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anthony518

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I have had a little sinus cold off and on for the last 3 weeks, now sick as hell for three days. Will be better by monday, but loosing workouts. missed tris, shoulders,back and legs this week. Is that a big deal? Starting my 5th week on Monday of 500mg enan/400mg eq weekly for 15 weeks.

Anyway, do steroids lower your immune system? If so what can I do to fix it?
 
anthony518 said:
Anyway, do steroids lower your immune system? If so what can I do to fix it?


Wether you do AS or not, when you workout you subject your body to an incredible demand. As the body is focused on repair, immunity takes a back seat...so yes, you are more prone to infection when your body is in a weaker state. Make sure to get your nutrition in check (multi-vit, calories, water) and these problems will infrequently present themselves. :)
 
anthony518 said:
I have had a little sinus cold off and on for the last 3 weeks, now sick as hell for three days. Will be better by monday, but loosing workouts. missed tris, shoulders,back and legs this week. Is that a big deal? Starting my 5th week on Monday of 500mg enan/400mg eq weekly for 15 weeks.

Anyway, do steroids lower your immune system? If so what can I do to fix it?
Its test-flu. It occurs with other steroids too.
Some steroids may lower your immune system A BIT, but its believed its also an allergic reaction, and also due to increased hematocrit count in blood.

Take some cold meds, ease training a bit. Some deca helps the immune system.
 
big_boy_1 said:
Its test-flu. It occurs with other steroids too.
Some steroids may lower your immune system A BIT, but its believed its also an allergic reaction, and also due to increased hematocrit count in blood.

Take some cold meds, ease training a bit. Some deca helps the immune system.
deca "helps" the immune system? do you have any evidence to support this? ive never heard this before, and have been on deca only and have been sick for the last week and a half prob. I dont know if this is true, i deff felt like the cold got the best of me, my body didnt feel like it was fighting the cold as it could sometimes if i was perfectly healthy.
 
tempest2003 said:
deca "helps" the immune system? do you have any evidence to support this? ive never heard this before, and have been on deca only and have been sick for the last week and a half prob. I dont know if this is true, i deff felt like the cold got the best of me, my body didnt feel like it was fighting the cold as it could sometimes if i was perfectly healthy.



yo i second that deca helps ur immune system... I never get sick on deca.. theres articals on the net about it...
 
anthony518 said:
I have had a little sinus cold off and on for the last 3 weeks, now sick as hell for three days. Will be better by monday, but loosing workouts. missed tris, shoulders,back and legs this week. Is that a big deal? Starting my 5th week on Monday of 500mg enan/400mg eq weekly for 15 weeks.

Anyway, do steroids lower your immune system? If so what can I do to fix it?


rest, eat and continue cycle...train again in few days when feeling better.
 
Not even close to 100% but im think while on certain AAS (specifically strong androgens) your adrenal glands get bunged up .. hence weaker immune system. *someone set me straight here because this question has been bugging me as well
 
anthony518 said:
I have had a little sinus cold off and on for the last 3 weeks, now sick as hell for three days. Will be better by monday, but loosing workouts. missed tris, shoulders,back and legs this week. Is that a big deal? Starting my 5th week on Monday of 500mg enan/400mg eq weekly for 15 weeks.

Anyway, do steroids lower your immune system? If so what can I do to fix it?

Don't know the answer to your question but.....

2 grams of vitamin C always helps my immune system. 1 gram AM & 1 gram PM.
 
This is one of the reports that I have read on Testosterone lowering the body's immune system:


http://www.nationalreviewofmedicine.com/issue/2004/12_15/clinical05_23.html


Testosterone emasculates the male immune system

By Eileen Dent


The battle of the sexes probably began when first two gender-specific creatures crawled out of the primordial sludge. Biologically, women have proven to outperform men in at least one aspect — they're immune systems are stronger. This difference has baffled scientists for some time but we're getting closer to uncovering the secret. In fact, testosterone — that distinctly manly hormone — may be the culprit holding back the male immune system, according to research published in the November 15 issue of the Journal of Immunology.
"What we are showing is that testosterone seems to impede immunity," said Dr Eugene Kwon, a urologist and immunology researcher at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. "When testosterone is withdrawn, you get an increased host immune response indicated by the rising numbers of immune cells that are available to participate."

AXE ANDROGEN
Research has already noted that the immune system's B-cells multiply and lymph nodes swell upon androgen deprivation or upon removal of testosterone from the body. The researchers were also hoping to find the mechanism through which androgens like testosterone interact with the immune system. This study examined the effect of androgen deprivation on T-cell counts and efficacy.

Male mice were either surgically castrated or sham-castrated, where pericordal fat was removed instead of the testicles. T-cell expression was measured under several conditions including antigen stimulation, chemotherapy, thymus glands removal and in cell culture.

Androgen deprivation caused the T-cells to multiply and become more reactive to antigenic stimulation, confirming that testosterone affects T-cell numbers and function. However, adding testosterone back into androgen deprived T-cell cultures didn't decrease the number of T-cells or change the cells' characteristics. This means that testosterone isn't directly interacting with the immune cells to hinder their growth.

THE USUAL SUSPECTS
But when testosterone is away, other hormones may play. Since testosterone suppresses the production of prolactin, luteinizing hormone, estradiol and other hormones, an increase in one of these could be causing the enhanced immune response. More research is needed to establish a cause-and-effect relationship between the presence of various sex hormones and the potency of the immune response.

Once that relationship is found it could lead to a new way for doctors to hasten the recovery of the immune system after immunosuppression resulting from chemotherapy, burn injuries and blood loss. As the authors wrote, "These studies may have implications for enhancing immune responses to immunotherapy, for improving immune system recovery following chemotherapy, and for establishing a mechanistic basis whereby gonadal steroid hormones modulate autoimmunity."
 
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