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68GT350 said:


I saw each of those. Hardly the degree that BOS took his insults to. Besides, her flaming was joined by the entire board which, everyone will agree, was warranted and all in good fun. The above comment you stated is just facetious.

So just because the whole board is in on the flaming makes it right. That is complete bullshit. Things are falling into place. If you are not part of the "in clique", you are not allowed to flame people without fear of being banned. But as long as you are "in", you have no worries and can do as you please.

You are making excuses.

How do you know that BOS's comments were not just in fun. You have no clue how he really thinks or what he really believes.

I believe in one set standard. All flaming is either allowed or no flaming is allowed.
 
spentagn said:


So how about strongchick gets banned? Many of her comments are racially motivated, and sexual preference is ALWAYS an issue. One that she perpetuates. If you're gonna play police man, be a man and don't just arrest those on the other side of the tracks.

Strongchick posts threads to evoke thought and controversy in an adult manner. She doesn't go outright spitting profanities, targeting one's beliefs and attacking like a pit bull. There's a big difference that even a 5 year old can see.
 
RyanH said:


and whom do you think seeks out confrontation with StrongChick first....you guys have called her everything imaginable. Hopefully she doesn't care.

I certainly don't.

Ryan.:)

Uh-huh. We "guys" started threads saying America deserved the 9-11 attacks and that Bush isn't punishing Walker because he's white. Oh yeah, Jesus is black and gay. How about standing up for the beliefs and opinions of others, Mr. ACLU?
 
RyanH said:


I love everyone, even you.....Benevolence is what the human race ought to be all about. So please work on your benevolence.

"Love Thy Neighbor"-----------isn't that an excerpt from a book you seem to promote with great tenancity.

Please explain why you cannot understand our concern for BOS banishment??
 
68GT350 said:


Strongchick posts threads to evoke thought and controversy in an adult manner. She doesn't go outright spitting profanities, targeting one's beliefs and attacking like a pit bull. There's a big difference that even a 5 year old can see.

that's exactly right, but I do agree with Bocephus in that just because the whole board makes fun of somone, it's o.k...because it isn't.

wrong is wrong.
 
68GT350 said:


Strongchick posts threads to evoke thought and controversy in an adult manner. She doesn't go outright spitting profanities, targeting one's beliefs and attacking like a pit bull. There's a big difference that even a 5 year old can see.

Yep. Real adult-like, ridiculing religious beliefs of others.
 
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spentagn said:


Uh-huh. We "guys" started threads saying America deserved the 9-11 attacks and that Bush isn't punishing Walker because he's white. Oh yeah, Jesus is black and gay. How about standing up for the beliefs and opinions of others, Mr. ACLU?

You don't have to read strongChick's informative posts, you are free to scroll on past them.

But something in her posts, draws you back to her time and time again....Her thread counts are usually tremendously high.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


So just because the whole board is in on the flaming makes it right. That is complete bullshit. Things are falling into place. If you are not part of the "in clique", you are not allowed to flame people without fear of being banned. But as long as you are "in", you have no worries and can do as you please.

You are making excuses.

How do you know that BOS's comments were not just in fun. You have no clue how he really thinks or what he really believes.

I believe in one set standard. All flaming is either allowed or no flaming is allowed.

I didn't say that. What i was trying to get at was Plifter, NYC Boy, and whoever else had it coming. They posted pictures with the intention of getting flamed. Garza even stated it. Plifter knew he was gonna get flamed. And don't even argue that NYC BOY didn't expect to get flamed. He weighs about 150lbs in that picture and made the rediculous comment of being the "biggest guy in the gym". You guys, once again, are making facetious arguements to support a dying debate.

Face it, BOS's banishment was a long time coming.
 
RyanH said:


You don't have to read strongChick's informative posts, you are free to scroll on past them.

But something in her posts, draws you back to her time and time again....Her thread counts are usually tremendously high.

Amen.

All you guys have now resorted to grasping at straws.
 
RyanH said:


You don't have to read strongChick's informative posts, you are free to scroll on past them.

But something in her posts, draws you back to her time and time again....Her thread counts are usually tremendously high.

Congratulations you fucking idiot. This is exactly what everyone's been saying about BOS.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:
If you are not part of the "in clique", you are not allowed to flame people without fear of being banned. But as long as you are "in", you have no worries and can do as you please.

Exactamundo.
 
spentagn said:


Congratulations you fucking idiot. This is exactly what everyone's been saying about BOS.


big difference. BOS interrupts other's threads...he didn't just stay in his own room.....BOS would interrupt an intelligent conversation with hate and defamation.
 
Just because YOU believe they had it coming does not make it excuseable. Look, I think flaming is fine. Hell I have been labeled one of the biggest assholes on this board. So you know I do not give a shit one way or the other.

But for certain people to be exempt from punishment and others being banned for any little thing is completely wrong.
 
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Don't be stupid...you can flame whoever and whatever you want. Look how long it took BOS to finally get banned. There may be cliques around here but that has nothing to do with probability of getting banned.

Take it up with george people. If you feel so strongly, why would you want to post on a board that is so unjust. If I hated the way this board was run...I'd leave!

End of discussion.
 
The Nature Boy said:


how the hell could anyone agree with his views???? :confused:

How the hell could anyone agree with yours? I usually don't, but I'll defend your right to have them, and not be banned.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:

But for certain people to be exempt from punishment and others being banned for any little thing is completely wrong.

ANY LITTLE THING??? Everything he said was far from little and it was posted more than seldomly.
 
68GT350 said:


Strongchick posts threads to evoke thought and controversy in an adult manner. She doesn't go outright spitting profanities, targeting one's beliefs and attacking like a pit bull. There's a big difference that even a 5 year old can see.

Dude.. she said WE DESERVED the Sept. 11th attacks.. that my new friend is TREASON.
 
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I am curious to know what the process of banning is.

Is some kinda tribunal conducted by the moderators? Is it on the basis of complaints? Is the person given warnings first? I really do not understand why some conspicuosly hateful posters remain while others are banned. I'm just curious.

In the meantime....It's quite a stretch to compare BOS's ad hominem attacks to Strongchick's provocative posts about ideas and political matters. Asking if the race of an apparent traitor partly explains the tolerance with which he's being treated is a far cry from calling someone racial epithets.
 
RyanH said:



big difference. BOS interrupts other's threads...he didn't just stay in his own room.....BOS would interrupt an intelligent conversation with hate and defamation.

The same could be said for your "sandwich" comment in the gun thread.

Another example would be people bringing up karma in threads that have zero to do with karma. From then on it becomes nothing more then people exchanging karma for no apparent reason. You want to talk about that bullshit, well put in your own thread.
 
RyanH said:



big difference. BOS interrupts other's threads...he didn't just stay in his own room.....BOS would interrupt an intelligent conversation with hate and defamation.

99% of BOS' posts involved fattie. Most found this to be rather funny. Maybe he is racist, I don't know. But he's allowed to be. If you don't like him interrupting others' threads, ignore him. Practice what you preach.
 
Guys, thank you for your input. It was a pleasure arguing. I'm going to the gym. I hope there is no hard feelings here and may you all havea good night.

I respect all your views--you did a great job supporting them.

Peace and Love.
 
spentagn said:


99% of BOS' posts involved fattie. Most found this to be rather funny. Maybe he is racist, I don't know. But he's allowed to be. If you don't like him interrupting others' threads, ignore him. Practice what you preach.

I've never interrupted another person's thread and called them contemptious names. Ever.
 
spentagn said:


How the hell could anyone agree with yours? I usually don't, but I'll defend your right to have them, and not be banned.

and vice versa, but the guy was a freaking hate monger, and a total biggot. Did he contribute anything positive? did he? maybe if he had some damn usefullness. Guys like BOS drive people away. And lets face it George Spellwin has a business to run. Right? Or am I off base here? It's his call.
 
musclebrains said:
I am curious to know what the process of banning is.

Is some kinda tribunal conducted by the moderators? Is it on the basis of complaints? Is the person given warnings first? I really do not understand why some conspicuosly hateful posters remain while others are banned. I'm just curious.

In the meantime....It's quite a stretch to compare BOS's ad hominem attacks to Strongchick's provocative posts about ideas and political matters. Asking if the race of an apparent traitor partly explains the tolerance with which he's being treated is a far cry from calling someone racial epithets.
 
spentagn said:


99% of BOS' posts involved fattie. Most found this to be rather funny. Maybe he is racist, I don't know. But he's allowed to be. If you don't like him interrupting others' threads, ignore him. Practice what you preach.

no they didn't. And if you can't see that he's a racist I really don't know what to tell you. To be racist is fine, but to attack others because of it is wrong. TEll me how it's right. Please.
 
RyanH said:


I've never interrupted another person's thread and called them contemptious names. Ever.

Step 1: Remove head from ass.

Step 2: Follow advice about ignoring people you disagree with or find offensive.

Step 3: Continue posting.
 
The Nature Boy said:


no they didn't. And if you can't see that he's a racist I really don't know what to tell you. To be racist is fine, but to attack others because of it is wrong. TEll me how it's right. Please.

It is not right, but his opinions should not be shutdown.
 
musclebrains said:
I am curious to know what the process of banning is.

Is some kinda tribunal conducted by the moderators? Is it on the basis of complaints? Is the person given warnings first? I really do not understand why some conspicuosly hateful posters remain while others are banned. I'm just curious.


Well there are a few people here, that I wish weren't.

I'm not going to say how the decision is made, if George wants to talk to people about this issue, he certainly can.
 
The Nature Boy said:


and vice versa, but the guy was a freaking hate monger, and a total biggot. Did he contribute anything positive? did he? maybe if he had some damn usefullness. Guys like BOS drive people away. And lets face it George Spellwin has a business to run. Right? Or am I off base here? It's his call.

Since when did an asshole on the Chat forum keep people from buying George's services and products? I am platinum, and I buy lots of Mass Quantities. And, I find some of the people who post here to be assholes. George has bigger issues than BOS affecting sales, namely the continual resurgence of Airtyme on the Anabolics Board.
 
From what I have heard through some inside sources, it all starts with some type of vote in the mod forum and then George and the admin make the final decision.
 
The Nature Boy said:


no they didn't. And if you can't see that he's a racist I really don't know what to tell you. To be racist is fine, but to attack others because of it is wrong. TEll me how it's right. Please.

Read Bo's post regarding this. He summed it up.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:
From what I have heard through some inside sources, it all starts with some type of vote in the mod forum and then George and the admin make the final decision.

That's what I hear over here, as well. But what do I know? Maybe I should've started posting more porn pics or something.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


It is not right, but his opinions should not be shutdown.

but to verbally attack people because they are gay isn't cool. these are people who may be paying customers or may buy stuff from this site. if they leave, george loses money. Capish?
 
BO-CEPHUS said:




You are making excuses.

How do you know that BOS's comments were not just in fun. You have no clue how he really thinks or what he really believes.



hence the term thought police.

even when people were "harrased" by BOS

he was almost never taken seriuosly.

and as MB put it, he would find him humurous.
 
The Nature Boy said:


but to verbally attack people because they are gay isn't cool. these are people who may be paying customers or may buy stuff from this site. if they leave, george loses money. Capish?

If people quit buying a quality product because of what some random kid says on this board, well they are a complete dumbass.
 
As far as I'm concerned this discussion, for me, is over.

Goodnight....Remember, love thy neighbor.

:)
Ryan.
 
oh well. he got what he had coming to him. sure we all don't agree, but has this thread turned in to a BOS type session? No. Aint it great!!!!
 
also, it's not like he's gone forever right? I'm sure soon enough we'll hear his stupidity again. Don't worry. Morons can be persistant. :D
 
RyanH said:


You don't have to read strongChick's informative posts, you are free to scroll on past them.

But something in her posts, draws you back to her time and time again....Her thread counts are usually tremendously high.


1) her threads are "informative" that is very subjective. who decides if ones posts are informative or not? And who is to say that is a critereon for not being banned.

2) post counts tremendously high............as I recall BOS's weren't too shaby.


just dicussing.........no ego involved
 
musclebrains said:
I am curious to know what the process of banning is.

Is some kinda tribunal conducted by the moderators? Is it on the basis of complaints? Is the person given warnings first? I really do not understand why some conspicuosly hateful posters remain while others are banned. I'm just curious.

In the meantime....It's quite a stretch to compare BOS's ad hominem attacks to Strongchick's provocative posts about ideas and political matters. Asking if the race of an apparent traitor partly explains the tolerance with which he's being treated is a far cry from calling someone racial epithets.
My theory is that the reason some "conspicuosly hateful posters" remain is that we simply have too many to ban all of them without excessive complaints.
I agree about Strongchick. I am quite different politically yet I find her posts and threads to be of the highest caliber quite often. Good thing I missed her observations about Sept. 11th. Don't think I could have ignored what I hear she said.
 
The Nature Boy said:
oh well. he got what he had coming to him. sure we all don't agree, but has this thread turned in to a BOS type session? No. Aint it great!!!!

And it actually stayed on track! It never sidetracked at all!

I know I enjoyed it...even with a fucking dial-up connection.

Banning is wrong regardless. Great pissing contest anyway!
 
And why was my post about BOS's last words suddenly deleted.
It was only posted to add substance to the argument. Ryan
 
HighIntensity said:
And why was my post about BOS's last words suddenly deleted.
It was only posted to add substance to the argument. Ryan

Damn, it was deleted?

i wondered where that thread had gone.

Complete bullshit.
 
As a journalist, I find all forms of censorship hard to accept. On the other hand, I have also sued people for libel (successfully), so I don't think people should be given unbridled license to engage in invective.

I am curious to know if Bo, Spent, et. al., draw the line anywhere. Is there any place that speech should be regulated in forums like this? I mean besides the usual wartime emergency provisions.
 
musclebrains said:

I am curious to know if Bo, Spent, et. al., draw the line anywhere. Is there any place that speech should be regulated in forums like this? I mean besides the usual wartime emergency provisions.

I understand George censoring speech on this board. It is a private board owned by a private company. He has the right to do as he pleases.

On the otherhand, I would not censor anyone if I owned a board such as this. I believe people should be able to express their views no matter how bad a person or society in general views them.
 
musclebrains said:
As a journalist, I find all forms of censorship hard to accept. On the other hand, I have also sued people for libel (successfully), so I don't think people should be given unbridled license to engage in invective.



You have won a libel suit? Good for you!!!:)

By far the biggest reason for my general loathing of the media is all the slander and libel they engage in and get away with. Who is the media accountable to?.........that is a question I frequently ask.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:



On the otherhand, I would not censor anyone if I owned a board such as this. I believe people should be able to express their views no matter how bad a person or society in general views them.
I have always been struck by how condoning people are of people with similar character flaws.
 
Test boy said:
I have always been struck by how condoning people are of people with similar character flaws.

And what character flaws would that be?
 
musclebrains said:
As a journalist, I find all forms of censorship hard to accept. On the other hand, I have also sued people for libel (successfully), so I don't think people should be given unbridled license to engage in invective.

I am curious to know if Bo, Spent, et. al., draw the line anywhere. Is there any place that speech should be regulated in forums like this? I mean besides the usual wartime emergency provisions.

If someone's being malicious, they can be censored, fine. There have been cases where members threatening others have resulted in nothing. Bfold comes to mind.
 
RyanH said:


well-said, the final decision does not come from us moderators.

But didn't you say you advocated it?????? It seems like you pushed for it and then when it happens you blame "Big Bad George" typical of the way your internet personna thinks......... to not be held responsible for your actions............
 
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Test boy said:
musclebrains said:
As a journalist, I find all forms of censorship hard to accept. On the other hand, I have also sued people for libel (successfully), so I don't think people should be given unbridled license to engage in invective.



You have won a libel suit? Good for you!!!:)

By far the biggest reason for my general loathing of the media is all the slander and libel they engage in and get away with. Who is the media accountable to?.........that is a question I frequently ask.

Yep and I wrote my own briefs in both cases and both papers settled with me. And, I also extracted a public apology from a very well know conservative radio moron who is praised here now and then.

I am also appalled by what has happened in the media. I'm sure your, um, parents have told you how unbelievably different it is now from 15 or 20 years ago. I feel sure that my case was enhanced by the fact that it was a matter of a journalist suing journalists.

But part of what specifically appalls me is the authorization of language like BOS's. I would NEVER publish his kind of garbage and it's published all the time now. He is very much an expression of the culture, which values shock and glibness over thoughtfulness now. There's something appealing in it but it's not an appeal to our best part.
 
musclebrains said:



I am also appalled by what has happened in the media. I'm sure your, um, parents have told you how unbelievably different it is now from 15 or 20 years ago. I feel sure that my case was enhanced by the fact that it was a matter of a journalist suing journalists.

But part of what specifically appalls me is the authorization of language like BOS's. I would NEVER publish his kind of garbage and it's published all the time now. He is very much an expression of the culture, which values shock and glibness over thoughtfulness now. There's something appealing in it but it's not an appeal to our best part.
I'm in my 30's so I well remember what it was like. Impossible not to notice the exponential increases in libel, slander, lawsuits, fraud, depression, suicide, medication, and the breathtaking breakdown of the American family. People simply don't try to cooperate and get along like they used to. It is all about me nowadays.

You may be alarmed if you knew the extent that I hold the media accountable for in contributing to these mega trends. Behavior like BOS's goes unpunished because it is so commonplace and punishment has become a dirty word. In addition, I would argue that writing on this board amounts to a publication of viewpoints so I really don't buy these arguments about "letting it go because it is just an internet chat board." Is the internet a less legitimate form of communication than paper, television, or radio? I don't think so. Actually we have less pressure to respond quickly and so have a lesser excuse for "slips of the tongue."

I'm sure that some would argue that "just anybody" should not be held accountable like a journalist or radio/TV personality. I have never become aware of ethical standards being set up and enforced upon the media nor of any "oaths of decency" that these people must take.

I would stop well short of saying that lawsuits are permissible for internet gaffs but banning is a pretty small consequence for rubbing everyones face in the excrement espoused by minds akin to BOS.

Whatever happened to manners????
 
Test boy said:
I'm in my 30's so I well remember what it was like. Impossible not to notice the exponential increases in libel, slander, lawsuits, fraud, depression, suicide, medication, and the breathtaking breakdown of the American family. People simply don't try to cooperate and get along like they used to. It is all about me nowadays.

You may be alarmed if you knew the extent that I hold the media accountable for in contributing to these mega trends. Behavior like BOS's goes unpunished because it is so commonplace and punishment has become a dirty word. In addition, I would argue that writing on this board amounts to a publication of viewpoints so I really don't buy these arguments about "letting it go because it is just an internet chat board." Is the internet a less legitimate form of communication than paper, television, or radio? I don't think so. Actually we have less pressure to respond quickly and so have a lesser excuse for "slips of the tongue."

I'm sure that some would argue that "just anybody" should not be held accountable like a journalist or radio/TV personality. I have never become aware of ethical standards being set up and enforced upon the media nor of any "oaths of decency" that these people must take.

I would stop well short of saying that lawsuits are permissible for internet gaffs but banning is a pretty small consequence for rubbing everyones face in the excrement espoused by minds akin to BOS.

Whatever happened to manners????
Damn TB...interesting ideas there.
 
Test boy said:
I'm in my 30's so I well remember what it was like. Impossible not to notice the exponential increases in libel, slander, lawsuits, fraud, depression, suicide, medication, and the breathtaking breakdown of the American family. People simply don't try to cooperate and get along like they used to. It is all about me nowadays.

You may be alarmed if you knew the extent that I hold the media accountable for in contributing to these mega trends. Behavior like BOS's goes unpunished because it is so commonplace and punishment has become a dirty word. In addition, I would argue that writing on this board amounts to a publication of viewpoints so I really don't buy these arguments about "letting it go because it is just an internet chat board." Is the internet a less legitimate form of communication than paper, television, or radio? I don't think so. Actually we have less pressure to respond quickly and so have a lesser excuse for "slips of the tongue."

I'm sure that some would argue that "just anybody" should not be held accountable like a journalist or radio/TV personality. I have never become aware of ethical standards being set up and enforced upon the media nor of any "oaths of decency" that these people must take.

I would stop well short of saying that lawsuits are permissible for internet gaffs but banning is a pretty small consequence for rubbing everyones face in the excrement espoused by minds akin to BOS.

Whatever happened to manners????


wow interesting ideas there buddy.
:D

no seriuosly

you
bo-cephus
gymnpoppa
frackal
me
nature boy
musclebrains
sushi X
have some open minds.

it nice too see that

I am on vicodin right naw, so forgive the forgotten names
 
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Test boy said:
I'm in my 30's so I well remember what it was like. Impossible not to notice the exponential increases in libel, slander, lawsuits, fraud, depression, suicide, medication, and the breathtaking breakdown of the American family. People simply don't try to cooperate and get along like they used to. It is all about me nowadays.

You may be alarmed if you knew the extent that I hold the media accountable for in contributing to these mega trends. Behavior like BOS's goes unpunished because it is so commonplace and punishment has become a dirty word. In addition, I would argue that writing on this board amounts to a publication of viewpoints so I really don't buy these arguments about "letting it go because it is just an internet chat board." Is the internet a less legitimate form of communication than paper, television, or radio? I don't think so. Actually we have less pressure to respond quickly and so have a lesser excuse for "slips of the tongue."

I'm sure that some would argue that "just anybody" should not be held accountable like a journalist or radio/TV personality. I have never become aware of ethical standards being set up and enforced upon the media nor of any "oaths of decency" that these people must take.

I would stop well short of saying that lawsuits are permissible for internet gaffs but banning is a pretty small consequence for rubbing everyones face in the excrement espoused by minds akin to BOS.

Whatever happened to manners????

Really, really interesting ideas. :D
 
OMEGA said:
I am on vicodin right naw, so forgive the forgotten names
I must live under a rock, I only found out about vicodin/percodan today.

Interesting post TB. You're right, there isn't any conceptual difference between posting on this board and broadcasting to, say, a small cable audience, or writing for a local paper. Sometimes the board feels like a private backyard conversation but everything is "published" for any and all to see, invited or not, as well as archived for later viewers.

Personally I don't care that BOS was banned. I spent a long time reading his bullshit in every thread before giving up on finding anything interesting. MoneyBags, on the other hand, was a total idiot on the clubs thread but wised up on the chat thread. He did occasionally show some smarts and ambition, I thought he had potential in a year. But I'm sure BOS will be back under some new alias. Some people can't take a hint they're not wanted and keep buzzing back for more.

My problem now is that my ignore list is empty, its first and only member is gone. A lot of programmers spent time away from families, working nights and weekends, living on donuts and cola to get that feature working, and few seem to use it. What a crying shame. Quick, somebody, piss me off!!!!! :mad:
 
Island Son said:




My problem now is that my ignore list is empty, its first and only member is gone. A lot of programmers spent time away from families, working nights and weekends, living on donuts and cola to get that feature working, and few seem to use it. What a crying shame. Quick, somebody, piss me off!!!!! :mad:
BOS was also my first occupant on the ignore feature. I'm sure he was on most normal peoples ignore list. Perhaps he got banned because he overloaded the ignore function???
 
IM BACK

HO HO HO MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

How about granny gives you some tit ryan? Would you like that?

Yeah, im back, I never left.

Later champs...or should I say chumps?
 
Test boy said:
BOS was also my first occupant on the ignore feature. I'm sure he was on most normal peoples ignore list. Perhaps he got banned because he overloaded the ignore function???

Yeah, test boy is a cool guy.

I dont care what feces thinks? :confused:
 
Test boy said:
BOS was also my first occupant on the ignore feature. I'm sure he was on most normal peoples ignore list. Perhaps he got banned because he overloaded the ignore function???

if this is true.. why are you the #1 complainer???

you bitched about him more than anyone else.. and you had him on ignore??? HOW???
 
Test boy is a liar. He never had the man on ignore, test boy is just a chump.

ban me mods, ban old BOS again

You dont have the balls?
 
dballer said:


if this is true.. why are you the #1 complainer???

Because we have you and several other jack asses.

you bitched about him more than anyone else.. and you had him on ignore??? HOW???


People quoted him so they could bash him. Ignore doesn't totally work you idiot.

You are back on ignore so there will not be further dialogue.
 
flickenu said:
Test boy is a liar. He never had the man on ignore, test boy is just a chump.

ban me mods, ban old BOS again

You dont have the balls?
Oh shit...we have another another 17 year old kid with no friends so he hits the internet.
 
it's not just here

bump for Test Boy's post. Here's a quote from an article by Adam Greenfield, at http://www.alistapart.com/stories/bathingape/
Swap the word "bodybuilding" or "training" for "design", and it sounds very familiar
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Until fairly recently, that is, when I started to notice a new feeling creeping into the sites I frequented. In what were nominally gathering places to discuss and celebrate online design, design seemed to be just about the last thing on anyone’s mind.

What were people posting on? Let’s just say that, between unchecked misogyny, the impotent fantasies, the retread gangsta speech stylings, and the ruminations on which portal does or does not suck, these places have started to feel more like a junior high school cafeteria than creative communities. (Old Dreamless heads, with their memories of what that good grey place felt like towards the end, will understand just what I mean.)

Finally, someone on one of the sites—unfortunately, someone I’m unable to identify, otherwise I would give credit where it is so richly due—twigged to the single most significant reason why this should be. This wise person pointed out the simple fact that the majority of the people who were posting to this board are not designers, in any strict sense, nor are they interested in design per se.
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once they ban this flickenu handle, BOS aint coming back either.

So I guess this is later elite champs...oops...did I say champs. I meant to say chumps.

What?

I said chumps!

What BOS?

I said you are alll chumps!

What BOS?

I said you are all pussy chumps!

Did I stutter?

No!

Did your mother?

NO, but she gives BOS head.

Bwahahhahaahhaahahah...im so cool.
 
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