is it obvious when a chick juices?

[p0ink]

i think so. i have seen some chick juicers that look worse than men in drag.

seriously, i really dont get it. i dont care what the benefits were, i would never want to take the hormones of the opposite sex.

ridiculous.

 

[The Shadow]

Totally depends.....

I have seen both types

 

[T-Matt]

Totally depends.....

I have seen both types

I have too..

you would be amazed at what 10mg/d of anavar does to a chick.. completely changes her body composition in 4 weeks.. I saw a stripper go from flabby to fitness model..

chicks on highly androgenic AAS now, that's a different story that I don't care to learn about

 

[heatherrae]

I think there are probably many who juice that you wouldn't know that they juice at all. Just like anything else, some just go too extremes. I agree, though, that I do not like when women alter their vocal range or start getting manly faces. That is probably women who had really bad advice or don't mind those effects, though. Not all female juicers do that.

I bet that most of those figure competitors do a little Var or something, and they are smoking hot.

I'm not really pro steroids. I think everyone here knows that. I just fear that people are hurting their health.

 

[The Shadow]

I think there are probably many who juice that you wouldn't know that they juice at all. Just like anything else, some just go too extremes. I agree, though, that I do not like when women alter their vocal range or start getting manly faces. That is probably women who had really bad advice or don't mind those effects, though. Not all female juicers do that.

I bet that most of those figure competitors do a little Var or something, and they are smoking hot.

I'm not really pro steroids. I think everyone here knows that. I just fear that people are hurting their health.

JUICER ALERT!!

 

[musclemom]

i think so. i have seen some chick juicers that look worse than men in drag.

seriously, i really dont get it. i dont care what the benefits were, i would never want to take the hormones of the opposite sex.

ridiculous.

Frankly, estrogen does suck, so I can't really blame you for not wanting to take female hormones However, IMHO the world would be a much better place if doctors were more open to supplementing women with test., and I think it could enhance more marriages than couples counseling.

That being said, diversity is what makes this world a wonderful place. What you find unattractive, many find erotic. C'est la vie.

 

[heatherrae]

JUICER ALERT!!

I wish. LOL. If I did, maybe I would be as hot as you or Ilk. One of these days, maybe I would. After the baby, if I got in great shape and sort of plateaud and was no longer breast feeding, maybe I would consider it. That is lots of "ifs." LOL

 

[T-Matt]

Frankly, estrogen does suck, so I can't really blame you for not wanting to take female hormones However, IMHO the world would be a much better place if doctors were more open to supplementing women with test., and I think it could enhance more marriages than couples counseling.

That being said, diversity is what makes this world a wonderful place. What you find unattractive, many find erotic. C'est la vie.

I mean this in the most sincere way possible over an internet fitness board..

but..

MM.. will you marry me??

What'll you say we put oxandrolone micronized powder in salt shakers?? Not only will we decrease water retention, we will increase muscle density and hypertrophy.. We could change the world together..

 

[caligirl]

I bet that most of those figure competitors do a little Var or something, and they are smoking hot.
.

a little GH, a little Var, a little Primo, a little clen to throw in the mix.

 

[Castro_bigdog]

A lil is one thing but chix wit dix OH My GOD...!!!!

 

[H_T_]

and they're called fitness competitors. might as well let plastic surgeons compete against one another with their finished products.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

 

[heatherrae]

and they're called fitness competitors. might as well let plastic surgeons compete against one another with their finished products.

HT, the fitness competitors are the ones who do the routines when they compete, along with being judged on thier physique.
The figure competitors compete based on physique and don't have the routines. It is a different division of competition.

 

[T-Matt]

a little GH, a little Var, a little Primo, a little clen to throw in the mix.

That is the formula for success..

 

[heatherrae]

That is the formula for success..

Really? All that, huh? I didn't know they did so much.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Really? All that, huh? I didn't know they did so much.

It depends some only need a little and it depends weather it is fitness or figure or BB. Also clen and primo are the total suck IMO

 

[H_T_]

HT, the fitness competitors are the ones who do the routines when they compete, along with being judged on thier physique.
The figure competitors compete based on physique and don't have the routines. It is a different division of competition.

not really. it's all just divisions of comeliness. argue away....

 

[heatherrae]

It depends some only need a little and it depends weather it is fitness or figure or BB. Also clen and primo are the total suck IMO

I see, figure competitors come in a little more lean and not so muscular don't they? Then fitness, is a little more muscular and then BB, right?

 

[T-Matt]

Really? All that, huh? I didn't know they did so much.

Yeah i know a couple strippers who did this cycle..

Weeks 1-8

2ius hgh/d
25mcg clen 12233221 x day
100mg primo/w (50mg 2 x week)
(T4 is optional but recommended)

Weeks 4-8
10mg var/d

However, just 10mg/day for 4-5 weeks of Var does a woman's body REALLLL good..

 

[heatherrae]

not really. it's all just divisions of comeliness. argue away....

HUH? I'm not saying that they are not all judged on their appearance. I was just saying that fitness division has to do a routine to music. Figure was started later and that competition does not have to do a fitness routine. Lots of gals didn't want to do the routine because it takes lots of gymnastics skills and such.

 

[H_T_]

BB = jagged gargoyles
fitness = you're not as pretty as a figure competitor, so you better be able to do something, like jump up and down and do cartwheels, dummy.
figure = too skanky to win a beauty contest.

thank you. good night & good luck....

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I see, figure competitors come in a little more lean and not so muscular don't they? Then fitness, is a little more muscular and then BB, right?

Yes pretty much that is correct.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

BB = jagged gargoyles
fitness = you're not as pretty as a figure competitor, so you better be able to do something, like jump up and down and do cartwheels, dummy.
figure = too skanky to win a beauty contest.

thank you. good night & good luck....

Got to love arm chair athletes

 

[heatherrae]

Yeah i know a couple strippers who did this cycle..

Weeks 1-8

2ius hgh/d
25mcg clen 12233221 x day
100mg primo/w (50mg 2 x week)
(T4 is optional but recommended)

Weeks 4-8
10mg var/d

However, just 10mg/day for 4-5 weeks of Var does a woman's body REALLLL good..

Were they in good shape before, or did they start as complete beginners at the gym and start right up on a cycle?

 

[T-Matt]

Yes pretty much that is correct.

I concur

fitness chicks= chicks every guy here on EF dreams about.. Well, except Youngguns, he likes those average chicks (just messin' with ya bro)

figure competitors= chicks that take more gear b/c they can't make it in fitness competitions..

 

[heatherrae]

BB = jagged gargoyles
fitness = you're not as pretty as a figure competitor, so you better be able to do something, like jump up and down and do cartwheels, dummy.
figure = too skanky to win a beauty contest.

thank you. good night & good luck....

Not true in the least. I've seen plenty smokin hot girls in all 3 categories. I knew a girl who did fitness competition and was also one of those Ms. Hawaiin Tropic girls. She was unbelievably gorgeous.

 

[H_T_]

Got to love arm chair athletes

but i'm right. it's a subculture, nothing more. ESPN uses it to fill space between Texas Hold `Em tourneys.

 

[Bikini Mod]

This thread is sooooooooooooo funny. But I cant says I blames people for their misinformation. After all, anabolics are hardly legal.

If only A/S was legal most peeps would be SHOCKED at the reality of it all.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

but i'm right. it's a subculture, nothing more. ESPN uses it to fill space between Texas Hold `Em tourneys.

Dunno if you are serious or doing this to get a rise out of me buth either way FU.

 

[heatherrae]

I concur

fitness chicks= chicks every guy here on EF dreams about.. Well, except Youngguns, he likes those average chicks (just messin' with ya bro)

figure competitors= chicks that take more gear b/c they can't make it in fitness competitions..

I thought figure competitors took LESS gear because they just are more lean and don't need to pack on quite as much muscle. The figure competitors that I talked to did figure either because they didn't have the gymnastics ability to do the routines or because they retired from fitness. ??? Lots of those fitness gals have a gymnastics background or cheerleading or something. Those skills are somewhat difficult to just pick right up for a competition.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I thought figure competitors took LESS gear because they just are more lean and don't need to pack on quite as much muscle. The figure competitors that I talked to did figure either because they didn't have the gymnastics ability to do the routines or because they retired from fitness. ??? Lots of those fitness gals have a gymnastics background or cheerleading or something. Those skills are somewhat difficult to just pick right up for a competition.

The amount/type of assistance a woman takes in order to be competitive in either figure/fitness/bbing isnt wholey dependant on the category.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

The amount/type of assistance a woman takes in order to be competitive in either figure/fitness/bbing isnt wholey dependant on the category.

Exactly it depends on genetics everything in BB world depends on genetics.

 

[heatherrae]

The amount/type of assistance a woman takes in order to be competitive in either figure/fitness/bbing isnt wholey dependant on the category.

I see. Just curious.

 

[H_T_]

let's all be honest. i juice. i'm running about 800mg of cypionate right now. i dropped the orals to detoxify slightly. i'm thinking about picking up on Winstrol @ 50mg ED soon on top of the cyp.

 

[T-Matt]

Exactly it depends on genetics everything in BB world depends on genetics.

Lifestyle determines where you're going, genetics determine how fast you get there. AAS is NOS. Use too much NOS you'll blow your engine, use the right amount and the right combination and you're well on your way to whereever you want to go.

 

[heatherrae]

Lifestyle determines where you're going, genetics determine how fast you get there. AAS is NOS. Use too much NOS you'll blow your engine, use the right amount and the right combination and you're well on your way to whereever you want to go.

Hey, read my question up a little higher in response to the cycle that your 2 friends were on. =-)

 

[H_T_]

wonder where Mike Mattarazzo is? or Greg Kovacs? name some other success stories!

 

[T-Matt]

let's all be honest. i juice. i'm running about 800mg of cypionate right now. i dropped the orals to detoxify slightly. i'm thinking about picking up on Winstrol @ 50mg ED soon on top of the cyp.

haha, ok, I"ll be very honest.

800mg/wk Eq
400mg/wk Test E
500mg/wk masteron
700mg/wk tren ace
100mg/day clostebol acetate (LOOOVE it!!!)
75mg var/d
50mg proviron/d

If winny oral go with at least 75-80mg/d or just proviron at 50mg/d to get a similar effect.. winny makes my joints ACHE

 

[heatherrae]

haha, ok, I"ll be very honest.

800mg/wk Eq
400mg/wk Test E
500mg/wk masteron
700mg/wk tren ace
100mg/day clostebol acetate (LOOOVE it!!!)
75mg var/d
50mg proviron/d

If winny oral go with at least 75-80mg/d or just proviron at 50mg/d to get a similar effect.. winny makes my joints ACHE

sounds very expensive!

 

[jnevin]

let's all be honest. i juice. i'm running about 800mg of cypionate right now. i dropped the orals to detoxify slightly. i'm thinking about picking up on Winstrol @ 50mg ED soon on top of the cyp.

Why? You're pretty much always on aren't you?

 

[sardonicone]

Not true in the least. I've seen plenty smokin hot girls in all 3 categories. I knew a girl who did fitness competition and was also one of those Ms. Hawaiin Tropic girls. She was unbelievably gorgeous.

I can't say I've ever seen a female BB that was gorgeous in my eyes. But then, beauty is relative.

I'm just not into muscular women. If I wanted that, I'd start sucking cock.

 

[H_T_]

Why? You're pretty much always on aren't you?

pretty much. what's your cycle looking like?

 

[T-Matt]

The figure competitors that I talked to did figure either because they didn't have the gymnastics ability to do the routines or because they retired from fitness. ???

This is true for many of them, however, there are many new young and upcoming figure competitors that, IMHO simply aren't athletic enough to be fitness competitors. I'm sure it goes both way though. Genetics does play a large part in which field these women choose to enter. I still have more respect for fitness competitors because what good is a great body if you can't use it and have circus-like grafity-defying sex with me? Mobility, functional strength, body control, and flexibility sure do make sex a lot more enjoyable.....

No, but seriously, fitness chicks are more sexually appealing and natural looking to most guys.. It is natural for a woman to have a little flat, to be a little soft.. Hell, that's what estrogen does.. Even us guys have various amounts of aromatase to convert some of our testosterone into estrogen.. We need that for elasticity in our skin as well as many other various beneficial physiological characteristics.

 

[jnevin]

pretty much. what's your cycle looking like?

Done for a month. I may get back on some test since I'm looking for a job now. The confidence I feel may help patch my bruised ego. I'm waiting for my EQ and Var and was planning on waiting another month or so. I want to be at 10% when I start.

 

[heatherrae]

This is true for many of them, however, there are many new young and upcoming figure competitors that, IMHO simply aren't athletic enough to be fitness competitors. I'm sure it goes both way though. Genetics does play a large part in which field these women choose to enter. I still have more respect for fitness competitors because what good is a great body if you can't use it and have circus-like grafity-defying sex with me? Mobility, functional strength, body control, and flexibility sure do make sex a lot more enjoyable.....

No, but seriously, fitness chicks are more sexually appealing and natural looking to most guys.. It is natural for a woman to have a little flat, to be a little soft.. Hell, that's what estrogen does.. Even us guys have various amounts of aromatase to convert some of our testosterone into estrogen.. We need that for elasticity in our skin as well as many other various beneficial physiological characteristics.

Oh, I'm probably just confused. I thought that figure gals are the ones who come in a little more soft and flat. I thought the fitness gals were a little more muscular. Heck, I don't know. When I watch those competitions, they all look good to me.

 

[H_T_]

Done for a month. I may get back on some test since I'm looking for a job now. The confidence I feel may help patch my bruised ego. I'm waiting for my EQ and Var and was planning on waiting another month or so. I want to be at 10% when I start.

i just dropped EQ. was pushing my bp too high. i might get some anavar this summer, along with tren.

 

[T-Matt]

Eh, gear is pretty cheap when you home brew and know the right people in the right places.. I have 5000 ius of hygetrophin that i'm thinking about taking.. might sell it. don't know yet.

Seriously though HT, if we could put every man over 35 on at least 500mg/wk of test, this would be a different world.. shit would actually get done, we'd stop bitching about some 19 year old canadian kid talking smack over the net.. we might actually act like we have a pair and start treating women the way they want us to treat them...

Are you using Tyler's to detox liver?

 

[jnevin]

Oh, I'm probably just confused. I thought that figure gals are the ones who come in a little more soft and flat. I thought the fitness gals were a little more muscular. Heck, I don't know. When I watch those competitions, they all look good to me.

They're all solid as hell, and I think most use to a degree. Like some folks on here said, some people respond very well to small amounts, some need more. It's a reality of the sport.

 

[jnevin]

i just dropped EQ. was pushing my bp too high. i might get some anavar this summer, along with tren.

Tren makes me a bad person. I'll never touch it again. It's super human shit though.

 

[heatherrae]

They're all solid as hell, and I think most use to a degree. Like some folks on here said, some people respond very well to small amounts, some need more. It's a reality of the sport.

Hmmmm...okay. Very educational.

 

[T-Matt]

i just dropped EQ. was pushing my bp too high. i might get some anavar this summer, along with tren.

Tren,test, anavar and winny/masteron is the god of all cycles bro..

EQ gives me insane pumps.. My pumps got so bad from brushing my teeth that i had to get an electric toothbrush

 

[T-Matt]

They're all solid as hell, and I think most use to a degree. Like some folks on here said, some people respond very well to small amounts, some need more. It's a reality of the sport.

Very true. I know a guy who put on 40lbs from 25mg dbol per day and 250mg sustanon/wk for 10 weeks.. Although I'd never recommend anyone do a 17-aa for 10 weeks, he did, and he looks insane. Insulin sensitivity and bone density play a huge role in hypertrophy..

 

[jnevin]

Hmmmm...okay. Very educational.

About as much as your misinformed ramblings.

 

[p0ink]

ok, unless your LUCRATIVE job DEPENDS on peak performance, there is no reason any female here should be on gear, plain and fucking simple.

the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is.

ok, so you want to be able to bench 150lbs so you can tell some online community all about it? is that worth making your face look like a beat-up catcher's mit.

sorry, this is not over-reacting, this is an intervention.

go walk around any college campus. i guarantee you, every drop-dead gorgeous looking girl there wouldn't have the faintest idea about what fina kits, papervar, etc are.

 

[heatherrae]

ok, unless your LUCRATIVE job DEPENDS on peak performance, there is no reason any female here should be on gear, plain and fucking simple.

the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is.

ok, so you want to be able to bench 150lbs so you can tell some online community all about it? is that worth making your face look like a beat-up catcher's mit.

sorry, this is not over-reacting, this is an intervention.

go walk around any college campus. i guarantee you, every drop-dead looking girl there wouldn't have the faintest idea about what fina kits, papervar, etc are.

I don't think all their faces look beat up.

 

[p0ink]

I don't think all their faces look beat up.

i'm not saying every last one of them do. however, some of them look like they should be on the rocky horror picture show.

 

[sardonicone]

I don't think all their faces look beat up.

Well, that's because I can't get around to every collage and beat up every collage chick. I'm only one guy, trying to do the impossible...

Oh, wait, you meant the gear users.

My bad.

 

[H_T_]

I don't think all their faces look beat up.

by Posideon's Spear! have you seen them up close? pock marked faces caked with make up. look like sculptures. hence the heavy tanning. covers acne.

 

[heatherrae]

by Posideon's Spear! have you seen them up close? pock marked faces caked with make up. look like sculptures. hence the heavy tanning. covers acne.

I just don't know. I think the tanning is to show muscle definition. I have seen some ladies who look like that and others who don't. Maybe just depends on amounts and what they are taking? If that were absolutely the case that steroids meant having a great body but ruining the face, I think I would always choose to protect my face.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Oh, I'm probably just confused. I thought that figure gals are the ones who come in a little more soft and flat. I thought the fitness gals were a little more muscular. Heck, I don't know. When I watch those competitions, they all look good to me.

I think Matt is confused fitness girls do tend to come in leaner then figure girls. The standard of what figure is however is constantly changing

 

[p0ink]

has anyone ever heard any guy say, "god damn! imagine how hot she would be if she was running an 8 week cycle of sustanon and equipoise!?"

 

[sardonicone]

I just don't know. I think the tanning is to show muscle definition. I have seen some ladies who look like that and others who don't. Maybe just depends on amounts and what they are taking? If that were absolutely the case that steroids meant having a great body but ruining the face, I think I would always choose to protect my face.

I love you, and your face.

Don't 'roid out. Mkay?

 

[heatherrae]

I think Matt is confused fitness girls do tend to come in leaner then figure girls. The standard of what figure is however is constantly changing

Yeah, I hear that there is lots of problems in figure because the gals never know how they are going to be judged. I hear that it varies too much and so they never know what they should be striving for.

 

[heatherrae]

I love you, and your face.

Don't 'roid out. Mkay?

lol...m'kay. =-)

 

[H_T_]

Eh, gear is pretty cheap when you home brew and know the right people in the right places.. I have 5000 ius of hygetrophin that i'm thinking about taking.. might sell it. don't know yet.

Seriously though HT, if we could put every man over 35 on at least 500mg/wk of test, this would be a different world.. shit would actually get done, we'd stop bitching about some 19 year old canadian kid talking smack over the net.. we might actually act like we have a pair and start treating women the way they want us to treat them...

Are you using Tyler's to detox liver?

i never detox. i prolly should, since i take shit daily.

 

[heatherrae]

has anyone ever heard any guy say, "god damn! imagine how hot she would be if she was running an 8 week cycle of sustanon and equipoise!?"

Actually, I had a bf once say just that exact thing to me. Damn baby, you would look so hot if you did a cycle of equipoise. I kid you not. He wanted to give me that himself. I didn't know shit about it, but told him to quit bugging me about it.

 

[heatherrae]

Home brew? Like a meth lab? lol. I didn't know you could home brew steroids?

 

[H_T_]

Actually, I had a bf once say just that exact thing to me. Damn baby, you would look so hot if you did a cycle of equipoise. I kid you not. He wanted to give me that himself. I didn't know shit about it, but told him to quit bugging me about it.

yeah, thickening those vocal chords, maybe some thicker arm hair. sweet.

 

[heatherrae]

yeah, thickening those vocal chords, maybe some thicker arm hair. sweet.

That guy was beautiful, but not too bright. I told him no, flat out.

 

[H_T_]

That guy was beautiful, but not too bright. I told him no, flat out.

uh......you are such a tramp.

 

[heatherrae]

uh......you are such a tramp.

couldn't help it. He was very hot.

 

[Bikini Mod]

ok, unless your LUCRATIVE job DEPENDS on peak performance, there is no reason any female here should be on gear, plain and fucking simple.

the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is.

ok, so you want to be able to bench 150lbs so you can tell some online community all about it? is that worth making your face look like a beat-up catcher's mit.

sorry, this is not over-reacting, this is an intervention.

go walk around any college campus. i guarantee you, every drop-dead gorgeous looking girl there wouldn't have the faintest idea about what fina kits, papervar, etc are.

Just how do you think a woman goes from "run of the mill 'fitness' chick to a competitor/model that actually earns money?

Here is a hint:

THEY ALL MUST USE GEAR OR SOME SUCH SUPPLEMENT AND I AINT TALKIN CREATINE.... period.

Anyone who thinks any different is uneducated or refuses to accept reality.

 

[Bikini Mod]

has anyone ever heard any guy say, "god damn! imagine how hot she would be if she was running an 8 week cycle of sustanon and equipoise!?"

Another myth - a woman needs to do all sorts of tons of gear in order to have a solid physique.

 

[T-Matt]

I think Matt is confused fitness girls do tend to come in leaner then figure girls. The standard of what figure is however is constantly changing

Fitness chicks are leaner in overall body composition because of the vigorous aerobic training they must endure to compete. Figure girls, due to abuse of androgenic steroids, have bacne, deepening of the voice, and facial distortions, as well as various other unattractive characteristics are just down right unattractive to me. I believe that fitness girls are more cardiovascularly healthy and are thus more athletic and more appealing to the naked eye.

 

[p0ink]

Just how do you think a woman goes from "run of the mill 'fitness' chick to a competitor/model that actually earns money?

Here is a hint - THEY ALL MUST USE GEAR.... period.

Anyone who thinks any different is uneducated or refuses to accept reality.

i have no doubt the pros use gear. however, not everyone will go pro. hell, not even .01% will go pro, no matter how long they have been training, how much gear they use, or even their karma/post count.

it just wont happen.

the gear does not simply make the pro - there is far much more involved in that. hell, if that were the case, do you have any idea how many people here would be on the label for shitty supplement products?

please....

 

[H_T_]

it's still not athletics. or a semblance of a sport. collegiate/NCAA type stuff, none of these people could compete there.

 

[manny78]

Some gear (not a lot but a little bit) might take a girl to the next level without looking like a man. Very low dosage or anavar, winny, primo.... Now those hitting test, EQ and whatever you want big time are a different story. It's like a freak show. Same goes to all the Ronnie Coleman type. Very few people find them attractive (cant remember last time I heard a chick say "oh Ronnie is so hawt").

 

[p0ink]

Another myth - a woman needs to do all sorts of tons of gear in order to have a solid physique.

they shouldn't be doing any in the first place.

the girls who most guys would toss their own mothers, clad in an all beef suit, into a shark tank for are not using test.

that's reality.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i have no doubt the pros use gear. however, not everyone will go pro. hell, not even .01% will go pro, no matter how long they have been training, how much gear they use, or even their karma/post count.

it just wont happen.

the gear does not simply make the pro - there is far much more involved in that. hell, if that were the case, do you have any idea how many people here would be on the label for shitty supplement products?

please....

I didnt say that at all. I agree with you. What I am saying is that in order for ANY WOMAN to earn a cent in figure/fitness/bodybuilding/fitness modeling she will have to make the decision to educate herself and supplement as some point in her career.

More education, the less the likelihood that she will forever damage herself by turning herself into a man.

 

[Bikini Mod]

they shouldn't be doing any in the first place.

the girls who most guys would toss their own mothers, clad in an all beef suit, into a shark tank for are not using test.

that's reality.

LOL A woman need not touch test EVER... though there are many women, whom it helps tremendously in very low doses. And No, I aint talkin about competing. I am just talking about her quality of life. Go visit the women's forum and educate yourself my young man.

 

[musclemom]

ok, unless your LUCRATIVE job DEPENDS on peak performance, there is no reason any female here should be on gear, plain and fucking simple.

the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is.

ok, so you want to be able to bench 150lbs so you can tell some online community all about it? is that worth making your face look like a beat-up catcher's mit.

sorry, this is not over-reacting, this is an intervention.

go walk around any college campus. i guarantee you, every drop-dead gorgeous looking girl there wouldn't have the faintest idea about what fina kits, papervar, etc are.

I think it's incredibly egocentric of you (or anybody, not singling you out here you just brought it up) to think you have the right to tell other people how they should look or what they should do with their bodies.

"the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is." Holy shit, the exact same thing could be said of the men on this site. How many guys here compete in any form of bodybuilding or powerlifting? How many man here juice? I bet the number of dudes in category number 2 are well more than four times those in category number 1 ... face it, who really gives a fuck if a guy nearly doubles his bench or his upper arm went up 2"? What good does it do him? Let's be realistically honest. It pumps his ego, that's it, maybe he'll get a few more dates but there's plenty of women who are turned OFF by muscle dudes, too. Lifting weights to get dates is just ... dumb. There's plenty of chicks who dumped guys because they became gym widows.

The vast majority of women who use AAS and don't compete do it for virtually same reasons that men do. They're not out to impress you, or anyone else, they're trying to make themselves happy, doing what makes them feel good, progressing in a sport they enjoy ... or they really want to be fucking huge because that's what they want, and they WANT guys like you to leave them alone

... but get off this, "well, it's okay if the woman is doing it because she's making money at it," give me a fucking break You use that kind of logic, you better apply it to the men, too.

 

[T-Matt]

Actually, I had a bf once say just that exact thing to me. Damn baby, you would look so hot if you did a cycle of equipoise. I kid you not. He wanted to give me that himself. I didn't know shit about it, but told him to quit bugging me about it.

EQ!?!?!? Are you serious?!?! you know eq is essentially long acting dbol right? Guys like that deserve to shoot blanks and not recreate.. I'm glad he's beautiful because he certainly doesn't have a brain.

 

[p0ink]

I didnt say that at all. I agree with you. What I am saying is that in order for ANY WOMAN to earn a cent in figure/fitness/bodybuilding/fitness modeling she will have to make the decision to educate herself and supplement as some point in her career.

More education, the less the likelihood that she will forever damage herself by turning herself into a man.

i couldnt think of a worse business to be in - honestly.

ok, so while we are being real.... how many of the females here are on gear or have used it (AAS)? how many of them are salaried models (a one time photo shoot for a phone sex ad in a cheap porno does not count)? how many of them have a snowballs chance in hell of being any sort of poster child/model in the fitness industry? how many of them have even won local competitions in backwoods, hick towns like topeka, kanas?

no one is even near the pro level.

why do people kid themselves? seriously...

 

[H_T_]

EQ!?!?!? Are you serious?!?! you know eq is essentially long acting dbol right? Guys like that deserve to shoot blanks and not recreate.. I'm glad he's beautiful because he certainly doesn't have a brain.

he's not better looking than me.

 

[T-Matt]

I think it's incredibly egocentric of you (or anybody, not singling you out here you just brought it up) to think you have the right to tell other people how they should look or what they should do with their bodies.

"the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is." Holy shit, the exact same thing could be said of the men on this site. How many guys here compete in any form of bodybuilding or powerlifting? How many man here juice? I bet the number of dudes in category number 2 are well more than four times those in category number 1 ... face it, who really gives a fuck if a guy nearly doubles his bench or his upper arm went up 2"? What good does it do him? Let's be realistically honest. It pumps his ego, that's it, maybe he'll get a few more dates but there's plenty of women who are turned OFF by muscle dudes, too. Lifting weights to get dates is just ... dumb. There's plenty of chicks who dumped guys because they became gym widows.

The vast majority of women who use AAS and don't compete do it for virtually same reasons that men do. They're not out to impress you, or anyone else, they're trying to make themselves happy, doing what makes them feel good, progressing in a sport they enjoy ... or they really want to be fucking huge because that's what they want, and they WANT guys like you to leave them alone

... but get off this, "well, it's okay if the woman is doing it because she's making money at it," give me a fucking break You use that kind of logic, you better apply it to the men, too.

*swallow* umm, are you a scorpio too? Again, you never answered me, I proposed to you once already on this thread..

haha.. i love how people are like 'well, if you don't compete then don't do this and don't do that and blah blah fucking blah'

The fact is is that technology is here for a reason. If you are too busy standing around at the river of life watching other people take from it and accusing them of being greedy and needy, then you live in a sad fucking world. Stop worrying about what other people are doing and taking from the river of life and go get your own damn bucket.. I swear. Live and let life. There are so many drugs in our water and food it's ridiculous. The fact is is that most pharmaceutical drugs do terrible things to your body. IE birth control is the nastiest of them all! A woman might as well swallow arsenic along with it, the side effects couldn't get much worse..

I believe that intentions define your character. If you rescue 3 people from a burning building because you want to be on tv then because of your intentions you are a coward. Who cares WHAT you did, it's WHY you did it... Intentions are the nuclei of a person. There are 2 things in life, actions and excuses. Excuses don't matter. You want something, go get it, don't make excuses and put others down for you not getting what you think you deserve.

 

[stilleto]

ok, so you want to be able to bench 150lbs so you can tell some online community all about it? is that worth making your face look like a beat-up catcher's mit.

I've been benching well over 150lbs for a few years and I have never juiced, nor would i.

 

[the-short-one]

I'm running a gram of test a week. Thinking about adding 75mg tren ED so I can get my clit bigger. 6 inches seems so small...

Hey, HT. I need to borrow your Norelco razor when your done with it. the stubble on my ass is getting out of hand. I can't turn pro with a stubbly ass.

 

[p0ink]

I think it's incredibly egocentric of you (or anybody, not singling you out here you just brought it up) to think you have the right to tell other people how they should look or what they should do with their bodies.

"the run of the mill 'fitness' chicks here who use gear but have no sponsorships, corporate contracts, billboard/magazine ads, etc have no reason to use. sorry, that's just how it is." Holy shit, the exact same thing could be said of the men on this site. How many guys here compete in any form of bodybuilding or powerlifting? How many man here juice? I bet the number of dudes in category number 2 are well more than four times those in category number 1 ... face it, who really gives a fuck if a guy nearly doubles his bench or his upper arm went up 2"? What good does it do him? Let's be realistically honest. It pumps his ego, that's it, maybe he'll get a few more dates but there's plenty of women who are turned OFF by muscle dudes, too. Lifting weights to get dates is just ... dumb. There's plenty of chicks who dumped guys because they became gym widows.

The vast majority of women who use AAS and don't compete do it for virtually same reasons that men do. They're not out to impress you, or anyone else, they're trying to make themselves happy, doing what makes them feel good, progressing in a sport they enjoy ... or they really want to be fucking huge because that's what they want, and they WANT guys like you to leave them alone

... but get off this, "well, it's okay if the woman is doing it because she's making money at it," give me a fucking break You use that kind of logic, you better apply it to the men, too.

it bothers me because they do it under the guise of health and fitness? hell, by your logic, we should all be fine with someone smoking rocks and giving head on the back of a bus, so long as it makes them happy.

let us all use musclemom's logic (or lack thereof)...whatever feels good must be intrinsically good.

so, go fuck your neighbors dog if that's what makes you feel good. go shoot the pizza delivery man for shits and giggles. drive on the wrong side of the freeway...so long as you feel this necessary for your own happiness and some sort of personal fulfillment.

and yeah, there are many, many guys who fall under the same category. however, it is not the men who are taking the OPPOSITE SEX's hormones.

that's the equivalent of guys wearing panties and pumps when they go to work.

but yeah, blur those gender lines. sweet.

 

[Frisky]

10mg of var for 4 weeks = total body transformation?

omg... no way!

The misinformation here is really teh suck!

First of all... no amt of gear will transform you with out proper training and diet. (bottom line) And even without gear you can get a transformation.

Bottom line... learn your body... eat healthy and train! If it takes you farther... don't ever take advice from anyone on C&C... consult the womens forum or the training board.

LOL

 

[p0ink]

I have never juiced, nor would i.

see, i knew i was right to never suspect you of having penis envy.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Just how do you think a woman goes from "run of the mill 'fitness' chick to a competitor/model that actually earns money?

Here is a hint:

THEY ALL MUST USE GEAR OR SOME SUCH SUPPLEMENT AND I AINT TALKIN CREATINE.... period.

Anyone who thinks any different is uneducated or refuses to accept reality.

IN BB I would agree even to a degree fitness but I can honestly say that some figure girls if they have the right genetics do not require juice. Look at Jessica Paxson as an example I have seen her say she is natural and to be honest I would believe she is. I am not say that is the majority more the minority but it is possible to compete in figure and be natural.

 

[the-short-one]

it bothers me because they do it under the guise of health and fitness? hell, by your logic, we should all be fine with someone smoking rocks and giving head on the back of a bus, so long as it makes them happy.

let us all use musclemom's logic (or lack thereof)...whatever feels good must be intrinsically good.

so, go fuck your neighbors dog if that's what makes you feel good. go shoot the pizza delivery man for shits and giggles. drive on the wrong side of the freeway...so long as you feel this necessary for your own happiness and some sort of personal fulfillment.

and yeah, there are many, many guys who fall under the same category. however, it is not the men who are taking the OPPOSITE SEX's hormones.

that's the equivalent of guys wearing panties and pumps when they go to work.

but yeah, blur those gender lines. sweet.

There will always be those on the fringe who can't help but take things to the extreme...and it's always the extremists that get the most press coverage.


This all comes down to personal likes and dislikes. You don't like juicer chicks. cool. Some girls don't like juicer guys. that's cool, too.

I personally don't like weenie guys with no muscle, and I like the looks of muscle on me. .

 

[the-short-one]

There will always be those on the fringe who can't help but take things to the extreme...and it's always the extremists that get the most press coverage.


This all comes down to personal likes and dislikes. You don't like juicer chicks. cool. Some girls don't like juicer guys. that's cool, too.

I personally don't like weenie guys with no muscle, and I like the looks of muscle on me. .

...and dammit. I'm cool.

 

[H_T_]

once again, it's a subculture. like being a trekkie. unless you're immersed in it, you won't get it.

 

[Frisky]

There will always be those on the fringe who can't help but take things to the extreme...and it's always the extremists that get the most press coverage.


This all comes down to personal likes and dislikes. You don't like juicer chicks. cool. Some girls don't like juicer guys. that's cool, too.

I personally don't like weenie guys with no muscle, and I like the looks of muscle on me. .

I love the way you think... preference is from one person to another... and if you have to please everyone, in the end you don't please yourself. You are honest and upfront. I respect that... and you look f'ing awesome!

 

[p0ink]

see, this is what nightmares are made of

http://www.vilmacaez.com/photos.html

 

[the-short-one]

I love the way you think... preference is from one person to another... and if you have to please everyone, in the end you don't please yourself. You are honest and upfront. I respect that... and you look f'ing awesome!

chicks dig me.

 

[T-Matt]

Proper training and diet are a given here..... I'm not talking to the average schmo on the street here..

10mg of var for 4 weeks = total body transformation?

omg... no way!

The misinformation here is really teh suck!

First of all... no amt of gear will transform you with out proper training and diet. (bottom line) And even without gear you can get a transformation.

Bottom line... learn your body... eat healthy and train! If it takes you farther... don't ever take advice from anyone on C&C... consult the womens forum or the training board.

LOL

 

[the-short-one]

see, this is what nightmares are made of

http://www.vilmacaez.com/photos.html

those chicks could wup your ass. lolol proly why you don't like them.

 

[H_T_]

say it and say it loud. i'm a juicer and proud.