I'm such a panzie

[plornive]

This advice won't really help you. Your problem involves your entire set of values regarding women. Honestly, I think you are hopeless. Rewiring your values system, while you don't even want to do it, might be outside the scope of a message board.

What I will tell you is that you should not worry about being polite. If you ask a girl if you are polite enough while approaching her, she might say you are impolite. If you rephrased the question and asked her if you were too polite, she might say yes. Don't take peoples' responses to heart.

 

[calveless wonder]

This is why you arent getting any serious replies. If you do a search on your own fucking posts you would see 89984898342892439 threads where you show how you are a chicken shit with girls, then we all try to give you advice, and over and over again, rinse, repeat, etc.

maybe he needs to start with plumpers

 

[vinylgroover]

Hmmm.. 3 pages, and only 2 tips of semi serious advice:

"write a note"
"or say hi"

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that's the whole point........there are no magic tricks or grand strategies here, it's simply a case of making an approach.

what are you afraid of? If you are afraid of getting a knockback, that's understandable. You will get knockbacks, it's all part of the deal. Even the best looking and most successful of guys will get knockbacks, but who cares.......you just back up and keep going.

I've had shitloads of knockbacks in my time, but i've also had my fair share of successes.......that's what it's all about.

Right now, you're not even in the game.

 

[string_bean00]

maybe he needs to start with plumpers

This could be good. Would get his confidence up. Going for the 'ol "lay-up" instead of the 3-pointer never did anyone any harm.

 

[fyxgel2]

This advice won't really help you. Your problem involves your entire set of values regarding women. Honestly, I think you are hopeless. Rewiring your values system, while you don't even want to do it, might be outside the scope of a message board.

What I will tell you is that you should not worry about being polite. If you ask a girl if you are polite enough while approaching her, she might say you are impolite. If you rephrased the question and asked her if you were too polite, she might say yes. Don't take peoples' responses to heart.

what about my value system is off? what needs to change? (in your opinion)

 

[bran987]

This advice won't really help you. Your problem involves your entire set of values regarding women. Honestly, I think you are hopeless. Rewiring your values system, while you don't even want to do it, might be outside the scope of a message board.

I told him this a few months ago, exactly this. this goes very deep. I even suggested some places for him to go to start learning how to change his belief systems but...

 

[fyxgel2]

I told him this a few months ago, exactly this. this goes very deep. I even suggested some places for him to go to start learning how to change his belief systems but...

tell me what you think i should change.

 

[noob]

tell me what you think i should change.

Ok normally, I'm just a lurker (bored at work and surfing various forums), but since you could use the help, I'll use my first post to give you my thoughts.

You're going in this thing the wrong way. For where you're at now, it doesn't matter what her response is. I'm assuming you don't have much experience with girls so for now, what you need is experience, and with that, you'll eventually learn.

Approach her, very casually, and just say hi, or what I find most effective is try to say something that will be funny, but at the same time, will also exert your confidence. Always show that you're in control of the situation and that YOU are the one dictating things. If she doesn't greet you back, call her out on being unfriendly. If she doesn't smile at your joke, call her out on lacking a sense of humor. In a subtle way, you're communicating to her that you're the one trying decide whether or not you should give her the time of day. The most important thing though, is body language. Girls are smart, they can sense a puss from a mile away, and if they get the vibe that you're unsure of yourself or what you're doing, they'll dismiss you just like that.

More than likely, you won't succeed the first time you try it (also depends on the girl), that's why you use this as a learning experience. In the future, if you're unsure whether or not you should approach a girl, DO IT. Remember, what's the worst that can happen? She doesn't like you and won't give you the time of day. Great. Get on with life and move on to the next broad instead of wasting time wondering what you should do. Practice makes perfect.

Hopes this helps.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

should i talk to her right now? she's still here, but she has her headphones on and her friend is sitting next to her. Should I introduce myself? or would that be rude?

If she found out you were procrastinating and pussying out asking us for what to do, you could just forget about anything between you and her ever.
Somehow I get the feeling that you doing more research than application. You can ask us all day for advice but it won't mean anything until you interact with some girl.

 

[crew9]

If she found out you were procrastinating and pussying out asking us for what to do, you could just forget about anything between you and her ever.
Somehow I get the feeling that you doing more research than application. You can ask us all day for advice but it won't mean anything until you interact with some girl.

Well put. You can know the fundamentals of a jump shot through and through but you're not making a shot until you practice it.