Inconsistent Libido on Cycle

[nb01741]

Stats
23 y.o
5'10"
190
bf 13%
This is my second cycle

I'm 6 weeks into a Test Prop/ Anavar cycle and my libido has been pretty shot the past few days. The first 5 1/2 weeks it was through the roof. I brought a girl home 2 nights ago and couldn't get hard to save my life. It was as limp as it gets. This has literally never happened to me in my entire life, and to tell you the truth it was embarrassing as shit and frustrating. We passed out for like an hour and woke up in the middle of the night and I got hard in 2 seconds and had sex with her.

I see these threads all the time and it's usually high estrogen... but I've been taking Aromasin 12.5mg EOD since the beginning of the cycle. I'm gyno prone and haven't had any itchy nips or any signs of high E what so ever. Maybe i'm killing my estrogen?? Anyways... Thanks for any help this has got me kind of worried.

 

[Nelson Montana]

If you're gyno prone there can be unstable levels of e and that will also cause libido issues.

 

[nb01741]

If you're gyno prone there can be unstable levels of e and that will also cause libido issues.

Do you mean unstable as in fluctuating too much? Or too low? I honestly feel like I have kept my estrogen in check this entire cycle...

What are the chances that it is something other than estrogen causing this problem?

 

[stevesmi]

you are running very powerful hormones and for some people that can make things go crazy..

also you are 23 now.. you aren't 17 anymore. as you get older your body will change...

my advice is lead a healthy lifestyle.. stay the hell away from the alcohol (you said you brought a girl home which tells me you met some chick at the bar right?)... if you go to bars to get girls than don't drink alcohol, that will definately effect things... this is common sense things that have nothing to do with AAS you should know by now at your age.

also stop obsessing over it.. the more you obsess i guarantee the bigger the problem will get so cut it out now.

and lastly you need to be on hcgenerate, that will not only help your issue but it will ensure a softer recovery.. you think things suck now just wait till you crash after cycle because you failed to cover all bases and run a good pct

 

[notjake11]

Steve is right (as usual). But I'd also get on N2Guard too. You need to protect your organs and keep your blood pressure in line. People think that Var is mild, but it still strains your body and will fuck up both your liver and blood pressure over time (and high bloood pressure can fuck up your drive/libido/erections). N2Guard helps keep that under control. Given that you've gone six weeks without it, I'd do 10 caps a day instead of the normal 7 - run it 5 am and 5 pm with meals for the remainder of the cycle and a couple weeks afterwards to help your body recover.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yes it could very well be high bp causing circulation issues which will effect that as well. n2guard is a must on any cycle especially if you are stacking

 

[joeblow12345]

Along with what everyone else said I suggest using unleashed on cycle with the hcgenerate. I cycle it with proviron on cycle to lower shbg and raise free test. I'm 26 and have done a lot harsher cycles then this and I can get hard on command.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.

 

[nb01741]

Steve- I'm not obsessing over it the least bit... I said I'm kind of worried about it, and I made a thread because I want to figure out what I can do/take to fix it. Right now I am assuming it is high bp so I will check and keep a close eye on it. And I get what you are saying about getting HCGenerate but I disagree that I'm not covering all bases of the cycle. I know you know your shit but I honestly can't tell the difference between solid advice and promotions on this forum. Nothing against you or anyone else for that matter but I'm taking 500iu hcg a week and I just think it would be crazy to say that everyone who doesn't use HCGenerate (95% of steroid users) isn't covering all bases of their cycles...

That being said I will probably start n2guard as soon as I can because I know it's a great product and it's not a waste of money.

 

[notjake11]

I paid every penny for each of the products I used in my cycle and both HCGenerate and N2Guard were essential components. I'm not a rep here and don't have a code so referring you to the products does me no good - I still say you're not covering the bases using them. I forget who it was, but one of the guys here was having problems with being suppressed and his nuts starting to shrink. A couple days after taking HCGenerate on advice of someone on board and his nuts went from raisins back to grapes. I ran Var/Prov are relatively high doses for 8 weeks and never had a single issue with shrinkage or not being able to stay hard - quite the contrary. Full loads and full steam ahead.

 

[dylangemelli]

if your running hcg then there is a different problem unless your hcg is bad... just because your running any of those does not ensure you will not have any problems either... they will alleviate them or suppress the problem from being worse but you are running strong shit bro and this is always a possibility... unleashed would be a good option to add but you should be monitoring your bp throughout and taking good care of that... it could have just been a one time thing too bro... you were fine later in the night... don't let your mind play tricks on you... also, if your that worried about it then hit up some cialis... =)

 

[stevesmi]

keep in mind hcg could increase your estrogen. but i don't think thats your problem in this instance because high estrogen is better than low estrogen when it comes to libido.. but that is another debate

i never said you weren't covering all bases though, i give advice on here not just for you but other guys who read this .. if you look there are hundreds of guys (mostly non members) who read the forums and experience these problems, so i want to make sure IN CASE they read this too that i don't give X answer specific..

you should not resort to cialis at your age at all.. all i can tell you is its NORMAL to have inconsistent issues down there with or without AAS as you get older, why do you think there are all these commercials.. however with the right blend of lifestyle choices and supplements you can have zero issues in that department...

so again lose the alcohol when you go out.. even a little wine is a no-no... get plenty of rest.. stay in good shape/good bp and keep a positive attitude and you should be fine. http://www.impotence-guide.com/alcohol-impotence.html <<< read this, not endorsing the site or entire article but it explains why alcohol fucks you up down there

if you are gonna cycle on and off you need to get bloods and make sure you are okay.. otherwise this problem could become chronic as you age.

PS. you can order samples of the products from NTBM... take your blood pressure for a few days a few times during the day.. write it down... run the n2guard for a few days and on the last 2 days do the same thing testing your bp.. you will notice a difference, also you will feel better.. less stress on your lipids

same with hcgenerate.. let your balls turn to raisins.. then run hcgenerate 3 caps 2X per day.. after a few days your balls will plump up.. the products WORK man.

 

[digit0x]

IDK dude, are you consistent with your doses? Prop can enter and leave system relatively quickly, so if you aren't careful about timing and dose ==> inconsistent bloods.

 

[nb01741]

Thanks for all the replies you guys... solid advice

Dylan- I don't think my hcg is fake... I got it from the same place you do... And there is no chance in hell I would ever run Cialis especially at my age. I don't believe this as a permanent problem at all.. more like a one time thing. (Although that was the only time I couldn't get hard, I still haven't had much sex drive this past week... but if I try, I can get hard)

Steve- Lots of good advice... I don't think it is high estrogen either... I'm pretty sure it's bp or maybe even low estrogen. I will order n2guard because I need it and I know it works, and I'll order some samples of HCGenerate.

Digit0x- Yea I'm pinning the Prop ED.

 

[stevesmi]

if you think its your BP i would lay off the juice for 1 week.. let your levels come down, let your body feel better.. then you can start up again at a lower dose

the whole 'taking a girl home' also could be you aren't getting enough sleep at night.. maybe less girls going home with you and more ZZZZZ's... i would aim for atleast 8 hours

lack of sleep has a domino effect.. when i dated a bartender i would lose a lot of sleep cause our schedules were polar opposites, it really affected me in a lot of ways.

 

[nb01741]

if you think its your BP i would lay off the juice for 1 week.. let your levels come down, let your body feel better.. then you can start up again at a lower dose

the whole 'taking a girl home' also could be you aren't getting enough sleep at night.. maybe less girls going home with you and more ZZZZZ's... i would aim for atleast 8 hours

lack of sleep has a domino effect.. when i dated a bartender i would lose a lot of sleep cause our schedules were polar opposites, it really affected me in a lot of ways.

Hmm lay off of everything for a week? Even the Var? I haven't seen a lot of people do that... and honestly I didn't really even consider that an option... but maybe you are right. I will think about it.. but it makes sense to me if I was running Test E but is that a good idea with Prop? You know better than me so I will look into it.

As far as taking the girl home that's not an every weekend kind of thing... I just got out of a 3 year relationship and it's been a stressful past 2 weeks to say the least. I needed to get out and enjoy myself for a night and I did... Sleeping with this girl took a lot of stress off of me and is really helping me get over my ex. She hooked up with one of my friends the 2nd night after we broke up and it's been a pretty depressing time. But I am doing a lot better now and I'm glad my focus is 100% back to lifting and this cycle. I'm not looking for advice on the situation or turning this into a therapy session lol I'm just trying to give you guys the situation I've been in and maybe you can help me. Laying off the juice for a week may be a great option, but then again idk.

Thanks for everyone input so far

 

[nb01741]

And with that being said maybe me not being able to hard is because it wasn't my ex girlfriend. We had sex multiple times a day and this was my first time sleeping with someone else besides her. But at the same time my libido hasn't been raging for a while so I know it wasn't just a fluke. Like I said I can still get hard but I'm certainly not a walking boner like I was the first 5 1/2 weeks.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ she is a slut bro and you are better off without her. you are only 23 and you experiences your first heart break.. that is healthy and that is good.. i have had my heart broken many times and broken hearts as well.. going through that is important, rather than marrying the first girl to give you a handjob.. you will know exactly what I am talking about in 10 years when you are single and much more wiser and happier.

now that you said that i hope you realize libido is 99% psychological. I have seen guys with T levels at 93 who were horny and i have seen guys with T levels at 1500+ who were not.

and yes if your body is under stress you can always lay off everything for a week and let your body catch up then continue again. sticking to a schedule is much more wreckless than listening to your body, a lot of newbs have a map of their cycle.. this is wrong.. you should have a plan, but if something happens during cycle you have to be willing to adjust that plan accordingly whether its adjusting doses, ancillaries, stopping, pausing, or whatever it may be.

 

[Ifonly]

^^^ she is a slut bro and you are better off without her. you are only 23 and you experiences your first heart break.. that is healthy and that is good.. i have had my heart broken many times and broken hearts as well.. going through that is important, rather than marrying the first girl to give you a handjob.. you will know exactly what I am talking about in 10 years when you are single and much more wiser and happier.

now that you said that i hope you realize libido is 99% psychological. I have seen guys with T levels at 93 who were horny and i have seen guys with T levels at 1500+ who were not.

and yes if your body is under stress you can always lay off everything for a week and let your body catch up then continue again. sticking to a schedule is much more wreckless than listening to your body, a lot of newbs have a map of their cycle.. this is wrong.. you should have a plan, but if something happens during cycle you have to be willing to adjust that plan accordingly whether its adjusting doses, ancillaries, stopping, pausing, or whatever it may be.

I hear wat Steve says when libido is 99% psychological!
I'm 26 now and my libido is sky fuckin high. Even on letro!! It's fickin insane when on test!! Can be annoying really! But hey, fuck it.
Everyone's different!!

 

[nb01741]

^^^ she is a slut bro and you are better off without her. you are only 23 and you experiences your first heart break.. that is healthy and that is good.. i have had my heart broken many times and broken hearts as well.. going through that is important, rather than marrying the first girl to give you a handjob.. you will know exactly what I am talking about in 10 years when you are single and much more wiser and happier.

now that you said that i hope you realize libido is 99% psychological. I have seen guys with T levels at 93 who were horny and i have seen guys with T levels at 1500+ who were not.

and yes if your body is under stress you can always lay off everything for a week and let your body catch up then continue again. sticking to a schedule is much more wreckless than listening to your body, a lot of newbs have a map of their cycle.. this is wrong.. you should have a plan, but if something happens during cycle you have to be willing to adjust that plan accordingly whether its adjusting doses, ancillaries, stopping, pausing, or whatever it may be.

Yes... she is indeed a slut lol. I'm feeling much better though I will admit it was a rough 2 weeks and I thought it was the end of the world but I'm doin just fine now. I'm going to go ahead and contribute this to psychological because given the situation and this being the first girl I've slept with since my ex... it makes a lot of sense.

I am thinking about taking my Aromasin e3d for a week or so and see how it goes... I have a feeling that my estrogen is low and I'm going to get bloods done at the end of the week to see where I'm at.

Also the past 4 or 5 days I have been extremely lethargic... That is not like me at all and I'm not sure if that could be psychological too but most likely high bp?

 

[stevesmi]

yeah the stress and the roids is probably giving you high bp. which is why i said to pause things.

 

[Aplopez8]

Bro I know how u feel .. I call it relationship dik .when ur use to smashing the same girl so when u come across a new beaver u have A harder time getting up .. It sucks but drinking helps me with that problem .though u defenitly shouldn't drink on cycle

 

[nb01741]

Alright everyone thanks for all the help especially Steve. I'm going to think about taking a week off, or lowering my dosages for a little bit. I only have like 2 weeks left of my cycle so I'm going to start n2guard and monitor my bp, etc.

 

[nb01741]

Thought I would go ahead and revive this thread instead of making another one so that everyone knows my situation.....

I don't know why I didn't mention it in the thread earlier... but I have had some BAD acne on my chest.. and it started around the same time (2 weeks ago) that all my other problems started. I have big zits all over my chest and shoulders... it's not like holy shit bad but it's pretty gross.

Could their be a link with me getting acne and loss of libido at the same time? I realize that it's got to be unstable hormone levels but what is it?? My estrogen is too low? I haven't taken the Aromasin in 4 days and my lethargy is pretty much gone. I'm feeling better but this acne on my chest just keeps coming, and still no libido.

 

[JoeBlob]

Thought I would go ahead and revive this thread instead of making another one so that everyone knows my situation.....

I don't know why I didn't mention it in the thread earlier... but I have had some BAD acne on my chest.. and it started around the same time (2 weeks ago) that all my other problems started. I have big zits all over my chest and shoulders... it's not like holy shit bad but it's pretty gross.

Could their be a link with me getting acne and loss of libido at the same time? I realize that it's got to be unstable hormone levels but what is it?? My estrogen is too low? I haven't taken the Aromasin in 4 days and my lethargy is pretty much gone. I'm feeling better but this acne on my chest just keeps coming, and still no libido.

I would say they are definitely linked together... maybe from stress or like you said fluctuating E levels. Do you have a past with getting acne on cycle?

 

[stevesmi]

Bro I know how u feel .. I call it relationship dik .when ur use to smashing the same girl so when u come across a new beaver u have A harder time getting up .. It sucks but drinking helps me with that problem .though u defenitly shouldn't drink on cycle

drinking just like any addiction merely brings a depressed person to equilibrium. so if yiou don't drink you slip back into depression again, it doesn't cure your depression it merely gives you a temporary bump. so if you have to drink to feel good then you need to definately seek help to rid yourself of that addiction.

 

[nb01741]

JoeBlob- I don't have a bad history with acne on cycle. This is my second cycle but on my first one with Test E I got a little bit of acne on my shoulders and back, nothing quite like this though.

Steve- I realize that completely... I am doing fine with that issue and don't need to resort to drinking or drugs to help myself get over her. But you are just the man I'm looking for; do you see a connection with me losing my libido and starting to get bad acne on my chest around the same time? I took 3 days off the Aromasin, but took 12.5mg today. I'm pretty convinced that my estrogen is in the shitter (but 12.5 eod shouldn't kill it right??) because I'm pretty gyno prone and haven't had any signs of itchy nips or lumps what so ever this cycle.