sure the anus is up for grabs when it comes to fucking (females for me only please)
 
Lestat said:
lol.. dude don't compare the squad to bisexual monkeys!

And lol @ the dude spreading aids being canadian.. I totally would have guessed that.

And smurfy, I'm pretty sure the anus is up for grabs when it comes to fucking (females for me only please)
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The guy was a french teacher who spent time in Haiti (oh what a coincidence) and got AIDS probably around 1977. But that's one among many others. There isn't a real "zero patient".
 
LOL... who in their right mind would fuck a monkey. I mean a hand job maybe.. but fucking one.. no way! :)
 
PBR said:
im with you...i like the govmnt conspiracy theory alot better, as it was implemented for population control-....whatever.
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I'm with you too. Too funny how so many believe you can track it down to one single person in one single moment in time. Patient zero? Gimme a break. How in the hell do you track whom had sex with whom? Fools.

It most likely is a government conspiracy intended for population control. I'm pretty sure a cure already exists.
 
the whole Monkey man stewardess, thing is in a movie i think.

its either that or Ebola HA!

The whole Aids and gay thing is Men have more Sex, so two men are generally gonna go at it more then a man and a woman.

I know i hear my woman bitch about it all the dam time.
 
SoKlueles said:
anal sex tears the anus?
i didnt know that
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Only if you do it wrong.
With someone that knows what they are doing, it's been said that it can be more pleasurable than vaginal sex.
 
okay ...I have read many different versions on how the HIV virus came about. Most of which sound rather rediculous. No one really does know exactly how it began, or how it mutated. The fact is that it is here today.
I guess the reason for it uprise these days is partly because of ignorant thinking. No one wants to get it, but they sure do love to make jokes about it....sad.

BBB :rainbow:
 
There's a 40something guy at my job that is truly a swinging single. Sex with anybody, almost anytime. Sometimes won't screw but will do anything else, 'cause it's safer'.
NEVER wears protection. Says if he can't go without rubber, then he's not goin a'tall.
Dumbass
 
lol

Why can't you guys just accept the fact that some guy fucked a monkey in Africa and got some preversion of HIV. People fuck animals ok? Everything have to seem "politically correct". Monkey harvesting, etc is just BS.

And about anal sex, first time i had anal sex with my fuck buddy she dumped me. So great periods of time, research and discussions later, I learned how to do it right and frankly i am fond of it and so is my girlfriend.

And soklu, anal tears are inevitable if u are having anal sex. It is the nature of the anus. Skill of your partner will determine tear/pleasure ratio. It sometimes happens when taking a big shit or constipated. Thats how one gets various forms of anal infections.
 
it was started by a middle aged couple who had sex with their 2 daughters 3 feet away in the same room.
 
surprisingly people are still running around saying AIDS is a punishment from god for deviant behavoir. maybe it makes them feel superior saying that but disease does not come from some sort of higher power or god.

rather it is nature just doing its thing to keep population in check. noone said nature cannot be cruel.

as world population explodes and we explore and inhabit parts of the world we have not lived before we are bound to come across new microorganisms. some we are not immune to or have medications to remedy.

with airplanes disease can easily spread in a matter of hours to another continent and spread. if a cure for AIDS is ever found, there will be another deadly virus or bacteria eventually. may even be a new strain of one that we have found the "cure" for.
 
Hengst said:
Curling, you are close....... the african got the virus from being exposed to monkey blood, most likely while butchering it to eat.
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a stronger theory is that HIV was introduced to humans in the 50s while scientist were working on a vaccine for polio. monkey blood was ingested by volunteers in the hope of founding a cure for the then incurable polio.

monkeys had successfully adapted to live with HIV. maybe in a few generations humans will also.

60 minutes did a story on this a while back. they showed numerous doctors reports of strange, unexplained deaths in 60s and 70s that now appear to be AIDS. at the time there was no knowledge of HIV. death certificates listed causes of death as pneumonia, or cancer...
 
glennds said:
a stronger theory is that HIV was introduced to humans in the 50s while scientist were working on a vaccine for polio. monkey blood was ingested by volunteers in the hope of founding a cure for the then incurable polio.
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This has been largely debunked, since they looked at stored samples used to make the vaccine and found no HIV. Transmission through the butchering of monkeys is still the most plausible theory, and that first transmission probably happened before 1930.

Regarding "Patient Zero," while it is true that Gaëtan Dugas had sexual contact with many of the first people diagnosed with AIDS in the U.S., it is unlikely that he infected them, since it usually takes a number of years after infection to show symptoms. The only thing he can claim is that he was linked to many of the first cases - whether he infected them or vice versa is not known.
 
marknyc said:
This has been largely debunked, since they looked at stored samples used to make the vaccine and found no HIV. Transmission through the butchering of monkeys is still the most plausible theory, and that first transmission probably happened before 1930.
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didn't hear that mark. interesting. makes you wonder how many death certificates were signed by doctors from HIV related deaths listing other, or unknown causes, before the virus was identified.
 
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