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Interested In Joining Airforce.

makaveli25

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I'm very health In good shape. I'm 26 years old with a bachelors degree. I'm Interested In maybe going to the airforce. Problem Is I was treated by a doctor for opiate dependency. I was on suboxone for awhile. I've been off of It for awhile and I'm doing good. I think I was be disqualified for this. Any know?
 
I'm very health In good shape. I'm 26 years old with a bachelors degree. I'm Interested In maybe going to the airforce. Problem Is I was treated by a doctor for opiate dependency. I was on suboxone for awhile. I've been off of It for awhile and I'm doing good. I think I was be disqualified for this. Any know?

Was it a prescription drug use dependency, or did it stem from recreational use?
 
recreational use unfortunately

I don't think the AF is a possibility. They used to over look occasional use of weed but any "hard" drug was instant disqualification.

You can call a recruiter to verify this.

Btw, the AF is the most selective, perhaps another branch would consider you.
 
All applicants are carefully screened concerning drug and alcohol involvement. As a minimum, you can expect the recruiter to ask:


a. "Have you ever used drugs?"

b. "Have you been charged with or convicted of a drug or drug related offense?"

c. "Have you ever been psychologically or physically dependent upon any drug or alcohol?"

d. "Have you ever trafficked, sold, or traded in illegal drugs for profit?"

If the answer to the last two questions is "yes," then you can expect to be ineligible for enlistment. If the answer to the first two questions is yes, then you can expect to have to complete a drug abuse screening form, detailing the specific circumstances of your drug usage. The military service will then make a determination as to whether or not your previous drug usage is a bar to service in that particular branch of the military. In most cases, a person who experimented with "non-hard" drugs in the past will be allowed to enlist. Anything more than experimentation may very well be a bar to enlistment. An "experimenter" is defined as:


.."one who has illegally, wrongfully, or improperly used any narcotic substance, marijuana, or dangerous drug, for reasons of curiosity, peer pressure, or other similar reason. The exact number of times drugs were used, is not necessarily as important as determining the category of use and the impact of the drug use on the user's lifestyle, the intent of the user, the circumstances of use, and the psychological makeup of the user. An individual whose drug experimentation/use has resulted in some form of medical, psychiatric, or psychological treatment; a conviction or adverse juvenile adjudication; or loss of employment does not fall within the limits of this category. For administrative purposes, determination of the category should be within the judgment of either the district or recruiting station commanding officer, aided by medical, legal, and moral advice, with information as available from investigative sources."

While not a "hard and fast" rule, one can expect that any admitted use of marijuana over 15 or so times, or any admitted use of "hard drugs," will be disqualifying, and require a waiver.

In any case:


1. Dependency on illegal drugs is disqualifying.

2. Any history of drug use is potentially disqualifying.

3. Any history of dependency on alcohol is disqualifying.

Even if enlistment is authorized, many sensitive military jobs will be closed to individuals who have any past association with illegal drug or alcohol use.

In the Air Force, anyone who admits to smoking marijuana less than 15 times does not require a waiver. More than 15 times, but less than 25 requires a Drug Eligibility Determination (basically, a trained Drug & Alcohol Specialist will examine the exact circumstances of the use). An approved Drug Eligibility Determination is not the same thing as a "waiver," in that it will not preclude enlistment in most Air Force Jobs. 25 or more uses of Marijuana in a lifetime is disqualifying, and requires a waiver.

As a minimum, recruits will undergo a urinalysis test, when at the Military Entrance Processing Station, (MEPs) for their initial processing, and again when reporting for basic training.

U.S. Military Enlistment Standards, Part 2
 
I'm very health In good shape. I'm 26 years old with a bachelors degree. I'm Interested In maybe going to the airforce. Problem Is I was treated by a doctor for opiate dependency. I was on suboxone for awhile. I've been off of It for awhile and I'm doing good. I think I was be disqualified for this. Any know?

you can also say nothing. They will try to scare you shitless at MEPS and other places but honestly, when it comes to medical shit - no one gives a rat's ass after entlistment. I know cuz once ur in service, no one cares what you put down in those papers. Up 2 u. I've seen kids with criminal records get in, co's find out about it 5 years later and couldn't care less.

(hence why so many recruiters always tell you to ahem fudge as much as possible. They know no one cares once ur sworn in).

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you can also say nothing. They will try to scare you shitless at MEPS and other places but honestly, when it comes to medical shit - no one gives a rat's ass after entlistment. I know cuz once ur in service, no one cares what you put down in those papers. Up 2 u. I've seen kids with criminal records get in, co's find out about it 5 years later and couldn't care less.

(hence why so many recruiters always tell you to ahem fudge as much as possible. They know no one cares once ur sworn in).

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what if they run a background check on you while the app is pending?
 
you can also say nothing. They will try to scare you shitless at MEPS and other places but honestly, when it comes to medical shit - no one gives a rat's ass after entlistment. I know cuz once ur in service, no one cares what you put down in those papers. Up 2 u. I've seen kids with criminal records get in, co's find out about it 5 years later and couldn't care less.

(hence why so many recruiters always tell you to ahem fudge as much as possible. They know no one cares once ur sworn in).

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My buddy didn't get into the air force because he had slight asthma when he was like 5 years old. My aunt worked at the Pentagon, she said the Air Force tries to DQ people and they are stuck up as shit about who they enlist. Just sayin...They will kick you out for lying about shit...
 
My buddy didn't get into the air force because he had slight asthma when he was like 5 years old. My aunt worked at the Pentagon, she said the Air Force tries to DQ people and they are stuck up as shit about who they enlist. Just sayin...They will kick you out for lying about shit...

Begs the old quesiton, if you weren't going to get in anyways - at least you got to enjoy a few years and took a chance.

other poster: yes they do bg checks all the time. they don't trust you on criminal history lol. They do a millino checks beforehand nowadays.

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Begs the old quesiton, if you weren't going to get in anyways - at least you got to enjoy a few years and took a chance.

other poster: yes they do bg checks all the time. they don't trust you on criminal history lol. They do a millino checks beforehand nowadays.

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but they don't look at your medical history?
 
but they don't look at your medical history?

nope. When you're a 40 y/o sgt, no one's gonna care that you broke your leg at age 12 lol. The official word is always "never lie, we'll put you in jail later and fine you if you do!". The scare tactic usually works well and is effective enough on young 18 y/o's.

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you can also say nothing. They will try to scare you shitless at MEPS and other places but honestly, when it comes to medical shit - no one gives a rat's ass after entlistment. I know cuz once ur in service, no one cares what you put down in those papers. Up 2 u. I've seen kids with criminal records get in, co's find out about it 5 years later and couldn't care less.

(hence why so many recruiters always tell you to ahem fudge as much as possible. They know no one cares once ur sworn in).

c
"medical shit" and drug abuse are two different things. you mentioned that they don't care if you broke your leg when you were 12.. big difference between that being addicted to opiates.
 
"medical shit" and drug abuse are two different things. you mentioned that they don't care if you broke your leg when you were 12.. big difference between that being addicted to opiates.

they also don't trust you on drug usage and give u a badass drug test at meps. Also they will kick you out if you're caught with anything stronger than weed (and you're not an officer or can bribe one).

But yeah you're right.

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i looked hard at the army.
had a few scrapes on my background, nothing crazy, but i def woulda had to
lie about the drug use.
 
i looked hard at the army.
had a few scrapes on my background, nothing crazy, but i def woulda had to
lie about the drug use.

Nobody would have checked...they count on scaring youngsters into being honest. Convicted felons serve in the Army..
 
My younger brother is in the earlier stages of becoming a Navy seal. Seems like it is psychologically and physicalli demanding. I was a little worried for him after hearing about things he did and will have to do. But the last time he spoke he sounded pretty good.
 
My younger brother is in the earlier stages of becoming a Navy seal. Seems like it is psychologically and physicalli demanding. I was a little worried for him after hearing about things he did and will have to do. But the last time he spoke he sounded pretty good.

what are his abs like?
 
what are his abs like?

Doesn't have the same gentics as me. He is bigger, played middle linebacker and a little fullback in highschool. he has dropped 20-30lb's in the last few months there though.
 
I might in the future when my husband gets here we will discuss it, my brother definetely wants to join but we dont know the max age limit.....

- Joining the Military - Military.com

Non-prior service applicants must be in Basic Military Training before their 28th birthday. Officer Training School applicants must be commissioned prior to their 35th birthday. Physician, Nurse and Allied Health applicants must be in Commissioned Officer Training before their 40th birthday. Prior service applicant age limitations may differ from what is stated above. Prior service applicants should contact their local recruiter for age cut-offs.
 
- Joining the Military - Military.com

Non-prior service applicants must be in Basic Military Training before their 28th birthday. Officer Training School applicants must be commissioned prior to their 35th birthday. Physician, Nurse and Allied Health applicants must be in Commissioned Officer Training before their 40th birthday. Prior service applicant age limitations may differ from what is stated above. Prior service applicants should contact their local recruiter for age cut-offs.

Thanks :friends:
 
- Joining the Military - Military.com

Non-prior service applicants must be in Basic Military Training before their 28th birthday. Officer Training School applicants must be commissioned prior to their 35th birthday. Physician, Nurse and Allied Health applicants must be in Commissioned Officer Training before their 40th birthday. Prior service applicant age limitations may differ from what is stated above. Prior service applicants should contact their local recruiter for age cut-offs.

waviers and asteriks all over the age limit though.
i've heard of 38 yr olds enlisting
 
waviers and asteriks all over the age limit though.
i've heard of 38 yr olds enlisting

true ... there are exceptions, but the AF is the most selective:

Army - 42 (must ship to basic training prior to 42nd birthday)
Air Force - 27
Navy - 34
Marines - 28
Coast Guard - Age 27. Note: up to age 32 for those selected to attend A-school directly upon enlistment (this is mostly for prior service).
Reserve Non-Prior Service

Army Reserves - 42 (must ship to basic training prior to 42nd birthday)
Army National Guard - 35 (changed from 42 in 2009)
Air Force Reserve - 34
Air National Guard - 40 (Changed from 34 in Aug 2009)
Naval Reserves - 39
Marine Corps Reserve - 29
Coast Guard Reserves - Age 39

US Military Enlistment Standards -- Age Limits
 
true ... there are exceptions, but the AF is the most selective:

Army - 42 (must ship to basic training prior to 42nd birthday)
Air Force - 27
Navy - 34
Marines - 28
Coast Guard - Age 27. Note: up to age 32 for those selected to attend A-school directly upon enlistment (this is mostly for prior service).
Reserve Non-Prior Service

Army Reserves - 42 (must ship to basic training prior to 42nd birthday)
Army National Guard - 35 (changed from 42 in 2009)
Air Force Reserve - 34
Air National Guard - 40 (Changed from 34 in Aug 2009)
Naval Reserves - 39
Marine Corps Reserve - 29
Coast Guard Reserves - Age 39

US Military Enlistment Standards -- Age Limits

Think those Air force ages can get a waiver? or is it super strict.
i can't see a Army recruiter turning down someone who is 44 and super gung-ho. some how i think they would figure something out
lol?
 
Think those Air force ages can get a waiver? or is it super strict.
i can't see a Army recruiter turning down someone who is 44 and super gung-ho. some how i think they would figure something out
lol?

I think it's on a case by case basis.

Are you in career status with the Fed's (3 years service)?

If so being a Veteran would give you a distinct advangeous for promotions and being selected for other Federal positions.

And you can get some additional tech training in firefighting or surveying.
 
I think it's on a case by case basis.

Are you in career status with the Fed's (3 years service)?

If so being a Veteran would give you a distinct advangeous for promotions and being selected for other Federal positions.

And you can get some additional tech training in firefighting or surveying.

i think i hit my three years some time early next year.
i was a seasonal for a while and that doesn't apply to my 3 yrs.
Vets, got bless them, can walk into gov jobs and suck and still get the job.
last year a marine corpsman (he go the 5 points plus combat zone points)...couldn't pass our physical test which isn't that hard.
failed it three times and got the boot.
the marines cried in shame that night across the nation at such a pussy
 
Im interested in enrolling but am wating for my husband, have heard military has lots of job openings for neuropsychology specially since our poor troops are coming back not so good from Iraq :(
 
Im interested in enrolling but am wating for my husband, have heard military has lots of job openings for neuropsychology specially since our poor troops are coming back not so good from Iraq :(

have you heard about the warrior transition units? sounds like a noble cause, but I wouldn't come within 20 miles of working in one.
 
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