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Injection spot soreness

i always thought the shorter, smaller pin would reduce pain?

I can personally vouch for anyone who agrees that the thicker the needle, the less pain later, even if it's a little more pain when you stab. I've used up to 16g 1.5", and honestly the pain from the lump of oil goes away fast. I think it's because the oil ball is trapped in a small area when you force it in with a small needle, and with a big harpoon, it has a tunnel to seep into other layers of the muscle.

Charles
 
I can personally vouch for anyone who agrees that the thicker the needle, the less pain later, even if it's a little more pain when you stab. I've used up to 16g 1.5", and honestly the pain from the lump of oil goes away fast. I think it's because the oil ball is trapped in a small area when you force it in with a small needle, and with a big harpoon, it has a tunnel to seep into other layers of the muscle.

Charles

Holy shit 16g, damn bro. I got some 18g pins and they scare me. I like 23g myself. Got some 22g too
 
I can personally vouch for anyone who agrees that the thicker the needle, the less pain later, even if it's a little more pain when you stab. I've used up to 16g 1.5", and honestly the pain from the lump of oil goes away fast. I think it's because the oil ball is trapped in a small area when you force it in with a small needle, and with a big harpoon, it has a tunnel to seep into other layers of the muscle.

Charles

yes i learned this lesson the hard way when i tried primo for the first time. 100mg jammed into 1CC gives it an incredible molecular weight... so 25G it would take me a while to draw up the oil and then injecting would cause me horrible pain trying to squeeze thick oil through a skinny needle, when using 23G it was much better.

i always use 23G now. easier to draw and easier to inject.
 
I say its the gear. I use a 25ga 5/8" for delts and quads and a 23 1" for glutes. I'm running nothing but human grade gear right now and have no pain even doing 3cc in my delts. Higher concentration gear can lead to painful injects.
 
yeah but dont you get pain from a longer, thicker pin?? or is it just the oil

dude not sure why you continue to argue. i've done hundreds of pins, i've learned the best ways to do it.

just take my word for it. always use a standard 23G 1 incher. that is the best one to use. if you are a big boy in the fat department and like to hit the glutes you could even consider 1 1/2
 
I use a 23' to inject. I never use more than 1cc per inject spot. W/ propianate u get pain sometimes regardless. Sometimes I get a lump from everyday injects but since I rotate it goes away by the 6th day when I get there again.

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