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I'm losing the battle, and it's all your fault!

magnet schools work out very well here.....my next door neighbors kid goes to a school geared towards sciences/engineering
generally you're a pretentious fool if you send your kids to a private school around here, because they tend to actually score a little lower than our local public schools

this is our local high school

http://www.cantonschools.org/content/pdf_files/US_News_and_World_Report.pdf


US News and World Report

In US News and World Report's third annual high school ranking,
[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]Canton High School scored in the silver category[/FONT][/FONT], [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]one of only 16 Connecticut schools to place[/FONT][/FONT].

Twelve schools were awarded silver and four were awarded bronze. The study reportedly analyzed 143 Connecticut high schools and 21,000 nationwide.

[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]Click here to read more[/FONT][/FONT].
 
Decent argument.

So would you support this: Private vouchers would only pay 80% of full public fare. The public system would get the 20% difference for their own use. That creates a 40% swing between private and public funding. If given that advantage public educations still couldn't survive, would you support the shift?

No.

Here's how I look at it. I don't have children, but my property tax money still goes to the public schools. I don't get any direct benefit from that, apart from the general benefit to society. And I'm content with that. Why should someone else be able to opt out and take their money to a parochial or for-profit school?

Also, how are the public school systems supposed to come up with an annual budget if they're faced with the uncertainty of how many vouchers are going to be used?

No. If you opt out, it's at your own expense.
 
just agreement? :confused:

no Mo comment included :confused: :confused: :confused:

Anytime I reply to a comment of yours, a MO characterization hurled at you is implicit.

Think of it as the same as when you make eye contact with any guy at Cutter's. Assault of your o-ring is purely a matter of time and jaeger after that point.
 
No.

Here's how I look at it. I don't have children, but my property tax money still goes to the public schools. I don't get any direct benefit from that, apart from the general benefit to society. And I'm content with that. Why should someone else be able to opt out and take their money to a parochial or for-profit school?

Also, how are the public school systems supposed to come up with an annual budget if they're faced with the uncertainty of how many vouchers are going to be used?

No. If you opt out, it's at your own expense.

Government at any cost. That's why we probably will never recover from the mess we're in until we go bankrupt.

How does the US postal service know how many people to hire when faced with the uncertainty of Federal Express and UPS?

Plenty of your tax dollars go to private entities. Should we nationalize all defense contractors? What about health care providers? What about companies that make products the government purchases? Lots of federal money goes to universities -- should we nationalize all universities? The government is the largest single buyer of computers in the US -- should we nationalize Dell as well?
 
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Any family who would use vouchers to help fund their children's private school is taking their funds away from the public schools to do so. Supporters of vouchers intend for this de-funding of the public schools to lead to their eventual demise and privatize the primary education system.

Deebs, I agree with most of what you are saying but the one affedct you may be missing is that with all the people going to private schools, there could be less public schools = less teachers, less taxes.

So in a perectly elastic economy, every $1 that goes out in vouchers would = $2 in tax savings (if they are really that much more efficient). Of course you would have to completely eliminate teacher's unions to get this done.
 
Deebs, I agree with most of what you are saying but the one affedct you may be missing is that with all the people going to private schools, there could be less public schools = less teachers, less taxes.

So in a perectly elastic economy, every $1 that goes out in vouchers would = $2 in tax savings (if they are really that much more efficient). Of course you would have to completely eliminate teacher's unions to get this done.

No, I think that's implicit in what I was saying before. "Vouchers" is part of an agenda to privatize education, via gradual downsizing.

Also, what about home school kids? Will their parents be able to just take the voucher money and keep it?
 
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