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I'm popping my cherry tomorrow...

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stilleto

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i get to fire someone.

wooo hooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
 
curvymommy said:
in for cherry poppin!!! What was the offense?

Were they doing what the CEO does?
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oh, nooooo.

He's a nice kid. Last year of college. He works here part time. He's got some ADD issues which are prohibitive to him actually finishing any project. Plus he's very inconsistant about when he can work, and therefore what he can do is limited because I can't count on him being here.
 
stilleto said:
oh, nooooo.

He's a nice kid. Last year of college. He works here part time. He's got some ADD issues which are prohibitive to him actually finishing any project. Plus he's very inconsistant about when he can work, and therefore what he can do is limited because I can't count on him being here.
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Awww, that is kinda sad. Sadly, he's probably used to failing at crap.

If you are a person who can be really productive and make the company a lot of money it's amazing what you can get away with, lol. But being incompetent is hard to get around when you also don't show up consistantly to suck ass at your job.

Tell him that.

JK, good luck!
 
Here's what you should do...

Stilleto: Hey (insert kids name), and you step into my office...

Employee: Why?

Stilleto: Cuz your FUCKING FIRED!!!!
 
jaybois said:
Bragging about firing the kid.
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You're serious?
lol

a. i'm not bragging to HIM.
b. I'm pretty sure that how I act on a chat forum does not reflect how professionally I do my job.
c. I didn't insult him, call him names, or say anything rude about him at all. in fact, I said he's nice.

d. lol
 
stilleto said:
You're serious?
lol

a. i'm not bragging to HIM.
b. I'm pretty sure that how I act on a chat forum does not reflect how professionally I do my job.
c. I didn't insult him, call him names, or say anything rude about him at all. in fact, I said he's nice.

d. lol
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Just my opinion,nothing more:)
 
Show him some cleavage while firing him. It'll be distracting and seem less painful. You may have to repeat yourself though.

Fire me too while you're at it.:qt:
 
I remember the first time I ever had to fire someone,...........it was "awful"

(one of the toughest things to do)

Good luck
 
well, we got it over with.
I didn't want to make the kid come all the way in, just to let him go, so the HR woman and I had a conference call with him.

it was not hard because we left it on good terms and he knew he didn't have much to do here and was having trouble focusing on work and school. I told him to call us when he has chunks of time- summers and other breaks, and definitely when he graduates. So he was cool with that.
 
stilleto said:
well, we got it over with.
I didn't want to make the kid come all the way in, just to let him go, so the HR woman and I had a conference call with him.

it was not hard because we left it on good terms and he knew he didn't have much to do here and was having trouble focusing on work and school. I told him to call us when he has chunks of time- summers and other breaks, and definitely when he graduates. So he was cool with that.
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That was nice of you!
 
stilleto said:
well, we got it over with.
I didn't want to make the kid come all the way in, just to let him go, so the HR woman and I had a conference call with him.

it was not hard because we left it on good terms and he knew he didn't have much to do here and was having trouble focusing on work and school. I told him to call us when he has chunks of time- summers and other breaks, and definitely when he graduates. So he was cool with that.
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So you went with the cleavage thing?
 
it's a lot of responsibility firing someone..

It is within your power to really help him, make a difference....

that's the challenge to you..
 
stilleto said:
oh, nooooo.

He's a nice kid. Last year of college. He works here part time. He's got some ADD issues which are prohibitive to him actually finishing any project. Plus he's very inconsistant about when he can work, and therefore what he can do is limited because I can't count on him being here.
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First of all, I'm all about businesses doing what they need to do to remain competitive when it comes to lower-quality employees.

But you do realize that by referring to him as "some ADD issues", you've acknowledged a recognized disability and he qualifies under the Americans with Disabilities Act, don't you? Unless you have reached-out to him and made "reasonable accomodations" to help him deal with his condition at work, you just violated the law.

Another great example is alcoholism. You can show-up to work drunk and I can fire you. But once you come into my office and confess that you are an alcoholic and seeking treatment, the water gets muddy in one hell of a hurry.

We need HR on this one! Doesn't stilleto have some obligation to an employee she openly acknowledges as ADD?
 
mrplunkey said:
First of all, I'm all about businesses doing what they need to do to remain competitive when it comes to lower-quality employees.

But you do realize that by referring to him as "some ADD issues", you've acknowledged a recognized disability and he qualifies under the Americans with Disabilities Act, don't you? Unless you have reached-out to him and made "reasonable accomodations" to help him deal with his condition at work, you just violated the law.

Another great example is alcoholism. You can show-up to work drunk and I can fire you. But once you come into my office and confess that you are an alcoholic and seeking treatment, the water gets muddy in one hell of a hurry.

We need HR on this one! Doesn't stilleto have some obligation to an employee she openly acknowledges as ADD?
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HR stands for heather rae, not Human resources.

btw YOU do realize that just because *I* say he has some ADD issues doesn't mean that a doctor has, right? or that he's even mentioned them to me at all, right? You realize that he didn't "confess" anything to me, or that he's being let go because of his supposed ADD issues- he's being let go because we don't have enough work for him and he doesn't complete the projects he has and because he's in college, I never know when he'll even be here.

Plunkster, I know you're rather uptight, but you don't have to take EVERYTHING literally. I didn't say "I know he has ADD", and he's not covered under the american's with disabilities act.
lol
 
stilleto said:
HR stands for heather rae, not Human resources.

btw YOU do realize that just because *I* say he has some ADD issues doesn't mean that a doctor has, right? or that he's even mentioned them to me at all, right? You realize that he didn't "confess" anything to me, or that he's being let go because of his supposed ADD issues- he's being let go because we don't have enough work for him and he doesn't complete the projects he has and because he's in college, I never know when he'll even be here.

Plunkster, I know you're rather uptight, but you don't have to take EVERYTHING literally. I didn't say "I know he has ADD", and he's not covered under the american's with disabilities act.
lol
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Remember I'm on your side on this one. I personally believe in at-will employment (which may be too extreme for you or even for most people).

But if you or he have ever made a joke about having an "ADD moment" or an "ADD day" or anything related to a disability, you'd be shocked what a good ambulance-chaser can do with it. Just mix-in a few anecdotal stories about noisy cubicles or work areas... hectic hallways... random interruptions... blah blah. Then explain how mean 'ole stilleto wouldn't listen to his concerns about being too easily distracted. Then point-out that perfectly empty supply closet down the hall that he kept kidding about being "his office" -- but maybe he wasn't kidding. And then let's talk about the emotional trauma brought-on by him being fired at such an impressionable age. You wrecked him during the most important inflection point in his life!

Hey! I love this guy's case. PM me his personal info. You're going dooooooooown! I'll see you in court.
 
mrplunkey said:
Remember I'm on your side on this one. I personally believe in at-will employment (which may be too extreme for you or even for most people).

But if you or he have ever made a joke about having an "ADD moment" or an "ADD day" or anything related to a disability, you'd be shocked what a good ambulance-chaser can do with it. Just mix-in a few anecdotal stories about noisy cubicles or work areas... hectic hallways... random interruptions... blah blah. Then explain how mean 'ole stilleto wouldn't listen to his concerns about being too easily distracted. Then point-out that perfectly empty supply closet down the hall that he kept kidding about being "his office" -- but maybe he wasn't kidding. And then let's talk about the emotional trauma brought-on by him being fired at such an impressionable age. You wrecked him during the most important inflection point in his life!

Hey! I love this guy's case. PM me his personal info. You're going dooooooooown! I'll see you in court.
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lol. i understand you- sorry if i seemed snotty in my reply.
he's never told me he has ADD. I just see it. he is (was) basically an intern that we paid like $10 an hour, although he had all these grandiose ideas about his worth at the company.
He may not even realize he's been let go completely, because i told him to call us during his breaks from school and when he graduates.

i'm more diplomatic in person than i am here. :)
 
Funny I never thought I would be good management material because I never thought I could fire someone. The Old Grump and I even joked about this specific topic on our radio show. Anyways, the first time I fired someone admittedly it was difficult because I am not one that enjoys conflict. But after I did it, I actually enjoyed it as the person clearly had it coming to them.

There was only ONE TIME I felt bad about firing someone (and I fired plenty LOL) because the guy was clean cut, always on time, really REALLY tried, was a grown man with a family to support but he just wasn't cut out for the industry we were in and I had to bring someone else into his seat to increase productivity. If my department didn't bring in money, it meant less money for the company - period. I told the guy that I would give him a stellar reference (which I would) and that I would also say that the reason I would give for his termination was "he was one of the last ones hired (which was true) so when the department needed to make cuts he was one of the first ones to go (which wasn't too far from the truth)."

I really REALLY enjoyed firing this one crazy bitch right there on the floor.... LOL

meh I am going straight to hell. Muwahahahahahahaaa
 
stilleto said:
lol. i understand you- sorry if i seemed snotty in my reply.
he's never told me he has ADD. I just see it. he is (was) basically an intern that we paid like $10 an hour, although he had all these grandiose ideas about his worth at the company.
He may not even realize he's been let go completely, because i told him to call us during his breaks from school and when he graduates.

i'm more diplomatic in person than i am here. :)
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Oh hell no! I've found me a case now. Me and this guy are gonna sue for a trillion dollars.

But...

Why make trillions when we can make... billions?

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Yes, I'm gonna get Dr. Evil on your ass!

(and that is the difficulty of posting over the Intrawebs, its hard to tell who's being uptight or snotty and who isn't. I'm actually a very laid-back person IRL :) )
 
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