Is there a way to get someone's SS#?

[Werd]

No offense -- but i'd like to hear his side too.

I bet he's just as hot-headed as you. Boy would i love to sit on your divorce/custody cases! Must be drama city!!!! Who needs Soap Operas!!!

No offense taken.

I am anything BUT a hothead.

I got a final order of protection in the midst of any ugly divorce. They dont give those out easily AT ALL, matter of fact, they are NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to acquire in such situations, especially with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER - just his word against mine. THE JUDGE took custody from him... I did NOT request it. One would think he must have done some pretty awful shit, no?

I was too fucked up to understand the gravity of this sitch.

He had them FULL TIME (nearly completely cut the kids off from me and my family) for SIX MONTHS. When I returned and learned what was REALLY going on, he came at me with both barrells legally. The courts had no choice but to "side with him" but were "fair" with me. My contact with the children over the next 6 months was EXTREMELY LIMITED.

HE HAD ALL THE MONEY - I DONT HAVE SQUAT.

Yet ALL THE KIDS stood up to the police, school administrators AND psychologists and said, "I WANT TO LIVE WITH MY MOMMY." He had to have them physically removed by police to "enforce his custodial rights" SEVERAL TIMES.

If he was doing SUCH a great job.... how do you explain THESE FACTS?!

I never ever raise my voice... nor do I yell and scream. I dont throw things. I have a smile on my face 99% of the time and am extremely congenial and pleasant to everyone. NO ONE can believe that I haven't gone off the deep and and 86'd this motherfucker for all he has done to the kids.

But please, do explain how it "could be" that all the kids (all old enough to know better - ie - who is REALLY treating them like shit and who is "shit-talking") could have been THAT DEFIANT to so many authority figures if HE was soooooooooo great and I was a neglectful, drinking, drug addict whore that abandons them to fuck all sorts of men (as he has alleged for nearly 4 years)?.... especially when I dont have two nickels to rub together?

 

[Razorguns]

You need a good lawyer. That's all i gotta say. Unfortunately in teh courtroom, he who shouts the loudest, and makes the most blanketed accusations and pure biased hearsay doesn't necessarily win. Most judges look right past the obvious shit-talkin'.

Your lawyer needs to organize points and provide proof of everything.

 

[Werd]

You need a good lawyer. That's all i gotta say. Unfortunately in teh courtroom, he who shouts the loudest, and makes the most blanketed accusations and pure biased hearsay doesn't necessarily win. Most judges look right past the obvious shit-talkin'.

Your lawyer needs to organize points and provide proof of everything.

I wont diagree with you there. Check and double check on everything.

The fact remains that I have custody by default it is just that the bastard wont sign a formal agreement and started lying about his income and expenses right out of the gate.

I will NEVER recoup what I gave up in the divorce settlement. I get NOTHING for investing 13 years of my life as dutiful wife and mother.... that is nothing FINANCIALLY - I have my kids and thats all I ever cared about to begin with, but now I will make sure that THEY get what THEY are entitled to - PERIOD.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Yep, I would love to hear both sides of this story. Nothing personal against you Werd, its just due to your own personal biases (or even details you do not know about on his part) we may not be getting all the facts here. Generally in this sort of thing, when you hear both sides of the story, all perspectives of the parties involved, a more truthful picture can be painted.

 

[Werd]

Nothing personal taken...

This isn't about "his side" or "my side". There is only ONE SIDE = the side of the children involved and they have made it abundantly clear what THEY want.

THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO TV, COMPUTER, FANCY ANYTHING...

HE HAS A 44K HOUSE, BUILT IN POOL, MORE MONEY THAN GOD (OR AT LEAST ENOUGH FOR GOBS OF ATTORNEYS).

The children only want someone to listen to THEM... You have no idea what it did to me to watch my little kids defiantly stand up to BIG uniformed police, school administrators, shrinks, etc (I raised my kids to be VERY respectful of authority but I also told them to go with their gut - that regardless of WHO it was that was telling them to do something if that little voice inside told them to be defiant - I would back them 100% no questions asked.). I couldn't even hold their hand or put my arm around them as it could have been construed as an act of defiance on my part. My one little kid nearly turned my arm purple they squeezed it so hard not wanting to let go. The cops had to trick them into leaving me. I told them it was ok, that I knew they loved me and the adults would figure this mess out. I told them to get dressed and go to school, that we would figure this out in the court.

THEY ALL SAID NO!

It wasn't that they didn't trust me. But a combination of watching their father lie and my poor legal representation seeing me helplessly raked over the coals for the last near 4 years has made them angry and impatient. They have had enough so they have stood up.

If I was even to *attempt* to keep them from their father believe you me, there is not a room that could hold them, as their father could neither find one to hold them and keep them from me.

Remember - HE has been the sole custodial parent for OVER ONE YEAR - almost NO CONTACT from me for over 6 months and EXTREMELY limited, even supervised contact for several more.

After all that time ow on earth could I have manipulated SEVERAL kids with little or no contact if their father was doing SUCH a good job? Wont go over real well in court. I was declared FIT in the beginning of summer and the judge wanted to reunite us THEN - BUT I wasnt able to get my own apartment until about 2 weeks after we went to court for that round and could neither pay my half-ass lawyer to return to enforce THAT order.

No "normalcy" was restored till the kids stood up and said, "We are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more." And believe you me, it isn't easy parenting several angry kids, but at least now they have a shot at coming out of all this mess ok. <---THAT was and always will be my main priority and not my asshole ex. Whereas all he ever cared about was using the kids to fuck with me for finally growing a set and kicking his abusive ass to the curb.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Nothing personal taken...

THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO TV, COMPUTER, FANCY ANYTHING...

You post a lot on the internet for someone without a computer.

 

[gymrat]

i almost forgot about these long ass posts, and over use of CAPS!

lol

 

[Werd]

You post a lot on the internet for someone without a computer.

You post-stalking me there "BIG" guy? LOL Please define "a lot".

OO looky, you managed to noticed by a purty girl for like a second and a half. Just remember not to tell any others what lies beneath and you'll be good to go for like another second er two. Perhaps even long enough for them to actually tell you the time of day.

*NARF*