insulting or flattering?

[Deleted member 33117]

Hey Centrifuge, give us the routine you used to get to 240 all natural!!! damn...

On a more serious note than my last post, you may not like the answer to this one. I remember reading an article recently written by Ron Harris, in which he remembers chatting with Flex Wheeler when he first went pro, and was about 215, but had those superb 21" arms. Becuase Ron has competed as a heavyweight and has never gotten his over 18", despite his best efforts he asked Flex what he did for his arms. His reply,"Same shit you do."

Unfortunately not every has been delt the same hand, and there are alot of genetic freaks out there who need nothing more than a little hard work to make gains that most do not even have to capacity to accomplish. Centrifuge, if the stats he gave us are legit, clearly possesses a genetic predisposition for gaining muscle mass that most of us do not. Not to take anything away from his accomplisment, because he has probably busted his ass, but most can't achieve the same thing just by giving 100% in the gym. That's life.

 

[phatman42]

I consider it flattering. Basically they can't believe you are that big/strong without taking steroids,. cos they can't do it themselves.

It's sad really. They want to give themselves a reason for their failure,. They feel better saying to themselves "well of course he/she's better than me, they are on juice"

I couldn't care less really. If they want to think it then let them, i know i'm clean.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

BBF do you get a lot of water retention from those pentagon shaped pills?

LoL, I ment that as a joke, and it was a quote. I don't use them because, yes, they bloat me until I look like the pilsbury doughboy. D-bol and I do not get along.

 

[Gigantasor]

BBF do you get a lot of water retention from those pentagon shaped pills?

Centrifuge- "Well, part of it is my post workout nutrition. My girlfriend always drops these special, pink, pentagon shaped vitamins in my protien shake that she makes for me just before I head to the gym..."

 

[Debaser]

Hey Centrifuge, give us the routine you used to get to 240 all natural!!! damn...

I'm interested as well, but there is one caveat that BBf pretty much nailed himself:

1. If he's 240 naturally at 5'10" (and as lean as he is) then it probably doesn't matter. As long as he worked hard training and eating he has the genetics to gain on just about any regime.

If he got there by doing 20 sets to failure for each muscle group, does that mean you should do the same? That's where I'm going with this...

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I'm all natural @ 240 pounds. I'm 5'10 with about 10-12% body fat.

That is your reason right their... if this is true, you should be an IFBB pro after 1 cycle. I think we have a genetic freak on our hands.

 

[casualbb]

Even Bill O'Reilly, who's an intelligent, well-informed guy, once spout off some bullshit about "steroids and other narcotics" on his show.

lol... intelligent? probably. Well-informed...questionable

heh, sorry, couldn't let that one slip under the radar

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Re: Re: insulting or flattering?

That is your reason right their... if this is true, you should be an IFBB pro after 1 cycle. I think we have a genetic freak on our hands.

Agreed. He should do a heavy bulking cycle, then rip down and hit the NPC circuit. He'll be at a national qualifier in no time.

 

[c3ntrifug3]

I don't think I'm a genetic freak by any standards but thanks for the advice on what people say, guys.

It just gets frustrating when I work and work and work and force feed myself 350 grams of dry chicken and beef everyday and then have people start rumors about how I juice.

I have to say that the reason I am where I am today is because of you guys and your advice. I started reading this board about 2 years ago and it's really changed my lifting, diet and (not to sound hokey) my life.

Don't let the stats fool you, I'm not 240 solid muscle. I have a very heavy bone structure and am extremely broad. I've always trained in a 7-8 day split (taking 7-8 days to train entire body).

Right now I can bench 365 or so for a solid 3 reps and squat 415 for 6-8 reps. My deadlift is generally a lot lower than my squat but I don't really know how much because I often dead lift on back day (after doing all of my other exercises).

I generally use 5x5 routines with some westside methodology incorporated into my non 5x5 routine.

My form on squat, bench, deadlift and have the shit I know about lifting I have because of this board and because of you guys. I hate to admit it but two years about I was taking nitrotech, not working legs and doing 20 sets for biceps. No joke. When I started training right I just sort of blew up. Hopefully I'll be able to get some pics up when I get back to school so you all know I'm not bullshitting. Regardless, I seem to learn something new from you guys everyday so I'm not going anywhere

 

[c3ntrifug3]

I just realized that a lot of the time I say that too

I see a guy bigger than me or stronger and more cut than me and automatically write him off as a steroid user. I guess I'm not really any better, now that I think about it.