Is MARRIAGE becoming an OUTDATED institution?

[Rex]

Re: Re: Re: Is MARRIAGE becoming an OUTDATED institution?

Many conservatives argue that the typical family will solve many of our society's ills, they have been proven wrong time and time again.

I'll agree with you on this Ryan. I'm from a "broken home" with divorced parents. I do not have a criminal record, I do not use illegal drugs. I know many kids who have both parents married, and are delinquents [sp?]. I don't think it matters if the parents are married. What matters is that the parents parent.

On the topic of marraige: I don't think it matters if people have a child[ren] out of wed lock [I think I used that in the right context]. Just as long as they fucking parent. I, personally, would like to be married one day. I don't force my views/lifestyle on anyone, and refuse to have it forced on me. If you want to get married, fine. If not, fine. But if you have children, then parent them.

 

[kd]

Im failing to make the connection.

From what little I have read:

The main reason marriage become popular starting in the 1200's
was that it helped promote population growth.

A big part of that was because of life expectancy.

Think about it. You were going to live to 35 if you hit avg, less if you weren't so lucky. Would'nt you want to "settle down" a little sooner and get serious?. Have some kids before you bit the dust? I suppose for some, roaming the land killing and raping worked for them, but others wanted to try something new called getting "married"

The circumstance, values, and lifestyle of people around the 1200's was very different vs today.

I'll use myself as an example. I'm in my mid 30's. I've been divorced 2 years. Marriage did not turn out to be a good thing for me. Getting divorced was the right thing to do in my case. I figure I have 20 good years left, then 15 or so before I'm tulip fertilizer.

If I lived in the 1200s I would be either on my death bed now, or already dead. If I was still alive, would I bother to end my marriage now at this age?...probably not.

It was a good idea back then to promote the population growth I suppose.

Today that is not a great concern. Most people think
"ME...MY LIFE"....or "I have lots of time to settle down...lol." or
"this marriage did'nt work, maybe I'll try another one and see what happens"

Not too much concern today about whether your race, religion or family will survive, which was important back then. (marriage would promote those things)

The concept was originally based on things that have not much value in todays world.

 

[-SD-]

Marriage for increasing the population doesnt make sense because a man can bang a lot of women and get them pregnant, which makes more children faster.

 

[kd]

Marriage for increasing the population doesnt make sense because a man can bang a lot of women and get them pregnant, which makes more children faster.

lol..

Well, I'm always interested in learning.

Please oh "SUPER ONE". Educate us poor souls here at EF.

Why did marriage become an publicly accepted idea way back then?

thanks

btw - if it was the 1200's and you tried to come into my villiage, and fuck my wife, sister, cousins or people, I"d either kill you or you'd have to kill me..lol...(probably because I would'nt like your race or religion, you'd have to do your own people).

 

[aurelius]

Divorce has been around since marriage has been around but it (marriage) is too easy to get out of it now.

Maybe marriage is too easy to get into. What do you think?

What ever happened to the old saying, "In order to get ahead in life, you must work hard and pay your dues"?

Maybe the old saying just fell into line with reality. In the past did everyone who "worked hard and paid their dues" get what they deserved? Maybe more than now, perhaps.

Did you ask me for my age? I probably missed it. 23.

An intriguing post. Many points of agreement. As is the case when that happens, quicker to mention the points of contention.

all the best

 

[The Dude]

By enacting more equitable laws for single parents and providing more government assistance, Americans too, would finally see that marriage is not always necessary for a healthy society and moreover, the individual can triumph as well, if given the same equal opportunities....

Ryan.

You could not be more wrong. Study after study conclude that successfully married people are happier than other segments of society. They also raise children with fewer behavioral problems in life. Look into it.

 

[-SD-]

lol..

Well, I'm always interested in learning.

Please oh "SUPER ONE". Educate us poor souls here at EF.

Why did marriage become an publicly accepted idea way back then?

thanks

btw - if it was the 1200's and you tried to come into my villiage, and fuck my wife, sister, cousins or people, I"d either kill you or you'd have to kill me..lol...(probably because I would'nt like your race or religion, you'd have to do your own people).

No need to be a smartass. I was referring to marriage not being effective for purely population growth reasons. Marriage became a publicly accepted idea because of religious reasons I would assume, since before that the Greeks and Romans fucked everything that moved.

 

[Zirakzigil]

so who gave me negative karma here and wouldn't even sign it?

 

[aurelius]

Marriage became a publicly accepted idea because of religious reasons I would assume, since before that the Greeks and Romans fucked everything that moved.

so?

 

[-SD-]

so?

So, if a man is monogamous to one woman his whole life, that isnt as effective for population growth as a man having sex with many women and "spreading his seed" so to speak. I was referring to kd's argument that marriage is effective for population growth. Im speaking strictly about the best model for population growth, not against the institution of marriage by the way.