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I've been reading references to "IP" ever since I came to this board. Is this the same as the China dude? And what's up with the weird initials? And how the hell does he make his stuff and why the hell would people buy a totally unregulated product like that?
 
As I have posted a few times in the past, and each time, my post was edited or deleted all together.....

My first cycle - and the quotation marks go around "first" consisted of 40mg IP anavar. 10mg taken every four hours and 400mg of EQ no ester EVERYDAY. This adds up to 280mg of anavar weekly and 2800mg of EQ weekly. I split this cycle with Jae and he did the exact same doses and we gained..... (drumroll)....




wait for it............





NOTHING! I swear, six weeks later - absolutely nothing for both he and I. Couldn't believe it. I mean, sure it could have been underdosed... but then again we should have been able to gain at least one pound. Just out of experimentation, we took two weeks off with no gear and then did 7.5mg of BTG per day. Yes, only three 2.5mg anavar tablets broken up one every five hours and in two weeks, my strength was through the roof.

I have come to the conclusion that IP is nothing but crap. Maybe we had a bad batch, but nevertheless, it was a waste of money. This is why I still maintain that I have never done a steroid cycle yet. IP was crap. Unless you count two weeks on BTG's to be a cycle.
 
As I have posted a few times in the past, and each time, my post was edited or deleted all together.....

My first cycle - and the quotation marks go around "first" consisted of 40mg IP anavar. 10mg taken every four hours and 400mg of EQ no ester EVERYDAY. This adds up to 280mg of anavar weekly and 2800mg of EQ weekly. I split this cycle with Jae and he did the exact same doses and we gained..... (drumroll)....




wait for it............





NOTHING! I swear, six weeks later - absolutely nothing for both he and I. Couldn't believe it. I mean, sure it could have been underdosed... but then again we should have been able to gain at least one pound. Just out of experimentation, we took two weeks off with no gear and then did 7.5mg of BTG per day. Yes, only three 2.5mg anavar tablets broken up one every five hours and in two weeks, my strength was through the roof.

I have come to the conclusion that IP is nothing but crap. Maybe we had a bad batch, but nevertheless, it was a waste of money. This is why I still maintain that I have never done a steroid cycle yet. IP was crap. Unless you count two weeks on BTG's to be a cycle.
 
The IP winny isn't bad...but you have to be careful with the injectables, as i've heard from many a bro about the sterilility of the product, personally, i opt for the ttyoko EQ. AA, why in the hell were you using 2400mg EQ, you are damn fortunate that you got bad shit, cause the sides would have been nuts, as i'm sure you know, EQ behaves very much like dianabol, especially at high doses, the amount of DHT conversion would be insane, sorry for the rant, but geez, you had better do your homework for your next cycle.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
As I have posted a few times in the past, and each time, my post was edited or deleted all together.....

My first cycle - and the quotation marks go around "first" consisted of 40mg IP anavar. 10mg taken every four hours and 400mg of EQ no ester EVERYDAY. This adds up to 280mg of anavar weekly and 2800mg of EQ weekly. I split this cycle with Jae and he did the exact same doses and we gained..... (drumroll)....




wait for it............





NOTHING! I swear, six weeks later - absolutely nothing for both he and I. Couldn't believe it. I mean, sure it could have been underdosed... but then again we should have been able to gain at least one pound. Just out of experimentation, we took two weeks off with no gear and then did 7.5mg of BTG per day. Yes, only three 2.5mg anavar tablets broken up one every five hours and in two weeks, my strength was through the roof.

I have come to the conclusion that IP is nothing but crap. Maybe we had a bad batch, but nevertheless, it was a waste of money. This is why I still maintain that I have never done a steroid cycle yet. IP was crap. Unless you count two weeks on BTG's to be a cycle.


Did you chew the anavar?? If not that was most likely the biggest prob. His tabs have to be chewed or they will not be digested. Just excreted! BTW BTG is the best, because they use buffers to keep stomach acids from breaking it down(hormone itself) before it can be absorbed by the body, as well as being 99.9% pure as opposed to 98% pure for ** and other generics!

As for EQ I like Ttokkyo!!
 
Never.
Always get my orders on time.
Never had a bad experience with his products.
 
I am using his D-Bol right now, and will be starting his winny in about 3 weeks.

600mg TT EQ 1-10 weeks
600mg QV Cyp 1-10 weeks
75mg "BRUCE LEE" D-Bol 1-5 weeks
100mg "KUNG POW" Winny 7-12 weeks

Started at 191 8%bf
Today is the 3rd day of my 4th week: 212 around 9%

I am really happy with my results so far, but I dont think I will use his stuff anymore.
 
If you are happy with his stuff, why would you not use him again? Seems to me he is about 1/5 to 1/10 the cost of others and his stuff works just as well.


As for the worries about his labs and sterility. Here are some of the top AS producing countries in the world. If anyone would even drink the water in most of these places I would be surprised.

India
Egypt
Poland
Russia
Brazil
Mexico
China

Yes some AS are made in 1st world nations, but by far you have most of your gear coming from 2nd and 3rd world nations. IMO our Chinese friend has several advantages. First his entire fortune depends upon his quality and delivery. If the word on the street was that his stuff was bunk or not what he claimed then he would go out of business. The difference in cost chemically speaking is pennies so why would be screw with anyone. Yes maybe a batch will get out that is under dosed but that happens with all companies. Anyone get the 5cc sust by TT when they first released it? I did and my buddy and me both thought we were going to die for a week after the first shot. Seems this legit company had QC issues, which made many others and me very very ill. I have never heard of anyone who thought boval test was dosed correctly and they are as legit as you can get. I see a lot of people bash my Chinese friend who have never tried his gear. My wife, myself and many of my friends have used and loved his stuff. I really don't think it is fair to bash a product when you have no experience with it.

Dex
 
I am not bashing him in anyway, shape, or form.

The reason I dont think I will actually use his products again is because of the 50mg dosages.. I am using 75mg a day of his D-Bol and think I could get just as good of results with 25mg of Pinkys or Naposims.

I love the price of his products, but money is not everything...
 
amaritto
The bashing was not directed at you.

Even if his dbol was only 30mg then its still a better deal than the naps of any other brand. I have seen tests of his dbol and they came in at 48 to 54mg per tab. Honestly I doubt they fall below 40mg on a bad batch. Are you chewing or at least breaking the tabs before swallow them. He puts a coating on his tabs to keep them from breaking up when shipping but also prevents easy digestion. Try breaking the tabs into a few pieces for better results.

dex
 
I am gonna try his drol. But the re-mailer shut down his addy!!!
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
As I have posted a few times in the past, and each time, my post was edited or deleted all together.....

My first cycle - and the quotation marks go around "first" consisted of 40mg IP anavar. 10mg taken every four hours and 400mg of EQ no ester EVERYDAY. This adds up to 280mg of anavar weekly and 2800mg of EQ weekly. I split this cycle with Jae and he did the exact same doses and we gained..... (drumroll)....




wait for it............





NOTHING! I swear, six weeks later - absolutely nothing for both he and I. Couldn't believe it. I mean, sure it could have been underdosed... but then again we should have been able to gain at least one pound. Just out of experimentation, we took two weeks off with no gear and then did 7.5mg of BTG per day. Yes, only three 2.5mg anavar tablets broken up one every five hours and in two weeks, my strength was through the roof.

I have come to the conclusion that IP is nothing but crap. Maybe we had a bad batch, but nevertheless, it was a waste of money. This is why I still maintain that I have never done a steroid cycle yet. IP was crap. Unless you count two weeks on BTG's to be a cycle.

Did you gain any strength from it? I'm sure you know that anavar and EQ is not exactly a mass-gaining combination. I wouldn't expect to gain more than 2 or 3 pounds from that cycle, and I wouldn't be surprised if I lost weight.
 
VooDoo Lady said:
amaritto
The bashing was not directed at you.

Even if his dbol was only 30mg then its still a better deal than the naps of any other brand. I have seen tests of his dbol and they came in at 48 to 54mg per tab. Honestly I doubt they fall below 40mg on a bad batch. Are you chewing or at least breaking the tabs before swallow them. He puts a coating on his tabs to keep them from breaking up when shipping but also prevents easy digestion. Try breaking the tabs into a few pieces for better results.

dex

Ok, wasnt sure. I like his price and so far the quality has been good so I really have nothing to bitch about.

I do not think his pills are grossly underdosed, I just like the fact that you can go up by 5mg increments with other brands.

I am taking 1.5 pills a day. I break them in half the best I can and take half at 9am, half at 1:30 and half at around 6:30-7pm. I am up 20lbs in 3.5 weeks so I do not think they are bunk.:D
 
I've had good luck with I.P.'s Anavar, Winny, Dbol, Clen. But i also ordered 2,000 hydrocodone at the same time. And it never showed up?????? Oh well i got what i really needed.
 
VooDoo Lady said:
amaritto
The bashing was not directed at you.

Even if his dbol was only 30mg then its still a better deal than the naps of any other brand. I have seen tests of his dbol and they came in at 48 to 54mg per tab. Honestly I doubt they fall below 40mg on a bad batch. Are you chewing or at least breaking the tabs before swallow them. He puts a coating on his tabs to keep them from breaking up when shipping but also prevents easy digestion. Try breaking the tabs into a few pieces for better results.

dex


30 mg of naps being more expensive than one 50 mg Ip dbol ? humm ye maybe, well 6 naps would cost me about 1,25$ let's say, but at least I know what I get. It's 5 mg everytime. Anavar is something different. 10 mg of IP and 4 x 2.5 mg of BTG is way different.
 
To those who replied with questions:

We (Jae and I) were taking 400mg of EQ daily because it was the no ester brand he first started making. We would take 200mg in the AM and 200mg in the PM.

Yes, I chewed the anavar. Chewed them well, into powder and just to be safe, let it sit under my tongue for a minute. (sublingal method).

I gained NOTHING. After 6 weeks of 40mg anavar daily and 400mg EQ daily, the only thing I had to show for it was lumps and bruised from all the injections. I gained/lost ZERO pounds. My strength did not go up at all. (a sure sign anavar is good) and my bodyfat has always been very low (read: I can see my serratus) but I did not go through the "hardening" stage with his anavar or EQ. Now when I did the BTG's, I only did them for 2 weeks. My weight went up three pounds, I added 4 extra reps on the weight I was benching for 8 to make it 12 reps, and I could see my body hardening up. I had a pump just waking up in the morning.


Neither of us gained shit off that cycle. I have since decided that I WILL NOT RUIN A MILLION DOLLAR BODY WITH BARGAIN BASEMENT STEROIDS.
 
I have heard his batches are hit and miss. Apprently we got a "miss" batch.
 
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