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Is it possible to develop a flex wheeler type physique?
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yeah don't forget all the sauce too. he said he grew sick and tired of DAILY injections for very long periods of time. he is my favorite looking physique of all time. besides arnold. i seen him win the 93 night of champions. he was sliced and diced to the bone w/ perfectly formed full round huge muscles on a small frame. i don't think anyone these days can look like he did then and even as he got older. i've been to many shows and have yet to see what i saw that night.
will b huge
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First of all, with the type of cycles these guys run and with some of the very special ones, you can NEVER reach what they did......IE....NOBODY will ever get a back like DORIAN YATES had, or MANFRED HOEBERL's 25.5 inch ARMS or GREG VALENTINO's supposedly 27 inch arms.......Good luck, but Ken Wheeler is 5'9 235 pounds with 22 inch arms and has one of the best built symmetry-wise the bodybuilding world has ever seen.......Awesome genetics plus $30,000 of unreal cycles per year and Kidney transplants too....
quadkilla31
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For real. That fucker doesn't even need to be in the same sentence with those guys.krishna said:
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satchboogie
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genetics play a huge role in developing a pro like physique.
but if you have teh genetics, its about hard work, dedication, and steroids.. pure and simple theres no magic there.
the pros eat, train, and sleep..
thats it.
their lives, generally speaking, are fairly boring.
kinda like the lives of dogs..eat, sleep, look for pussy (for dogs i suppose thats training).
but if you have teh genetics, its about hard work, dedication, and steroids.. pure and simple theres no magic there.
the pros eat, train, and sleep..
thats it.
their lives, generally speaking, are fairly boring.
kinda like the lives of dogs..eat, sleep, look for pussy (for dogs i suppose thats training).
will b huge
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alltraps said:
Yes, ALLTraps, if you read my post at the top...My last line says "Its called Genetics and $30,000.00 worth of cycles every year......
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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galaxy said:
What? Really...
silverbackn
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Amen! Speak the truth brother!alltraps said:
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You guys are so full of it...everyone knows most bodybuilders are natural. I read that in Flex Magazine. Ken "Flex" Wheeler might have done one or two small cycles of anavar or winstrol, but I can assure you he was natural most of the time, and Ronnie Coleman said on Larry King Live that he is a lifetime natural.
nishnish
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galaxy said:
absolutely. it's depressing really. it's just a freak show. i'm not taking anything away form the sacrifice and dedication it takes to be a good bodybuilder by any stretch; i fully appreciate all it takes. but it is a freakshow pure and simple...
anywyas like everyone said you can't look like flex wheeler unless you are flex wheeler
good thread on bbing and the freak show stuff
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135813
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135813
Extra_Strong
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BodyByFinaplix said:
will b huge
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alltraps said:
Yes, whatever....They didn't share how much with me and I'm sure that received huge discounts and outstanding pricing, etc......but just a point that the amount of drugs going through their system is completely insane.....
sandman_007
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I've heard Tom Prince say the actual amounts of steroids used by pros is much more modest than 30,000-50,000 per year cycles. There are many pros who have children too....Gustavo Badell, Darrem Charles are two i can think of at the top of my head....so obviously they aren't loading so much juice into their system that they become impotent.....at least that's probably true with some
Also, Arnold also had children....and although he used steroids of course, again, it wasn't enough to stop him from having children (and i did read somewhere that that can happen when one uses extreme doses/ abuses steroids)
Also, Arnold also had children....and although he used steroids of course, again, it wasn't enough to stop him from having children (and i did read somewhere that that can happen when one uses extreme doses/ abuses steroids)
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Yeah the prices here are probably overpriced. Anyone who uses that much is going to homebrew or use cheaper stuff. A gram of test a day (7 grams a week) would be maybe $2,000 a year. 12 ius of hgh a day would be your largest expense at about $12,000 a year. So throw in $6k worth of other drugs (500 mg of eq or deca a day, with 100 mg of dbol a day, some t3, letro, insuline etc) and $20K would cover you.
Güclü_oglan
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the most spectacular thing about it is.. how the fuck do these guys make all these injections? they're probadly doing 10cc of sauce every day, of course they have got big muscles that can take alot of volume without problems but in the long run... 15 years on those volumes must be a bitch
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Güclü_oglan said:
400mg/ml test and 400mg/ml of eq or deca. 2.5 cc's of test with 1.5 cc's of deca/eq would only be 4cc's. That is two shots a day. One for the hgh and a couple for the insulin depending on how they use it. 40-50 pills a day are not hard to swallow.
One could get in a gram of test, 600 mg of eq or deca, 100 mg of dbol, 12 ius of hgh, and 60-100 ius of insulin every day, with their ancillaries by doing that, pretty easily.
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well bro, i'm definately sure that they're doing more then 2.5 grams of test a week even tough i have no proof. And i think their stacks consists of more then just deca and testBodyByFinaplix said:
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Güclü_oglan said:
I just said 1 gram A DAY that is 7 grams of test a week. Reread what I just posted.
Güclü_oglan
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i'd guess 400mg/ml test would cause an abcess pretty quickly with the volumes we're speaking ofBodyByFinaplix said:
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Mandinka2 said:
I said if they homebrew. Does anyone read the posts they reply too around here?
Tux
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Yeah, it would take at most, 2cc's a day to get 1g of test per day. 500mg/ml enanthate is painless and not too tough to make if you know what you're doing. 500mg/ml EQ and 400-500mg/ml deca as well. I could take 3cc's/day and get over 10g's a week of drugs in my system, not even counting orals. And homebrewed that wouldn't even cost much. And for 10iu's of GH per day, that's MAYBE 9grand a year. You could use more gear than a pro while spending only 12k a year total, or less. It really isn't THAT pricey if you REALLY know what you're doing, and buy a year or two's worth of growth at once lol! God, I wonder what I'd look like with just 3g's a week and 6iu's of growth? Damn I'd be a freak! As to the original post, you're stuck with your structure. You can maximize strong points and minimize weak points to create the illusion of better structure, but if you're born like Nasser, NOTHING will make you look anything like Flex Wheeler.
It depends on what your genetics are like to build a physique through training and chemical supplementation.
Flex had a great physique before he ruined it with synthol. He could have marketed his old physique for a ton more money than these mass monsters today.
What a pro uses is going to vary just like what people off this board uses. I have posted what Paul Baker's cycle was here before. You know how big Paul Baker is? He is nothing but pure mass. 320lbs. With abs. His dose is laughable. He probably doesn't spend $1000 for the ENTIRE YEAR on his shit.
I also got a complete cycle from Kenny Jones when he came over and gave me a massage a while back. (yeah, he does that shit on the side too.) What he uses in a month, Paul doesn't use all year. Though Ken has some very unique injecting habits. Some I wouldn't mind incorporating but they take an extra person to help you with the injections. Which I don't have.
But the bottom line is if you don't already possess a physique that resembles what you want, you won't possess one after all the drugs in the world. Bigger? Yes. But not a completely different metamorphis.
Flex had a great physique before he ruined it with synthol. He could have marketed his old physique for a ton more money than these mass monsters today.
What a pro uses is going to vary just like what people off this board uses. I have posted what Paul Baker's cycle was here before. You know how big Paul Baker is? He is nothing but pure mass. 320lbs. With abs. His dose is laughable. He probably doesn't spend $1000 for the ENTIRE YEAR on his shit.
I also got a complete cycle from Kenny Jones when he came over and gave me a massage a while back. (yeah, he does that shit on the side too.) What he uses in a month, Paul doesn't use all year. Though Ken has some very unique injecting habits. Some I wouldn't mind incorporating but they take an extra person to help you with the injections. Which I don't have.
But the bottom line is if you don't already possess a physique that resembles what you want, you won't possess one after all the drugs in the world. Bigger? Yes. But not a completely different metamorphis.
nishnish
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i just did a google search on paul baker and got this:
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&start=13&prev=/images?q=Paul+Baker&hl=en&lr=
quite indicative of the discussion that was had here...
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&start=13&prev=/images?q=Paul+Baker&hl=en&lr=
quite indicative of the discussion that was had here...
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galaxy said:
Yep. Who the hell would ever take a "sport/hobby" laden with obvious drug use seriously? Women that look like men.... lol... too funny. It really is a circus show more then anything.
Tux
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Well I just measured my joints... thank god I have small elbows, wrists, knees, and ankles. Even though I can't put on muscle at all b/c i think I have lower # of steroid receptors, what muscle I DO put on will look like more than it is. I guess this winter I'll have to try that 10g's/week cycle and see how huge I get assuming I don't just die 
silverbackn
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Off subject, but Flex's book is awesome. It doesn't have a whole lot to do with bodybuilding or inside information, but it gives you tremendous insight into him as a man and what he's been through. I know I will never think if him the same way. I couldn't put it down.
nishnish said:
Yeah, theres more than a few that have homo erotic shit like that posted. Whos that big dude Sean ? Hes like 6'6" and hes web site is totally flaming.LOL I mean it literally has flames, not to mention hes flaming too.LOL
Oh yeah his name is Sean Allen I believe. He does web came shows too.LOL I mean WTF!
nishnish
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galaxy said:Yeah, theres more than a few that have homo erotic shit like that posted. Whos that big dude Sean ? Hes like 6'6" and hes web site is totally flaming.LOL I mean it literally has flames, not to mention hes flaming too.LOL
Oh yeah his name is Sean Allen I believe. He does web came shows too.LOL I mean WTF!
ugh...
i mena, i don't have a problem with gay people at all; i firmly believe that what you do in your own house is your business as long as nobody gets hurt.
but shit like that demonstrates how hardcore bodybuilding is not and will never be a sport- it's a fucking freakshow full of perverts and depravity; a showcase of masochism and chemical experimentation/exploitation.
damn, reading that makes me feel wierd considering what a big part of my life bodybuilding is... oh well.
i love training and will probably continue to do so for the rest of my life. i will probably also use... but honestly i don't see myself ever going to another show or reading "flex" or whatever. i'm just too jaded honestly.
i briefly trained at the same gym porter cotrell did back in the late 90's, and he used to tell me some seriously fucked up shit about the pros and top level national guys, shit that totally blew me away considering some of the people he told me about were those i actually looked up to.
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