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Interesting and Fun Summer Cut Log

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Sup bros and girls, decided I would run a log of my summer cut, I just started today :).

Stats: 5'10 195 pounds , 18% b.f.

I was at about 175 pounds with 10 % bf , but I really let myself go out of control on a vacation to hawaii, eating all the good but unhealthy things , some famous places such as Matsumutos Shave Ice and Leonards Malsadas ( think thats how you spell it ) , I completely devoured a 1lb burger with a LOT of tater tots in about 5-7 mins ,from a famous place in Idaho w as well during my break point is I went nuts on unhealthy food since, I havent done that in YEARS, and dont ever plan on getting that out of control again.

I do have a few cycles under my belt , test ,test winny, test dbol, beastdrol, more test , have ran clen , t3 before and eca.

So for this cycle im going to be using
Test P 100mg ED weeks 1-10 ( if someone thinks 200 mg EOD would be better from personal experience or if its just the same go ahead and chime in , I wouldnt mind not having to inject everyday :P)

Tren E 400 mg weeks 1-10 Every week , 200 mg injection Monday and Thursday.

GP Oral Tren ( Methyltrienolone) weeks 1-4 (kick start for the real tren :D ) 500 mcg first day see how that works and I plan on getting up to 1 mg , iv recently heard of people getting up to 2 -3 mg but that seems to high but I will adjust accordingly. I have also read as MUCH info as I could on this , sad thing is I think I found 1 or 2 logs on it and they werent that good so I decided id make my own of it since so many people ask about it.

T3 weeks 1-8 , 25mcg first couple days then 50 mcg for a couple days , then cruise on 75 MAYBE 100 depending on how my strength is doing.

Clen weeks 1-3 2 weeks off , With Benadryl added on 2nd week at 60 mg nightly, start at 40 mcg and ill bump up to 160 mcg.

For pct I have both nolva and clomid ready

Multi Vitamin 2x daily.

Diet : Keto Style , starting out at 2535 calories, 161 g fat . 38g carbs - the 12g of fiber = 26g net carbs , 233g protein ( im not sure if this is too much ? some people say to much protein on keto actually is bad and could possibly take you out , thoughts please??)
Dont have much of a set time for my food schedule I try to eat when I get too hungry but I do make sure to have a post workout shake and a meal after my morning cardio . Food that Ill be eating for those of you wondering.. Eggs, Chicken breast, Salmon Burger , String cheese , protein powder shake for post workout, almonds, turkey slice switched in with ham slice, olive oil, and provolone cheese, I plan on reducing my calories to 1800-2000 range at the lowest peak while still keeping my protein at about 1g per lb of body weight.

Training : Monday ; Chest+ tris , Tuesday ; Back+ bis , Thursday Shoulders +abs . Friday Legs .

Cardio everyday , on a empty stomach for about 45 mins - 1hr depending on how im feeling , at a walking pace .

Day 1 is today and am feeling fine thus far.
 
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Hmm I got the test P in smooth but then when I did the tren I aspirated and no blood came out so I went ahead and injected that also but then near the end when I was done injecting the tren in , some blood came in through the needle right as I was about to pull the needle out, im a little freaked out right now , I seriously hope it didnt go through a vein !!
 
just got back from workout took 500 mcg oral tren pre workout nothing noticeable though so far. im still concerned about that tren E injection but from what I read if I went throug ha vein or injected in a vein id have bad coughs , out of breath , and not feeling good at all , but so far all I feel is shaky from the clen so I think I should be okay .
 
Day 2
Bumped up my T3 Dosage to 50 mcg , debating weather to go to 75 mcg or just cruise at 50 till the tren kick in ...
Woke up did fasted walking cardio for about 45 mins
Also bumped up clen dosage im at 120 mcg
Also Im bumping my Gp Oral Tren to 1mg hehe , took 500 mcg with breakfast and going to take 500 mcg before workout
Also reduced my calories by about 100 by taking out a slice of cheese.
Right thighs pretty sore from injection , about to inject some more prop 100 mg.
 
Took 500 mcg preworkout today didnt really notice to much of a difference but usually all those things that people claim help them out preworkout dont really work for me , im almost always 100% on focus when I start lifting , I got a normal pump as well , so far so good , just gotta keep patient and the results will start kicking in.
 
Day 3 : Just got back from 45 mins of cardio felt really good so far im not having any lethargy during my cardio which is weird usually when I cut and esp on low carbs I have major lethargy , maybe it just hasnt kicked in yet . Today is a rest day will probably go swimming for a bit just to get out in the sun and burn some calories the fun way. Diet is still in check , im decreasing by an extra 100 calories by again removing a slice of cheese.

Clen I bumped up and am now at 160 mcg and will stay at this for the rest of the 3 weeks.
T3 at 50 mcg today still
Test P 100 MG everyday still
Oral Tren still at 1mg split between 500 mcg morning and 500 mcg in the evening , sticking with this for about 5 more days and will bump it up to 1.5 mg if I feel its safe.
Tren E shot tomorrow @ 200mg
 
Thanks Zed appreciate the help , just ordered some Forma , and after doing some research it sounds like a wonderful thing to have all the time. I also have Anavar readily available so I MIGHT use that and bridge it for a few weeks , not 100% sure on this though .
 
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Day 4 : Just got done doing morning routine of cardio , eating , and injecting . The injection for Tren was really smooth and no problems this time , then I injected the Prop and the same thing happened as when I first injected the Tren , where after im all done getting the juice in and am about to pull the needle out a tinyyyy bit of blood comes in at the bottom of the needle then when I pulled it out this time blood squirted out but I already had the alcohol pads ready to go for things like this , so I put it the spot and waited for a minute then it was all done, not sure if this means anything ??? Both quads are sore from injections but after a while they will get use to it.

One thing I would also like to note is that the Oral Tren seems to kill my apetite! I have never ran across any other substance or fat burner that has killed my apetite like this ! I pretty much ate 70% of my calories all in one sitting for my dinner and passed out because I was so tired, not sure if that was a smart move or bad move , but on this stuff I just dont seem to have hunger pangs or seem to think about food 24/7 like I have in the past when dieting down. Not to many other things to note so far about this substance though.

Calories are at 2215 , Fat=130.5g 53% carbs are at 26g net carbs 7%, Proteins at 222g 40% I think this should be a good spot to keep them at for a week or two.

Today is shoulders and abs for my workout.

Took 50 mcg T3 as soon as I woke up then went and did cardio for 45 mins
Took 160 mcg Clen with breakfast
Took 500 mcg Oral Tren with break fast
Injected 200 mg Tren E
Injected 100 mg Test P
 
sebaco2011 said:
Day 4 : Just got done doing morning routine of cardio , eating , and injecting . The injection for Tren was really smooth and no problems this time , then I injected the Prop and the same thing happened as when I first injected the Tren , where after im all done getting the juice in and am about to pull the needle out a tinyyyy bit of blood comes in at the bottom of the needle then when I pulled it out this time blood squirted out but I already had the alcohol pads ready to go for things like this , so I put it the spot and waited for a minute then it was all done, not sure if this means anything ??? Both quads are sore from injections but after a while they will get use to it.
Dont know if I told you or not yet...
Heat that shit up before you inject. Then after you inject massage the hell out of the injection site a couple of times.
Also for most peeps Prop just plain hurts and thats the way it is. You may be one of these bro.
One thing I would also like to note is that the Oral Tren seems to kill my apetite! I have never ran across any other substance or fat burner that has killed my apetite like this ! I pretty much ate 70% of my calories all in one sitting for my dinner and passed out because I was so tired, not sure if that was a smart move or bad move , but on this stuff I just dont seem to have hunger pangs or seem to think about food 24/7 like I have in the past when dieting down. Not to many other things to note so far about this substance though.
Cant help you here bro. I have not done oral Tren.

Calories are at 2215 , Fat=130.5g 53% carbs are at 26g net carbs 7%, Proteins at 222g 40% I think this should be a good spot to keep them at for a week or two.

Today is shoulders and abs for my workout.

Took 50 mcg T3 as soon as I woke up then went and did cardio for 45 mins
Took 160 mcg Clen with breakfast
Took 500 mcg Oral Tren with break fast
Injected 200 mg Tren E
Injected 100 mg Test P
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PLz tell me about your experience with the T3 bro. Am using it for the first time but IDK if its doing anything or not:confused:.
Thanks bro and keep up the good log!
 
Just got back from the gym (took 500mcg Oral tren preworkout) and it went well nothing special though , man for me nothing hits the shoulders and traps better then barbell shrugs I LOVE them!

Yeah Zed Ill try heating them up using a blow drier and ill definitely try the massage , thanks for tips bro!
About the Oral Tren killing my appetite , im meaning it in a good way lol, it helps one of the biggest things about dieting which is that whole mental aspect for being hungry and being so weak and just thinking and craving food nonstop and hoping the next couple hours or so will pass so you can eat your next meal , well for me thats one of the hardest parts about dieting , but with this oral tren it seems to just knock that whole aspect out. So thats already a bonus in my book!

As for the T3 Its going to be really tough to tell how effective it is since im using clen with it and am on such a strict diet/cardio, along with test and tren , but im sure its helping , this is only day 4 but I am starting to appear leaner but im sure some of it has to do with not holding as much water weight since im not eating carbs. As you can see right now its at 50 mcg and I feel thats a good spot , might bump it up later on once the tren kicks in.
 
sebaco2011 said:
Just got back from the gym (took 500mcg Oral tren preworkout) and it went well nothing special though , man for me nothing hits the shoulders and traps better then barbell shrugs I LOVE them!

Yeah Zed Ill try heating them up using a blow drier and ill definitely try the massage , thanks for tips bro! I get the water running as hot as I can. Then I put the stopper in the sink and run the water up to the top of the label on the vials. Let the set in there for several minutes.

About the Oral Tren killing my appetite , im meaning it in a good way lol, it helps one of the biggest things about dieting which is that whole mental aspect for being hungry and being so weak and just thinking and craving food nonstop and hoping the next couple hours or so will pass so you can eat your next meal , well for me thats one of the hardest parts about dieting , but with this oral tren it seems to just knock that whole aspect out. So thats already a bonus in my book!

As for the T3 Its going to be really tough to tell how effective it is since im using clen with it and am on such a strict diet/cardio, along with test and tren , but im sure its helping , this is only day 4 but I am starting to appear leaner but im sure some of it has to do with not holding as much water weight since im not eating carbs. As you can see right now its at 50 mcg and I feel thats a good spot , might bump it up later on once the tren kicks in.
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thanks for this bro!
 
Day 5

Took my 50 mcg T3 then went and did cardio , came back and ate some breakfast and took my 500 mcg oral tren , shot up 100 mg test prop everything went nice and smooth .

Todays workout (took 500 mcg Oral tren preworkout) was Legs and my legs were already super sore from the shots so it was really hard to train them but I tried my best.

So far my moods not to bad a little bit lethargic but its tolerable , havent had any bad side effects from the substances iv been taking so far , other then the Clen cramps which were eliminated with the right minerals like Taurine and Potassium. Other then that everythings still good .
 
Looking good here bro!
 
Thanks Zed really helps to know that I got at least one person following me :)

Day 6

Legs are definitely sore from yesterdays leg workout and from the shots.Today is a rest day , I still do cardio 7 days a week though , everythings still fine, I have noticed though that I can get very angry a little bit easier now , for example I was cooking my chicken breast last nite and my roomate kept fucking with them like flipping them over even though I just got done flipping them, then he touched them with the fork that had all this stupid bbq sauce and other crap on it , and he knows im dieting down, It was super hard for me not to go ragesaurus rex on his ass!
Then he wouldnt shut up about offering me some of his food which was his bbq sauce seasoned chicken , and salad loaded with salad dressing , he kept on saying come on this is healthy stuff right here its protein and vegetables, I didnt even bother responding I just turned my back on walked away.
Pinned 100 mg Prop everything went super smooth
Took my 50 mcg T3 on empty stomach
Took 500 mcg oral tren with breakfast and going to take another 500 mcg in the evening .
It also appears that I am starting to get a little bit more acne then usual around the shoulders and upper back.

No big plans for today maybe just a bit of laying out in the sun and possibly swimming .

Also just an fyi I did get some before pics and I will take mid cycle pics as well as after pics when the cycles done , and I will post them once its all done :) Pics have always been my way of seeing someones body transform I prefer it over someone just saying how much weight they lost or gained .
 
Bro your rommy sounds like a PIA....
Looking forward to seeing the pics man!
Would be nice to have some honest to goodness sunshine to lay around in. We are overcast as usual these days.
 
Day 7

Did my 45 mins of cardio

Rest day again today , definitely sore in the legs from the combination of pinning and training them...

Pinned 100 mg prop , everything went nice and smooth.

50 mcg T3

160 mcg Clen

BUMPED up my Oral Tren dosage by 250 mcg so I took 750 mcg with breakfast and going to take another 500 mcg in the evening .
Ill keep at this dosage for another 3 days , then ill bump it to 1.5 mg depending on how im feeling .

Also just started taking in 600 mg of milk thistle a day to help the liver out as im sure its not getting along with tren :P

Still getting the clen shakes ( not that it really bothers me ) , and have definitely been getting more acne on my upper back and shoulders and a little bit on the face , and skins a bit more oils .

Not a whole lot else to report about .
 
You should also add in Forged Liver Support bro. And be drinking at least a gal of water per day. Better a gal and a half.
Keep you BP monitored too.
 
Yeah iv been forcing myself to drink as much water as possible Zed , I would add in that forged but I think the milk thistle should do the job and after the 4 weeks of this im not going to give my liver a break but still continue the milk thistle to make sure its healthy , also I have never been a big drinker or used too many orals in the past, not only that but after this cycle Ill be taking a long break from aas probably double the time off that I was on this stuff so it will be about a 6 month break due to my job . yeah I have been monitoring my blood pressure by the way my body feels and I can tell its a little higher then normal but its nothing different then beastdrol so far.
 
Day 8 . Last monday I was at 195 when I weighed in , now today im at 180.6 , most of this was water weight though .

Diet is also still in check .

45 mins of cardio

Ill be doing Chest and Tri today at gym later on

I bumped up my t3 dosage to 75 mcg now I did this because I had talked to a few people and they said it would be fine and that with the anabolics I'm on I should be fine . This is my sticking point and I will stay at this dosage for the next 7 weeks.

Clen is still at 160 mcg , and Im going to be taking benadryl for about 3 weeks now starting today . I feel this will help me run ths clen for 3 weeks then take 2 weeks off and then get back on it .

Oral Tren I also bumped up dosage , im slowly making my way up to 2mg. I also figured that a higher dosage of this should help with the higher dosage of T3 . Right now im at 1.5 mg of this tren... 750 mcg with breakfast , and 750 mcg pre workout.

Test Prop 100 mg today

Tren E 200 mg today

Both shots went well except the Tren hurt like a son of bitch for some reason.

Ill report about strength gains in in about 2 -3 more weeks since I feel then I will have a basic knowledge of my lifts because right now im just starting to get back into everything and letting my body adjust , I always like doing it this way rather then getting back into the gym from a long break and going all out nuts , I feel like that it just overtrains the muscles and is overkill.

I wish I would have barbell benched last week to see if my strength has gone up when I do it today , but unfortunately last week some idiot at the gym had to of done at least 8 sets of bench so I didnt feel like waiting, and for another major lift such as squat I could not do this at ALL my legs were to sore from the injection sites since I havent injected for a while, ill try doing them again this friday but I still dont know if they will be healed enough , not trying to be a puss but I could barely go through leg workout and on alot of the exercises I couldn't go all the way through the range of motions for legs because my legs just wouldnt let me know matter how hard I tried.

As for the other major lift which is deadlift I usually dont do this when dieting down especially with no carbs not only because its hard to do this exercise with the lack of carbs but also I feel I dont get as much benefit from it as I do from a calorie surplus phase so ill usually just replace deadlifts with a different exercise usually a combination of pulls ups , and chinups and some rows, unless im feeling really good and can do this , otherwise I save this for bulking .

Mirror wise I do seem to be a little bit more leaner it, it is only week 1 though so im not expecting too much yet .
 
Nice update bro.
You might consider still doing DL, but like 1x5 heavy. That your not gonna overdo it.
Regards bro!
 
Day 9

Everythings still going strong.

Cardio 45 mins

75 mcg T3 , 160 mcg clen ( started taking benadryl last night so I could get a total of 3 weeks of clen / 2 weeks off ) , 1.5mg oral tren

100 mg Prop

Switching my calories a bit , I know I said I would stay about about 2300 for 2-3 weeks but I feel that I could lower them to 2100 and still be fine . So right now im at 2075 calories, now this I do plan on sticking to for 2-3 weeks . Still going it keto style as well , I dont plan on having a carb up , just keep on running keto all the way through until im at a low body fat.

Starting to notice im getting a bit leaner nothing special so far though .

My goal isn't to lose weight neccesarily BUT for some reason my recruiter in the Air Force said I have to meet the weight guidelines which is 181 for my height at 5'10 its usually 191 for that height but he said his boss makes him do 10 pounds under that , I wonder if this is even allowed ??? This is in my opinion the biggest bullshit, when I first came in I was at 195 and 11.3% bodyfat ( tested by calipers ) and I had to diet down even though I was in really good shape and could EASLY go through all the physical requirements needed. So even though im under my max weight goal which is 181 I really do feel that ill reach my desired body fat at about 170 pounds.

The only thing is once im at 170 and the desired body fat I would like to start gaining some mass and strength and get to 190 but 195 would be my goal , I just cant bulk up till im all done with basic then I guess the weight requirement doesnt matter , so ill be sticking at a low body weight for a few months .

Todays workout was pretty good also , I didn't really get any good pumps I think its from the lack of carbs , but I did feel really focused in .

Oh and btw Zed I did deadlifts today I did 3 sets , first set was 12 reps then 2nd was 5 then the 3rd set I hit about 7 reps . I didnt go all the way down though I just used mainly the part where your back is being used the most , mostly because of my damn legs being to sore it wasnt going to happen. Plus I saw a video where Dorian Yates reccomended not going all the way down when training back , just to go to a certain point where its pretty much using nothing but back muscles, and I love doing it this way I can really just focus on my back and it works excellent!
 
Hey if you like doing it that way then keep on bro.
BTW what you are doing sounds like Rack Pulls without the rack.
 
Yeah its somewhat like rack pulls , I do put it on the racks to rest it and take it off , but I take it off and step back and just go as far down as possible with the prime focus on working my back then once I feel its working the legs to much then I lift it back up. Zed so hows your cycle coming along ? What cycle you on ?
 
Am on TRT bro. Right now on a cruise.
Am planning a blast cruise for a long term mass cycle tho.
Right now trying to get my goods together for the first blast.
That will be Either Dbol, Deca and Test or Drol, Deca and Test.
Of course I have my Aeromasin and am waiting of my Dostinex or Forma Stanzonal, have not decided which yet.
Also gonna be using Peptides-Ipam. Would also love to run CJC but IDK if I can afford that much.
 
Hmmm I gotcha mate , ohh chemicals eh ? I read about that stuff recently, nothing major , but it definitely caught my attention and still thinking about it for in the future. They confuse the hell out of me since theirs so many and I wouldn't know which to get , I do hear that Ghrp-6 is like hgh but a shitload cheaper.

Aren't you also running some t3 mate? Hows it working for ya ?

Btw trt = test replacement therapy ?

hmm that mass cycle sounds good either way , never tried drol I just decided to go with dbol for the cost and I heard less side effects but I think drol also gives better strength gains .

What are your stats atm mate just curious ?
 
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Hmmm I gotcha mate , ohh chemicals eh ? I read about that stuff recently, nothing major , but it definitely caught my attention and still thinking about it for in the future. They confuse the hell out of me since theirs so many and I wouldn't know which to get , I do hear that Ghrp-6 is like hgh but a shitload cheaper.
Just real briefly peptides dont replace your on natty GH. Rather they give it a boost.

Aren't you also running some t3 mate? Hows it working for ya ?
Yeah I am. So far not too impressed with it. Dont know if I got bunk stuff or if I just dont react to it. As of yesterday am up to 150mcg/day.


Btw trt = test replacement therapy ? yup!

hmm that mass cycle sounds good either way , never tried drol I just decided to go with dbol for the cost and I heard less side effects but I think drol also gives better strength gains . yup again.

What are your stats atm mate just curious ?
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age 50
weight 233Lbs
height 6'1"
dont know my maxes on any lifts cuz have not done in who knows how long.
Bench 5x5@225
DL 1x5@390
Bent over row 5x5@225
for now.....:evil:
 
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Oh okay gotcha Zed, wow 6 '1 and 133 lbs you must be a lean mofo , why you wanting to use t3 if your already that slim mate? Btw what are you looking for in the T3? I mean for me I dont notice it having any effects that I can identify it , but im sure its working because im looking way leaner , I mean with clen its easy to identify for me because of the shakes .. Some people get hot or sweat on t3 or some other weird side effects but I dont and neither does my friend . Guess everyones differnet but out T3 is legit definitely legit .

Day 10

1 hour of cardio today ( bumped it up because I just did a walk outside for about an hour and im sure my pace wasn't as fast as it was on the treadmill, but it was nice to go outside and do cardio )

100 mg prop

75 mcg T3

160 mcg clen ( still taking benadryl at night which in which case I take 75 mg )

Im now taking 2 mg of Oral Tren , 1 mg with breakfast and 1 mg pre workout ... this is my stopping point if I went any higher I would feel that it would be way to unsafe , I did read a thread last night about a Moderator and another forum who went up to 8mg but died at that dosage , so even though 2 mg is far from 8 I still feel safe at 8 and I know people have gone up to 2.5 mg but I still feel safe and im sure its still really effective at 2mg . The thing that gets me is on the sites that sell it they say 1-2 pills are reccomended , and the site is usually pretty good at giving dosage information , so its pretty interesting since im taking about 10x that amount lol, definitely dont plan on taking orals for a longgg time.

I do notice my midsection is getting leaner , my mood is still the same never really changes with any type of drug or preworkout supplement that I take though. Diet is still going strong , although I had a dream where I fucked up on my diet and ate some deserts and other bad foods I was fucking pissed at myself in the dream I was like damn't Iv already gone a week and im going strong and then I fuck up ??? Then I woke up and I was like holy shit im so glad that was a fucking dream!!! It felt so real it was crazy shit lol.

Legs are still sore , if their still this sore on leg day im going to have to take some advil or ibuprofen to train even though thats one more oral drug I dont want my liver taking lol.

Oh and Zed when you say those boost your natural GH do they boost it more then the HGH that is as expensive as fuck ? Or do they give the same amount of hgh total or would you say its just a tad bit weaker ?
 
OOPS!!!
TYPO TYPO TYPO.
Man that would not be lean that would be anerxic!
233 lbs!
Aint no little skinny stick boy here bro!
I be a beefy one bro!:evil:

Using the T3 to help loose a little bit of belly fat and mild love handles.
 
yeah I figured you meant 233 LOL... why dont you start a log mate ? It really helps :)
 
Ya know once I get all my stuff together I just may do that. No reason not to........
 
Day 11

45 mins cardio

75 mcg T3

160 mcg Clen ( with 75 mg Benadryl at night )

600 mg Milk Thistle at night as well
Pinned 200 mg Tren E , when I was pinning this it hurt like a mofo! but I finally got it all the way in the skin , aspirated and blood came out and that sucked, then pulling it out hurt like a mofo also , after that I just pinned again and found a good spot.

100 mg Test Prop VERYYYY smooth injection it was weird absolutely no pain at all not even when I was pulling the needle out ( the worst part imo) !

2 Mg oral tren total .. 1mg with breakfast and took 1 mg before workout

Todays workout was shoulders and abs , nothing spectacular to write about it , but it was a good workout .

I am noticing myself getting leaner , mostly in the midsection , my chest also seems to be a bit harder as well .

My apetite is still doing good , Im not super hungry all the time but when im put around foods that look very delicious it does sound amazing to just pig out on it . I am still eating about 2000-2100 calories a day all keto style , so high fat and protein , some people reccomend carbing up for those who are working out , and their are diets like that such as the anabolic diet , ckd , bodyopus diet, etc. It would be nice to have a carb up day but then again I talked to a friend at the gym whos a bodybuilding competitor ( not natural , thats for sure LOL) and he said it wouldn't really be needed , it could be used to help a bit with energy levels and possibly help strength and preserve muscle some . But since im on this cycle that the muscle preservation shouldn't be much of a issue , and if I just stick to this it would help remove the fat faster then having to carb up every week or 2 and then have to wait a 2-3 days to get into keto . So im just going to be sticking with this and so far its working excellent , cant imagine how well my bodys going to do once the real Tren starts kicking in .
 
Yeah bro I get that sometimes too. When putting that needle in.....
Ok try this, when you get your compound into the syringe and when you push any air out, let a little bit of the compound go out and run down the needle. This lubricates that needle and it helps some. Also sometimes I rotate the needle/syringe going in. To me when its hurting that seems to help. I call this drilling in it LOL!
 
haha Zed , yeah I always get the liquid on the tip of the needle and it runs down no matter what, I found the sweet spot on my right thigh where I just barely poke it and it goes in and is painless, just gotta find that spot on the left leg.

Day 12

45 mins cardio

75mcg T3

2mg Oral Tren (1mg in morning , 1mg in the evening )

100 mg Test P ( another really good and easy injection)

160 mcg clen ( still followed by 75mgs of Benadryl at night )

600 mcg Milk Thistle

Today was a leg workout day , and I did attempt a couple reps of squat but my legs still arent fully recovered from the shots , although there WAYYY better now , plus the spot where I nicked something in my left leg hurt like a son of a ***** when I attempted these , and I didn't pop any advil because I forgot about oh well less stress on liver anyways.

All and all though it was a really good workout , just did about 16 sets total for the whole leg at about 20 reps each set , once my legs are done being whusses im going to start going heavier and definitely going to be squatting. Mentally today was a SUPER good leg workout day , I didn't take the oral tren preworkout just because it was only about 3 hours from breakfast that I took the 1mg of it . BUT I did finally put songs onto my new ipod , and wow if you are use to listening to music when you workout and then you take a few weeks break from listening to it when you workout , and you come back with new songs and start listening to it again , it really gets ya pumped !

I need to start practicing my jogging for the military , I need to do the 1.5 mile in 9:30 seconds . So I think im going to jog 1 mile 3 days a week , then increase it to 1.5 miles the next week and then after that 2 miles . Not to sure if this is going to be to catabolic because I know some people highly dislike jogging cardio and prefer low intensity cardio but im hoping my gear will help preserve the muscle.

I might even switch jogging up to some sprinting , not sure which would be better for preserving the most muscle , but I always LOVED sprints because of football . So maybe something like 10 . 40 yard sprints followed by a 15 - 30 second break in between sprints . Any suggestions on which would help raise my stamina for the 1.5 mile , AND preserve the most muscle ???

What sucks is I here tren can kill your stamina , so ill definitely have to work even harder.
 
Day 13

45 mins cardio

75 mcg T3

2mg oral tren split into 2 1mg doses.

100 mg test prop

160 mcg clen

75 mg benadryl

600 mg milk thistle

Rest day today so now a whole lot to talk about, just going to go grocery shopping and tan out in the sun perhaps some swimming . No side effects from any of the drugs so far , I do notice that im always really lethargic in the morning , but after eating at lunch or just going outside and trying to be productive that the lethargy does go away.
 
Also on your injections.
I find that when I get in a hurry and try to push the juice in too fast, then Im sore.
So try going a little bit slower. Also when I go slower I find that it takes a lot less pressure on the plunger.
Hope this helps bro.
 
Yeah thanks ZH! Yup I learned that also supposedly it should take about 15-25 seconds to inject it in , I usually take about 30 seconds or so just to make sure its nice and slow , if I do go to fast I definitely feel a sort of tingly feeling in the injection spot and it doesn't feel to well. Hows the T3 working out for ya ? are you running thing else along with it besides the TRT ?
 
sebaco2011 said:
Yeah thanks ZH! Yup I learned that also supposedly it should take about 15-25 seconds to inject it in , I usually take about 30 seconds or so just to make sure its nice and slow , if I do go to fast I definitely feel a sort of tingly feeling in the injection spot and it doesn't feel to well. Hows the T3 working out for ya ? are you running thing else along with it besides the TRT ?
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...... 1 minute per ml .... :coffee:
 
sebaco2011 said:
Yeah thanks ZH! Yup I learned that also supposedly it should take about 15-25 seconds to inject it in , I usually take about 30 seconds or so just to make sure its nice and slow , if I do go to fast I definitely feel a sort of tingly feeling in the injection spot and it doesn't feel to well. Hows the T3 working out for ya ? are you running thing else along with it besides the TRT ?
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Nah bro, just the TRT and T3 for now. At 150mcg per day I think I am feeling it.......
I get a real good sweat on about 3 min into my warm up. But that could just be the humidity here too.
I decided that Im just gonna keep on it for about 4 weeks and then taper back off it. At any rate not too impressed at this point with T3.:rolleyes:
 
hehe thanks brown , ill try going way slower then ,
Zed , interesting thats a damn good amount of T3 you lost any muscle yet since your only running a TRT dose ? yeah I wish there was more evidence of just how much T3 actually helps like how much it raises your metabolism or how many calories it burns or so forth at each 25 mcg dose , that way you could see what it's doing at 75 or 100 mcg or so on.

Day 14

45 mins cardio

75 mcg T3

160 mcg clen

75 mg benadryl

600 mg milk thistle

100 mg prop , when I pinned it hurt just like it did not to long ago where when I aspirated back blood came out so I didnt even bother to stick it in because I recognized the pain , so I just withdrew it and piked a spot like a centimeter right of that spot and it went in nice and smooth.

2 mg oral tren split into two 1mg doses.

Rest day today , my right leg hurts like a mofo where iv been injecting it , I think this is mostly from being sore from leg day and the pain of injections though . Going to be hanging out with some buddies at a a lake today going to go swimming and mess around lay out in the sun , body isn't exactly what I would like it to be for this event but its definitely WAY better since the first day I started this log.

Went and checked my heart rate and wal mart on that machine they have by the pharmacy and blood pressure as well...
heart Rate was 108 .. systolic pressure was 133 mmhg (pre hypertension is 120-139) diastolic pressure was 69 (normal is below 80) ... damn heart rate was high from the clen :) maybe even the t3 rasied it a little as well.
 
No bro not really seeing any loss of anything.
Sometimes I think my mid section is smaller but that right there says not much is going on.
I was thinking I would see a sigificant diff pretty quickly...
 
Yeah Zed I agree, I almost just took the --- I have for this cycle but I figured it wouldn't be a good idea with the mix of test prop , oral tren ,tren E , all of which are new substances that I haven't tried. I heard tren had gave some nasty night sweats so I didn't want to pair that with ---LOL. If I could go back I would most likely not use the oral tren and just run --- and test prop for 2-4 weeks and then run it with oral tren after discontinuing it . But my results right now are still pretty good.

Day 15

Weekly weigh in ... 179 not down alot at all really from last week kind of suprising .

75 mcg T3

100 mg test prop ( I pinned first time went in easy but I aspirated and saw blood so I chose another spot , and I aspirated and was like is that new blood or the old blood so I poked ANOTHER spot and aspirated and I couldnt even tell if it was the old blood or new blood coming through , so I just said what the hell and injected , im fine so I dont think anything bad happened lol)

200 mg tren E ( went in really smoth and easy )

160 mcg clen

75 mg benadryl

600 mg milk thistle

2mg oral tren (1 mg in morning 1mg in the evening )

Diet is still in track im at about 2000 calories a day still with about 26 g's of net carbs.

Today was chest and tris . I was excited to see if my bench had gone up at all from last week sadly it didn't nor did my dumbell bench in fact I felt a bit lethargic not much but still just a bit , didn't have alot of stamina at all it seemed like during dumbell whenever I would go in for a lower right to get about 10 reps I would end up going only 5 or so even when I lowered the weight.

Triceps seemed stronger today doing the pulldowns but then I tried doing behind the neck tricept extension with a 45 pound weight and wow I was able to do it before no problem ( I remember doing this on my 20 mg beastdrol , 25 mcg T3 , and 160 mcg clen ) so then I had to drop down to a damn 35 pound weight and that really pissed me off because I was easly able to bust out the 45 plate for triceps with a burnout but I had to use the 35 pound ! It might have just been because I gave my triceps a good workout from doing the bench and other movements as well as the tricep pulldown. Oh and the diet when I was on the beast was also the same type of diet im doing now . It could have also just been one of those days where your strength is down for no apparent reason , so we will definitely see how we do on chest day next week and ill do the same routine so I will definitely know , 2 weeks might not be enough to be expecting strength gains esp on this type of diet , but 3 weeks should tell me a thing or two about where im at strength wise.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful 4th of July!!!
 
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I do believe that I am seeing results from the T3 finally! Mid section is starting to look better, kind of just melting down.
 
Ah thats wonderful to hear Zed! Right now at this stage the results for me arent coming as good as they were that first week

Day 16

45 mins of cardio

75 mcg T3

100 mg test prop ( same thing happened as last time I had to poke 4 times before I finally felt I hit a safe spot , Im starting to think I keep getting blood when I aspirate because iv only been using my thighs for injection but im not sure on this , maybe I just have bad luck hitting the wrong spots on the leg)

160 mcg clen ( im not as shaky on the clen! I think its because iv been on such a high dose for to long that its effects are gone , even though iv been adding benadryl maybe its just not enough to combat how much im taking , sunday will be my last day taking it for 2 weeks )

75 mg benadryl

2 mg oral tren split into two 1 mg doses

600 mg milk thistle

Today was a bi and back workout , I felt really good I started noticing myself getting vascular again like I was a few months ago , no special pumps ( I blame this on lack of carbs ) when I first got there and I was warming up my back I was like ughgh I dont feel like my muscles have the stamina or want to do this , but after I got into my working sets I was good to go and definitely well focused!

Lately iv been really ocd about how I look in the mirror since the results aren't coming as fast , I also dont feel im to active since im temporarily not working , so I pretty much stay home all day except for going to the gym and doing cardio and going out in the sun , other then that Im busy on the computer or watching the baby. So I almost feel I really need to go swimming outside alot more since cardio bores the hell out of me enough in the early 45 min session .

Maybe im just expecting results to fast, and im sure the leaner I get the more time its going to take to see improvements. My diet is still right on track with exactly 2095 calories keto style , was thinking about switching this up though for some reason , I feel If I have carbs it will help my strength and possibly gain muscle , I do beleive it is impossible to gain muscle without having carbs ? So maybe if I add in some carbs I can still cut down but also gain some lean mass and possibly better strength , ill see where my strength is as next week and decide what I want to do. I'm also sure that if I just stuck with the keto style that it would result in more total fat loss , how much more ? I don't exactly know but im sure its a good amount more then with carbs .
 
Thanks bro.
Lookin good there!
 
Day 17

45 mins of cardio

75 mcg T3

160 mcg clen

100 mg test prop ( nice and smooth injection )

75 mg benadryl @ night ( I had a wonderful sleep last night , and woke up with a good mood this morning )

2 mg oral tren split into two 1mg doses

600 mg milk thistle.

Rest day today , going to go out and swimm and try to burn some calories and get a better tan. Not a whole lot else to report on , hope everyone has a wonderful day .
 
Good for you bro another good injection!:D
 
sebaco2011 said:
Day 11



My apetite is still doing good , Im not super hungry all the time but when im put around foods that look very delicious it does sound amazing to just pig out on it . I am still eating about 2000-2100 calories a day all keto style , so high fat and protein , some people reccomend carbing up for those who are working out , and their are diets like that such as the anabolic diet , ckd , bodyopus diet, etc. It would be nice to have a carb up day but then again I talked to a friend at the gym whos a bodybuilding competitor ( not natural , thats for sure LOL) and he said it wouldn't really be needed , it could be used to help a bit with energy levels and possibly help strength and preserve muscle some . But since im on this cycle that the muscle preservation shouldn't be much of a issue , and if I just stick to this it would help remove the fat faster then having to carb up every week or 2 and then have to wait a 2-3 days to get into keto . So im just going to be sticking with this and so far its working excellent , cant imagine how well my bodys going to do once the real Tren starts kicking in .
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For what it's worth...I'd seriously consider a "carb up" or a refeed. Even a refeed meal vs a refeed day. I'd structure it and keep it clean. If you do a full refeed day, I'd lower your protein a bit and keep your fat levels to a minimum, outside of what you get in your regular food.

Not only does it give you that extra energy and refill your muscles with glycogen, it'll keep your leptin levels moving, which will help you with the fat loss and goes a long way in stalling out. If you're sitting about 18% bf, I'd consider a refeed day every 10-14 days, depending on how heavy you're training.

Just a few additional thoughts for you on diet. Good job on the log! :)
 
Nice ^^^ !
Thanks for posting sista!
 
Thanks Kirsten I appreciate it , yes starting on Monday im going to be introducing carbs into my diet , excited to change things up a bit , the Tren E should be kicking in soon as well.
 
Day 18

45 mins of cardio

75mcg T3

100 mg test prop

200 mg tren E ( aspirated blood came through so had to choose a different spot then it went in smooth )

160 mcg clen

75 mg benadryl @ night

600 mg milk thistle

2mg oral tren , split into two 1mg doses .

Todays workout was shoulders & abs , it went really well , was really focused and strength was good .
 
You know bro that is the one thing that I have not had happen to me yet is to aspirate blood. Been shooting every weekd for about 2 years now...
 
Yeah it seems like its starting to get more common , even my first cycle of just test E when I was a noob I only got blood one time when I aspirated , I use the charts on different websites that show where to inject but it just seems like it doesnt help much , hmmm... I would do the glutes but that stretch is sort of a pain to get it and I have always felt comfortable doing thighs.
 
Tell me how you inject bro.
 
I heat my vial up with a blowdryer for a good 3 minutes or so , fill my syringe with air inject into the vial , blow the air out . Withdraw the right amount , take pin out , squeeze the syringe so oil leaks down a bit and to get rid of air . Then I look at my thigh and I go about halfway from my groin to my knee and then I inject into the side, not the total side but not on the top of the thigh either . I just poke it through at a medium pace not fast not slow . Then I aspirate , if its gtg then I just take my time and inject and once its all done I pull the syringe out at a medium speed as well.

Day 19

45 mins of cardio

75 MCG T3

160 mcg clen

100 mg test prop ( nice and smooth no problems )

75 mg benadryl @ night

600 mg milk thistle

2 mg oral tren split into two 1 mg doses

Okay so to start things off I had MASSIVE knee pain or some kind of pain just barely above the kneecap muscle . It hurt super bad during the night when I would do the nightly piss /and get water routine. Then I woke up and was like no way in hell im doing cardio , then I did it anyways and it went away a bit . Then I iced it and took some advil for it after I was done, I'm not sure if this is because yesterday I switched up my morning cardio and did a 9 % incline instead of a 1-3% incline , thats the only thing I can think of?

Today was legs so I went SUPER light on it , for some reason it was only the right leg , and like I said it wasn't exactly the thigh muscle it was like a muscle that is just barely above the knee cap and also feels like its coming from the side of the kneecap. Also did some of the olyptical at the gym some HIIT during leg training ( since this seemed better then to try and do hiit on treadmill !) and also warmed up on the stationary bike for about 5 mins.

Going to be icing this baby for a while , and maybe get a blow dryer and put some heat on it before I go to bed, also going to be purchasing some joint relief vitamins most likely if the pain doesnt go away soon.

I have also noticed my sex drive is pretty low lol , im not exactly thinking about it as much as I usually do , im also starting to be curious of my Test P and Tren E is legit hmmm , its optimum pharma so not sure if anyone has any feedback about them .
 
sebaco2011 said:
I heat my vial up with a blowdryer for a good 3 minutes or so , fill my syringe with air inject into the vial , blow the air out . Withdraw the right amount , take pin out , squeeze the syringe so oil leaks down a bit and to get rid of air . Then I look at my thigh and I go about halfway from my groin to my knee and then I inject into the side, not the total side but not on the top of the thigh either . I just poke it through at a medium pace not fast not slow . Then I aspirate , if its gtg then I just take my time and inject and once its all done I pull the syringe out at a medium speed as well.
Ok this all looks good bro. However you can inject pretty much anyplace on your thigh. Also to include that tear drop shape muscle on the inside and above your knee joint. Thats what I love about thigh shots, lots of space for a new place each time.
You can also do the outer portion of your calves and your delts. Both are easy to hit.
Day 19

45 mins of cardio

75 MCG T3

160 mcg clen

100 mg test prop ( nice and smooth no problems ) Good!!:D

75 mg benadryl @ night

600 mg milk thistle

2 mg oral tren split into two 1 mg doses

Okay so to start things off I had MASSIVE knee pain or some kind of pain just barely above the kneecap muscle . It hurt super bad during the night when I would do the nightly piss /and get water routine. Then I woke up and was like no way in hell im doing cardio , then I did it anyways and it went away a bit . Then I iced it and took some advil for it after I was done, I'm not sure if this is because yesterday I switched up my morning cardio and did a 9 % incline instead of a 1-3% incline , thats the only thing I can think of?
To me it sounds like you are talking about your pataller tendon. You may have some inflamation going on there bro. Continue with ice, but I would not use heat for that. Also go back to the incline that you were using for awhile. Then if you wanna increase it do it gradually. The bike is great as therapy for knees, in general.

Today was legs so I went SUPER light on it , for some reason it was only the right leg , and like I said it wasn't exactly the thigh muscle it was like a muscle that is just barely above the knee cap and also feels like its coming from the side of the kneecap. Also did some of the olyptical at the gym some HIIT during leg training ( since this seemed better then to try and do hiit on treadmill !) and also warmed up on the stationary bike for about 5 mins.

Going to be icing this baby for a while , and maybe get a blow dryer and put some heat on it before I go to bed, also going to be purchasing some joint relief vitamins most likely if the pain doesnt go away soon.
Warm your knees up slowly bro and do plenty of it. If that issues continues I would leave off the leg training for a couple weeks then try it again and see what you get.

I have also noticed my sex drive is pretty low lol , im not exactly thinking about it as much as I usually do , im also starting to be curious of my Test P and Tren E is legit hmmm , its optimum pharma so not sure if anyone has any feedback about them .
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If you have Dostinex use it. The low sex drive may be coming from the Tren bro.
Also you may wanna pm RADAR or N2 and ask them their opine on that.

Good luck bro, nice job here on your log.:D
 
Thanks for all the info Zed , definitely going to try injecting into into the teardrop region , its easier to see the veins in the spot as well . Yeah I always warm up my legs on the bike that day I speficially warmed them up more than anything but the next day is when the pain started happening but like I said its most likely because I went to such a high incline .

I switched up my cardio also , for a few days I was working my heart rate @ about 140 ish bpm , so I lowered it back down to about 120 -130 ish . Only burning about 210 calories in the morning but I feel its better for my legs. I might have to throw in two sessions of this not sure yet.

Day 20

45 mins cardio

75 mcg T3

100 mg test prop

2 mg oral tren , split into seperate doses.

decided to bump up clen today and tomorrow as well , im up to 200 mcg ( I'm almost 100% positive its useless though , I think my beta receptors are all fried , even though I was taking 75 mg benadryl @ night I dont think that it could keep up with 3 weeks @ 160 mcg clen everyday) tomorrow is going to be my last day on clen., for at least 2 weeks possibly 3 .

75 mg benadryl @ night still just to attempt to help my receptors , as well as this stuff makes ya sleep good :)

600 mg milk thistle

Today was just a rest day so all I did was the cardio , and dont plan on doing much at all today . I had the thought of taking some Nolva maybe 20 mg everyday just to help get rid of some estrogen , I think it might help get rid of some of the fat a little better , not sure though . Almost seems as if iv hit a plateau but starting Monday it should break.
 
Whats up bro! Just finished reading what you got so far. Besides the knee it looks like things are going pretty good. I broke my leg almost a year ago on a sportbike and my knee bugs me from time to time. I really hate when I hurt myself when things are going good. It kills my motivation! Anyway take it easy on the knee and keep killin it bro.

:evil:
 
Thanks Johnny haha sportbike eh ? I have one myself Yamaha r6 love sportsbikes!!!! the bmw s1000r is my dream bike atm :P
 
yeah bro! R6 is a fun bike. I went down on a ZX10 the bike went off the side of a mountain :evil: I went down and test rode the zx14 I think that will be my next sportbike haha I guess I ll never learn. I remember the nurse at the hospital asking me "so do you think you will ride again?" this was while she was giving me a blood transfusion. LOL I looked her dead in the eyes and said as soon I can walk......:biggrin: The ol lady wants me to stick to the harley's but sportbikes are just to much fun......
 
Used to be the pilot of a ZZR1200. Shitload of fun. But then I got old and wise.......LOL
 
Zx 10 nice those are really good bikes from all the reviews iv read about it , seems to be the 2nd best 1000 cc bike just falling behind the Bmw, hmm Zx14 thats to big for me xD.

day 21


45 mins of cardio
Rest day today
100 mg test prop
2 mg oral tren , split doses.
160 mcg clen today was my last day of it , as it is now useless and I need to take a break.
75 mg benadryl@ night
600 mg milk thistle
75 mcg T3
Well today was just a rest day nothing big to report about hope everyone has a wonderful day ! Oh tomorrow im going to introduce some carbs and help break the plateau a little bit.
 
Day 22

45 mins cardio

100 mg test prop

200 mg tren E

2 mg oral tren

75 mcg T3

Just wanted everyone to know that this is my last day logging on this site for this journal , this is due to the fact im taking a substance that is not supposed to be talked about on here , and if I do talk about it I will get banned. If you would like to continue following my log or find out what the extra fat loss drug is you can look for my log at juicedmuscle.com or theironden.com both of those forums im still on the user name Sebaco2011 . I will still be a junkie over here though just dont feel like making another different log that wouldn't be as informed as the 2 other logs on the sites I mentioned above. Hope everyone still follows my progress ! ! ! :)
 
Gonna miss you on here bro.
But you made a good choice in following the rules.
If you wanna you could just cut and paste, and then just blank out the product x part bro.
Regards
Zed
 
zedhed said:
Gonna miss you on here bro.
But you made a good choice in following the rules.
If you wanna you could just cut and paste, and then just blank out the product x part bro.
Regards
Zed
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Yeah bro bummer! I'm with Zed just blank it out! well good luck with the rest of your cycle.....
 
great log brother, to bad i didn't get here before, which you the best, hope to see another log soon, take care.
 
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