Info for first cycle.....

[mohit261109]

Hey guys,
Im considering Test E for my first cyle but in the back of my head im also thinking of Winny at the end of the cycle.Im aiming for a Bulk cycle but want lean gains with minimum fat.I know diet will decide whether a cycle would be bulk or cut but using winny at end of the cycle for around 5 weeks will provide any noticeable difference like increase in hardness and vascularity ??? or is it stupid to consider winny for your first cycle? Just want some opinions!!!
cycle would be like..
test e- 10 weeks-400 mg- 200 mg*2-mon and thursday
proviron- 2 to 10 week- 50 mg daily-split in am & pm (in doubt whether to include it or not for SHBG binding puspose and more free test.)
winny- 8 to 12 week-50 mg daily(Asking all of you guys whether to consider it)
arimidex-.25 mg eod for whole cycle.(whether to use it from the start or take it when some water retention noticed as im already taking proviron it would help in estrogen dept.)
HCG- 5 to 12 week 500 iu/week split into two dosages.(250 iu mon & 250 iu thursday.Confused whether to blast it after the cycle and before PCT or not.)
Liv 52 and milk thistle for the whole cycle.
Multi-Animal pak
PCT
WEEK 13
CLOMID-25/25/25/25 for four weeks
DAA POWDER
PURE TRIBULUS(or 1 is enough as test booster in daa and tribulus)
Whether to add aromasin or arimidex in my PCT ???
And guys im from INDIA and i cant get any NTBM supp. over here or for the fact of matter couldnt even order from bb.com as everything got stuck in customs and u will never get it.So cant consider things like HCgenerate, forma etc.
I know without HCgenerate, forma it wouldnt be perfect. so guys tell what are the changes you suggest or to add anything in my pct.
Weight- 184 lbs
height- 175 cm
body fat- 14-15 %
training period- 3 years.
clean diet with lots of veggies and lean meat.
thanks.

 

[EZ_E]

Test only

~EZ

 

[mohit261109]

@isteroids- its not about delivery,its about Indian Customs everything related to supplements & bodybuilding get stuck in customs and it would always goes to the source never reached me, in the past i ve ordered pre workout,xtend,whey protein from bb.com but it never reaches it was send back to bb.com and the n refund process so i dont want to get into this all over again.

 

[mohit261109]

@all- sorry guys i forgot 'MY AGE IS 24'.

 

[mohit261109]

Bump.
any suggestion guys waiting for it.

 

[mohit261109]

bump...... anyone guys some insights.

 

[joeblow12345]

Id stick with just test for a first cycle. The proviron is the only thing id add. Save the winny for next time.

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[mohit261109]

@joeblow- what about PCT as i cannt get NTBM supp. in India.Is my PCT good or you would like to add in some thing.PCT is my main worry, i'll drop winny from the cycle and HCG protocol any good???

 

[joeblow12345]

@joeblow- what about PCT as i cannt get NTBM supp. in India.Is my PCT good or you would like to add in some thing.PCT is my main worry, i'll drop winny from the cycle and HCG protocol any good???

I usually run hcgen during cycle and do a hcg blast before pct. If hcg is all you can get then run it from week 8-12. The clomid dose is good. Id also run the proviron from 6-12 since you cant get unleashed. Stop the test at week 10. If all you can get is trib and daa then Id use that. You may try to pm needto and ask if its possible to get it delivered to india. As far as I know they ship everywhere. There has to be a way.

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[mohit261109]

@joeblow thanks for the reply man and i ll will order post cycle & hcgenerate lets see if it reaches me.The problem is not NTBM delivery but fucking indian customs who has a strong policy against bodybuilding supplements.
1.One more thing should i use ADEX from start or only start when there is water retention & dose will be .25 mg eod.
2.Test 400 mg/week is good for first cycle ????
3.Can i also add adex or aromasin for PCT to make it a little better.
4.8-12 weeks should i take HCG 500 iu/week split in two mon/thur.
dont mind me asking so much questions im nervous bout my first cycle and want it to be perfect.THANKS.

 

[joeblow12345]

@joeblow thanks for the reply man and i ll will order post cycle & hcgenerate lets see if it reaches me.The problem is not NTBM delivery but fucking indian customs who has a strong policy against bodybuilding supplements.
1.One more thing should i use ADEX from start or only start when there is water retention & dose will be .25 mg eod.
2.Test 400 mg/week is good for first cycle ????
3.Can i also add adex or aromasin for PCT to make it a little better.
4.8-12 weeks should i take HCG 500 iu/week split in two mon/thur.
dont mind me asking so much questions im nervous bout my first cycle and want it to be perfect.THANKS.

1. Use it as needed. If you feel nips getting sore or water retention then use it. Adjust dose accordingly 0.5 mg adex e3d is a good start.
2. Yes I used 250 mg test my first cycle and gained over 20 lbs.
3. If you get forma use that if not use adex or aromasin in pct if needed.
4 yes 250 ius twice a week.
Im glad your getting advice instead of jumping in blind.

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[mohit261109]

Joeblow thanks for replying again.
1.Lets say if i couldnt get forma than which will be the better option between AROMASIN or ARIMIDEX for PCT.
2.What should be the dosage of AROMASIN or ARIMIDEX for PCT.
3.I ve heard of rebound if you use arimidex in your PCT can you shed some light on this topic and how to prevent it.THANKS

 

[mohit261109]

bump...

 

[joeblow12345]

Joeblow thanks for replying again.
1.Lets say if i couldnt get forma than which will be the better option between AROMASIN or ARIMIDEX for PCT.
2.What should be the dosage of AROMASIN or ARIMIDEX for PCT.
3.I ve heard of rebound if you use arimidex in your PCT can you shed some light on this topic and how to prevent it.THANKS

I highly suggest forma but if you cant get it then adex or aromasin at a low dose if needed. I personally always use adex as its very effective for me. For dose 0.5 mg e3d or a week depending on your needs. I believe the rebound is a result in a failed pct and has nothing to do with the adex, forma, or aromasin.

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[mohit261109]

BUMP.
Any more suggestions.