Is this a good cycle for a beginner?

[batgirl]

this is for my cousin a male first time user. I told him to do a

Wk 1-6 Anavar 30mg ED , Wk4-7 Winny 25mg ED and Wk 7-10 200mg of Primo a week.
Now I figured the Clomid should start Wk. 8-10 since he won't have to wait for Primo to finish since it really won't mess with his HPTA right? I figured the week after last winny he should start the clomid any sopinion?

 

[Zyglamail]

You prolly want to start clomid the day after your last winny. Its real fast acting/short lived.

 

[Torch]

I would run the primo all the way through, at such a low dosage you (he) will need it

 

[pgerardone]

Just do some test. All these drugs are weak and expensive. He would get better results fro 400-600 mgs of test a week and it would be an 1/8 of the cost.

 

[batgirl]

yeah i actually told him to forget the Primo and save it until he gets more so i told im to stick to the winny and anavar and no test pgerardone its his first cycle and he does't need test start of withthe simply stuff and work his way up eventually. If winny wirks well for him then he'll use it again with deca and maybe EQ then later go to test like 3 or 4 cycle

 

[Zyglamail]

If winny wirks well for him then he'll use it again with deca and maybe EQ then later go to test like 3 or 4 cycle

So where does tren fit in ....tren, MMmm, MMMmmm, good

 

[batgirl]

don't know much about tren since i'm female what is it a test? he's lookin for strengthbut not too much weight and cardio improvement

 

[Zyglamail]

I was just teasing batgirl. Trenbolone acetate (otherwise known as fina) is basically the same as parabolin but has a shorter ester. Its not for those with a fear of pins since ED inj are recommended but EOD will do. Its awesome for strength and very good lean muscle mass. No bloat, kind to the hair and BP and does not aromatize. Its main drawback is it shuts down hpta real fast and real hard and can cause progesterone related sides(like deca, but usually not as bad). Winny helps to block PR receptors and the two work wonderfully together.

 

[batgirl]

they should make Fina in tablet form

 

[TxLonghorn]

they should make Fina in tablet form

lol, well they already make it in pellet form.

 

[batgirl]

pellet form? taste like shit? you buy it in pellet or youmak it yourself? by the way Fina is for cows right? is that considered a TEST? i mean compare to winny

 

[psroth]

Hey batgirl, they do make fina in tab form - though rarely is taken that way, usually, we mix it with a transdermal liquid and absorb the powdered tabs through the skin.

Back to your cousing though, I would definitely back away from the 200mg of primo, because while that will work just fine for women, it does practically nothing for men. Also, Anavar has to be taken so often and in so high of a dosage for men that it becomes very toxic to the liver, and not really all that effective, not to mention extremely expensive.

Honestly, his best bet would be to do a 10 week cycle of 400mg deca each week - and the last six weeks do 50mg of winny tabs ED. Doing winny without Deca can become quite painful on the joints. This whole cycle will be much cheaper, significantly safer, keep more gains, and actually make better more quality gains than the cycle you mention.

Hope this helps!

 

[Zyglamail]

pellet form? taste like shit? you buy it in pellet or youmak it yourself? by the way Fina is for cows right? is that considered a TEST? i mean compare to winny

Yes, its obtianed mainly from the cattle implants but it is not very bioavailable. Oral absorbtion rates are real low. Transdermal methods work, but also lack absorbtion. The pellets can be easily converted to an injectable or there are a couple pcompanies making premade stuff as well. Its not a test, its really in a class by itself. "gear of the Gods" as Tx likes to call it

 

[batgirl]

screw that cattle implants lol is that oil based or water based hey psroth he won't take deca due to that it stays in the system too long and drug test. unless he take the fast acting deca right?

 

[macDbol]

why give him gear thats safe to take if your a woman? astleast have deca or test as a base..or both

 

[ultragainz]

that guy is a pussy.....tell him after all the roids he tkaes and he well still be built like a insect.......j/k....yea its a good cycle you could give him test instead of primo test at 400mgs is good...but the primo is good in there...

 

[serge]

i dont like it, would be expensive and not very effective cycle

 

[ultragainz]

take creatine with anavar...i say this is good...anavar for 6-8 weeks test for 10 weeks...winny at the last 4-6 weeks...add some deca or eq in the cycle at 300mgs...but your cycle looks fine..

 

[psroth]

If he's worried about drug testing at his job, tell him not to worry cause they never test for steroids on those test. They only test for pot, barbs, cocaine - you know, the usual shit. They don't even test for ecstasy, K, G, any of that. So they DEFINITELY do not test for steroids.

 

[psroth]

If he's worried about drug testing at his job, tell him not to worry cause they never test for steroids on those test. They only test for pot, barbs, cocaine - you know, the usual shit. They don't even test for ecstasy, K, G, any of that. So they DEFINITELY do not test for steroids.

As for ultragainz, shut up asshole! Did you not hear her original request? This is for a beginner, not some inflated moron like yourself. I know you probably love Abombs and dbol cycles to watch your hair fall out, tits grow, and liver waiving a white flag - but not everyone is as moronic as you.

 

[batgirl]

then maybe i'll tell him to add a little deca to assist the sides of winny is 100mg a week ok just for the joints or 200 he needs?

 

[psroth]

Good question. I don't if anyone really knows the answer to that one, because I don't think that anyone has ever taken deca purely to alleviate joint pain and not to grow.

400mg of deca per week will only cost around $16 per week and 6 weeks of winny @ 50mg ED is only around $80 for the whole cycle.

For a first timer, this will yield very high quality gains. He won't get all bubbly and bloated looking from this cycle. There is very little water retention so his gains will be easily kept with a little clomid.

Anything else?

 

[pgerardone]

no test pgerardone its his first cycle and he does't need test start off

[/B]

What is the phobia against test? Every steroid is a derivative of testosterone anyway. And unless taken at high doses it is safe and has little side effects. A little bit of test(500mg or so a week) is probably the best first cycle you could do. The results will be good and the side effects minimal at a reasonable dose.
Instead you want him to take three different anabolics at the same time as a first cycle?? Does not make much sense.

 

[hamper19]

You really think 50mg/day winny for 6 weeks only costs $80?

 

[mlomker]

You really think 50mg/day winny for 6 weeks only costs $80?

No kidding. More like $900 around here.

 

[wrj]

50MG ED FOR 6 WKS COSTS LIKE 450 IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS!

WRJ

 

[psroth]

I've been getting 20 x 50mg tabs for $30 for a 6 week cycle is about $60.

 

[Mr.Zone]

batgirl

His first cycle I would keep things simple...wk 1-10 sust 500mg ...throw in arimidix and clomid wks 13 -15 thats it...I think he will be very happy with the results.

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[dumblucky]

Well fellas I would jsut let him go with a really mild firsst cycle and go the expensive route . winny , anavar etc. Then he will gain 5 pounds of good muscle..
when he gets to lookin in the mirror and want to put put on some real weight.

TREN AND TEST ........YEA BABY

 

[notpuff]

psroth think this will yield good gains for my first ever cycle 400mg test weekly, fina 75 mg eod only problem is i cant find any clomid, jes a note i eat liek a horse and on top of that take metrx shakes i also take amino pills every 2 hourse

 

[hard]

Just do some test. All these drugs are weak and expensive. He would get better results fro 400-600 mgs of test a week and it would be an 1/8 of the cost.

test plus 75mg/day of fina for weeks 6-10 with liquidex and proviron throughout for protection would do much better.