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Is suicide my best option?

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stuffperson

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I just graduated from college with a degree in Psychology. There actually are a few good jobs in my area I would be pleased doing, even though non usually pay more than 20k/year.

The one I am currently after (since i didn't get any of the ones I would have preferred) pays about 15,800/year, of which I would be getting robbed in this manner for being a counselor in an inpatient mental health hospital. The folks there are only in for a short stay, to stabilize them from mostly suicidal or homicidal intentions. I will have to learn self defense, how to restrain the "clients", and how to use restraining devices (aka tie them to beds and whatnot). I took a tour of the place, and to be honest, it is quite frightening. Regardless, I have to have income and am applying to graduate school so that I may in the upcoming years be able to still do psych related work without having to deal with the batshit crazy population.

I was always given an image of that when one graduates from college, you have lots of job options and you are payed well. Now I have the option of ext. low pay or going back for MORE schooling and making a living that could maybe support myself and one other person w/o any luxuries.

Is my best option really suicide or should I pursue my candle business as an alternative?
 
Its a tough economy now, with psych though I would def. say go on to grad school. Only a few more years of your time and the $$ will be worth it
 
Onerepmaximum - Since you didn't read my post, I want you to know that you have truly missed out on the makings of something big.
 
I went back and read it. Just messing about the suicide thing. As it turns out, I know a girl who has a degree in psychology. She said that once you get your masters, the money is way better. She said it is definitely worth getting. She wants to do art therapy with children, but where we live it is not the best place to be for that (apparently). I guess the New York area is a good place for that particular thing. But back to my point. The pay does suck pretty bad until you get your masters.
 
On the flip side, would anyone here actually think this was a cool job? If I get it, I will report back periodically as to whether anyone goes silence of the lambs on me.
 
stuffperson said:
On the flip side, would anyone here actually think this was a cool job? If I get it, I will report back periodically as to whether anyone goes silence of the lambs on me.
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I think it takes a different kind of person to be a psychologist/counselor. I don't think I would have the patience for it.
 
stuffperson said:

I was always given an image of that when one graduates from college, you have lots of job options and you are payed well. Now I have the option of ext. low pay or going back for MORE schooling and making a living that could maybe support myself and one other person w/o any luxuries.
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Not true right now. I know MBA's working at Best Buy in this job environment, who were making 100k 5 years ago.

BTW somebody should have told you college grads with psych degrees usually can't find any jobs except as counselors or in some unrelated field.
 
stuffperson said:
At least give me a little more reason to push me over the edge.
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You're dumb and you smell.
 
BTW somebody should have told you college grads with psych degrees usually can't find any jobs except as counselors or in some unrelated field.
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I dont really have any friends/acquaintences, so no one was available to tell me this anyways. Counseling is all good for me, just with the exceptions of certain types of patients, the people in for bipolar usually seemed as if they were in need of a good strangling. I like working with the addicts though, even though they usually dissapoint by going back to smack, crack, or whatever. I guess I am really just typing all this for my own good.
 
A bachelor's in psychology is pretty worthless. You'll need a doctorate to get a passable job in the field.

My BA in Anthropology is similarly worthless.

I suggest a career in used car sales, or insurance.
 
dude stuffperson should get a job as a FBI profiler. because then he could meet the broad who was in the show "Profiler". man she was fucking hot.
 
stuffperson said:
I was always given an image of that when one graduates from college, you have lots of job options and you are payed well. Now I have the option of ext. low pay or going back for MORE schooling and making a living that could maybe support myself and one other person w/o any luxuries.
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Your income is dependant upon the value you produce to the economy.

The sooner you recognize that no one owes you a damn thing and you have to make your own way producing real value, the better off you will be.

Stop complaining. Start thinking. Start creating value.
 
I must have misunderstood. $15,000 a year with a degree. You could go to Jack in the Box and make that. Maybe you said $50,000.
 
Synpax - I am not coming off arrogant at all, realize that I have yet to do anything truly important as far as actually working, but its good to get a hardass viewpoint such as yours.

MFMan, you read right, just under 16k/year. I could keep looking for way to make more, or I could settlle for peanuts and some experience while looking for ways to make more.
 
There are 2 people in my batallion who recently tried to off themselves. Both failed. Here is my question If a person thinks that they suck at everything they do, and want to kill themself, then what do they do if they fail that?

I mean they have to live the rest of their lives knowing that they can't even kill themselves without fucking that up, and they think they suck at everything else so there is no point in living yet can't kill themselves b/c they fail at that.

I'm not trying to make light of suicide, and I think that there isn't a good reason for it 99% of the time. Just wondering.
 
Rex said:
There are 2 people in my batallion who recently tried to off themselves. Both failed. Here is my question If a person thinks that they suck at everything they do, and want to kill themself, then what do they do if they fail that?

I mean they have to live the rest of their lives knowing that they can't even kill themselves without fucking that up, and they think they suck at everything else so there is no point in living yet can't kill themselves b/c they fail at that.

I'm not trying to make light of suicide, and I think that there isn't a good reason for it 99% of the time. Just wondering.
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Tell them to try something like this...

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Hard to fail at that.
 
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stuffperson, do you live the 'alternate lifestyle' ? just wondering, it's just a correlation i'm trying to make between:

guy ---- psychology degree
 
Deus - what are you asking: Do I dress like a punk - or do I dine upon pork sword?

In the case that you are making fun of me, I thought you were cool up until just then.
 
16K, you gotta be fucking kidding me!

The peeps at the mental hospital make like 17 an hour and they don't have any degrees at all. And the place even sends them to school.
 
stuffperson said:
Deus - what are you asking: Do I dress like a punk - or do I dine upon pork sword?

In the case that you are making fun of me, I thought you were cool up until just then.
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it was an honest question.

some guys i know who majored in psych are that way... just wanted to see if the major matches the person.

carry on
 
Nah, I despise the current punk trend, and I dont suck ham. Your question 100% pertains the art buildings where i went to college. Good lord, a few cool folks there but there were more tools than Sears.
 
I live in Cali bro.

I am just saying you would be seriously fucking yourself if you took that kind of pay. think about it, that's like 8 dollars an hour. I truly wish you the best though.
 
8.25/hour to be exact, and it sucks aardvark bung. I will check with the local state hospital- its just that where I'm maybe getting a job with now has some bonkers, but the state hosp. is where the batshit crazy folk go, not that there will probably be much of a difference. Thanks dude, I'll check into it, as I feel that working for less than 10/hour right now is robbing myself.
 
Dude the guy sweeping the floors will be making more money than you. The pizza delivery guy that you order food from at work will be making more than you... OK that`s enough.

I thought psych related jobs generally payed more. Guess not. I know someone in the rehab field whose job pays about 60k, for the same job in a psych setting the job pays 72k, big difference. They were offered both jobs but declined the psych because they are..... CRAZY! lol You REALLY need to know self defence when doing that work bro. Among a lot of other stuff they do to you daily.

good luck I say keep going to school.
 
Suicide is never an option in a case like yours. Pull yourself together and get yourself through this. You know what you have to do. Do it. No questions. I had to go back to school, and now I owe $20,000. Otherwise I would have done construction the rest of my life. Get out there, no complaining.
 
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