OK. this is def a great product, I am up to 212 (weighed myself today). I got a huge pump today and felt and looked real good in the gym. Although i am gaining a lot frmo water weight, i am not noticing my muscles getting a "softer" look, i still am pretty ripped. I bought 2 more containers, and after that i am goin to try the simple creatine mono/ dextrose post workout mix. btw not on any anabolics. just eating very good/clean and taking a lot of needed supps.