Is a class in NOVELL worth taking?

[AmyFlorida]

Hi,

I have the opportunity to take a class in NOVELL from the temp agency I am working for. I am wondering if this is a good idea or a waste of time.

I have very limited exposure in the computer IT field. I do have MOUS certifications and basic computer skills. However, I do want to learn more about the computer field and progress up over a period of time.

The reason I ask if it is a good idea is that I do not see many NOVELL listings in the paper.

Is this a difficult class? Would it be worth the time to take it and have it listed on my resume? Eventually I want to get into WEb Design. But since this class is free.........

Thanks

 

[the nature boy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless it's free and it's not more than like 2 weeks. they're fading in the market. but if it's free you'll learn more about how technology works, making it easier to grasp other concepts. if it's not free no way.

Plus the work you'll do with novell is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay different than the career of a web person. it's like apples and oranges.

 

[TheProject]

Any free class is worth taking, but Novell is kinda dying out, IMHO.

Can't really say how hard it would be, but the more things you've been exposed to in the computer world, the better off you are.

 

[AmyFlorida]

Well the class is free. And a very short class.

Is it similar to UNIX?

 

[TheProject]

Well the class is free. And a very short class.

Is it similar to UNIX?

Well, only in the sense that they're both operating systems...

 

[the nature boy]

short answer yes, long answer no. Unix will help your career more for web development than Novell. But when you use unix there are not as many pretty pictures as there are with windows. You have to type commands out. I think it's better.

But any class is good if it's free. I wish I got free training.

 

[the nature boy]

I run one of the largest computer training companies in the world. Don't waste you time on Novell. The performance of their stock will tell you all you need to know about the current and future state of their business.

you're right, but you can say the same thing about a lot of IT stock prices too.

But novel is out, but if she's got time to kill and it's a short class, why not. exposure would be good for her.

 

[the nature boy]

I run one of the largest monkey training companies in the world.

no fucking way! I love monkeys!

 

[AmyFlorida]

I run one of the largest computer training companies in the world. Don't waste you time on Novell. The performance of their stock will tell you all you need to know about the current and future state of their business.

Should I instead take a basic UNIX class? (and pay)

What about DOS? They are offering that free too.

 

[the nature boy]

Should I instead take a basic UNIX class? (and pay)

What about DOS? They are offering that free too.

DOS! lol, only people in IT would find that funny. Don't take DOS.

As for UNIX, it's good to know. but I'm skeptical about classes. Depends on how much it costs. And you need to keep using it after you're done with classes or you'll forget.

 

[AmyFlorida]

Or what about iNet? What exactly is it?


If someone has a few minutes free.. can they please post a good beginners entry into the computer IT field program? I will check back in an hour after lunch.

but what would be the top 5 classes to take to get a very good understanding and money making skill set? Remember, I have only very basic computer skills.

Something like UNIX, DOS, iNet, or whatever.

 

[naturally anabolic]

if you want to get into the field of IT get your CCNA certification....i cannot stress how much this helps when employers look at your resume.

 

[TheProject]

if you want to get into the field of IT get your CCNA certification....i cannot stress how much this helps when employers look at your resume.

Any certification helps your resume. I don't think the CCNA's any more valuable than another certification at this point.

Plus, I don't know that I'd throw a total newbie into router certs right out of the gate.

 

[naturally anabolic]

Start Out with what DOT said and then follow in this order as you progress in your computer knowledge:

1)A+ Certification
2)Network+ Certification
3)CCNA
4)MCSE+I 2000


Novell WILL NOT hurt as something to add to your resume, regardless of what people say there are alot of companies who still utilize this dying line of networking products.

 

[daemon]

Depends on what your interested in. None of these classes will give you the knowledge needed to get a good paying job. They'll either teach you what you need to know to pass an exam or give you the fundamentals and nothing more.

DOS is dead.
Novell is dead.
Unix is doing fantastic but it's very technical and will take you awhile before you really start to understand it. You might be better off starting somewhere else.
Microsoft might be the best place to start. If your interested in getting into the field, find an entry-level help desk job and learn and grow from there.

 

[the nature boy]

but she wants to get into web development! you guys are giving her info on a network or server admin type path.

As for iNET, I don't know what that is. If you want to find out what it is I can tell you if it's a good skill or not. If it has anything to do with web stuff then that's exactly what you want to do.

 

[naturally anabolic]

Any certification helps your resume. I don't think the CCNA's any more valuable than another certification at this point.

Plus, I don't know that I'd throw a total newbie into router certs right out of the gate.

Yes good point Project....but, i have found from asking around with fellow heads of technology at many companies in my area and in the NYC area that are affilated to us that CCNA is one of the top things they look for in an IT employee.

*im a web design geek with a minor in IT and graphic design so i may not be the most reliable source*

 

[daemon]

if you want to get into the field of IT get your CCNA certification....i cannot stress how much this helps when employers look at your resume.

I disagree. The CCNA has become a paper cert just like the MCSE. Hiring managers have learned that the certification alone without any practical experience means exactly nothing

 

[naturally anabolic]

whoaaaaaa hold the phone....you want to get into web design? ok ok this is what i do so i can be pretty helpful, as far as certification goes, get a perl/java certification, flash and fireworks certs are available as well, and also try to expriment with as many adobe products as you can and even get certified for those if you like.

The biggest thing with Web Design is just being really good with all the languages involved, java, javascript, HTML and all its varients, flash's action script, perl, php....

 

[The MN Bulk]

I am a CNE biased maybe

I think Novells downfall is purely in marketing. No one can say that NetWare is a bad product or for that matter any Novell product. I would say take the training, Novell still has a huge customer base within higher ed. Take the class and get your CNA. Atleast you will have some exposure within networking and some background on networking protocals.

 

[daemon]

It doens't hurt, but probably not worth the time. Novell that is.

If you really want something that is getting hot and probably going to get hotter, a Checkpoint Certified Systems Engineer is probably going to be a big one down the road. If you go through the CCNA track, you could also migrate toward a Cisco Security Engineer. Security is getting hot among Fortune 500 companies as they are being told that cyber terrorism is going to happen and we had better be prepared for it.

I am a CCSE and a CCSA and it hasn't brought me shit. Security market sucks ass right now. At least in SoCal.

I wouldn't advise someone thats new to computers to get into security. It's a very difficult field. You need to have a solid understanding of many different areas of IT. It's much easier to start off doing something else and migrate into security then learn security from the start.

Taking my CISSP March 9th, hopefully that'll bring in some decent offers.