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I'm losing muscle on Test E :*(

How many weeks in? What else are you running? If you are past your 2nd week and are still not feeling something then yeah, it's bunk or at the very least way underdosed. Does your source have a return policy?
 
Ok I was 206

I did 3 weeks of DieselBolan and went up to 215 and started taking 750 test

after I stopped Diesel, my weight started to go down... now I'm 203

I'm on test for 8 weeks.... My diet has been shitty for the past 2 3 weeks but still I shouldn't be losing MUSCLE !!
 
run a blood test immediately. Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online choose the female hormone panel.. its like 50 bucks... then i want you to go get bloods and post up the results on here. that is the only way you will find out what is going on.

you still have to work out and eat right even on AAS. we are not rats or cows.. we are human beings, it takes more than injecting steroids to get results.
 
I know my diet is sucking these weeks ! but I'm on 750 test a week man... Testosterone is Anti Catabolic and I should not be burning Muscle

If I stayed at 215 and not gained weight then I wouldn't worry
 
You said it ALL.....DIET brother!!!

How many calories are u eating each day ?
You're probably losing water from the oral you took ,next time begin the test at the same time as the oral (kickstart)
 
How many calories are u eating each day ?
You're probably losing water from the oral you took ,next time begin the test at the same time as the oral (kickstart)

I did start test E with Diesel

I'm taking about 2500 4000 calories a day, somewhere in there, depends

I stopped Diesel due to sides at week 3, I went from 206 to 215 216

and by time Im losing it all... I'm using Arimidex too

Im just wondering is this weight loss Muscle or FAT and water ?
 
Well at least you know the dieselbolan is the Real Deal ... dam thats some nice gains in 3 weeks .... Test could b way underdosed or bunk ? Bump on the bloodwork cause that tells all !!!
 
I agree get bloodwork done, you may be type 2 Diabetes and not know it!
 
I also have a dumb question, How much weight per an inch of height ?

I don't think Im diabetic, I'm an ectomorph, 6'2'' 155 in high school, now I'm 6'2.5 and 203 at 23
 
How do you LOSE muscle? If you're natty and work out you'll grow muscle.

Get to a doctor.
 
I would asume you were bloated and holding water from the orals witch would be easy to do on a shitty diet... Drop the orals and the bloat goes away... The test hasnt kicked in yet... Seems like the obvious to me. Id say nothing sounds out of the normal
 
How can you say that you are loosing muscles? Are you basing it on weight alone? If yes, then its not a basis. People still loose muscles even if they are on anabolics, drugs don't do all the work ya know. Plus, since you're taking an ancillary (arimidex) it would combat the estrogen conversion in your body and would also aid in removing water retention... So, don't freak out. Weight isn't the basis of everything. I know these things from experience and knowledge.
 
first you should lose the attitude. Thats not cool.

2nd it looks like you didnt do your research properly and are now suffering a bunch of consequences from it.

3rd get blood work done

4th if you were on 750mg of test you should know it EASILY. if you dont you are either too inexeperienced to know it or in denial.

5th weight loss and muscle loss are two very different things

6th why is your diet messed up while on 750mg of test. If you dont know what you are eating that is a very bad sign.
 
first you should lose the attitude. Thats not cool.

2nd it looks like you didnt do your research properly and are now suffering a bunch of consequences from it.

3rd get blood work done

4th if you were on 750mg of test you should know it EASILY. if you dont you are either too inexeperienced to know it or in denial.

5th weight loss and muscle loss are two very different things

6th why is your diet messed up while on 750mg of test. If you dont know what you are eating that is a very bad sign.

:heart:
 
i am going to say water loss and bad diet, unless you have also dropped strength i dont see how you can differentiate between muscle loss and water loss , today alone i have fluctuated from 242 lbs to 232 lbs , and nothing has changed in my orals or inj , it happens, get your diet back on track and consistent firstly
 
did you even read ? I'm on Test E 750 and dropped from 215 to 203... could that be all fat and water ?

Your not seriously using the scale to judge muscle mass are you?
 
I did start test E with Diesel

I'm taking about 2500 4000 calories a day, somewhere in there, depends

I stopped Diesel due to sides at week 3, I went from 206 to 215 216

and by time Im losing it all... I'm using Arimidex too

Im just wondering is this weight loss Muscle or FAT and water ?

I think your losing water weight !! how much adex are you taking ???
4000 cals is the minimum you should be eating on this cycle ?? dont freak out .. the mirror will tell you if you are losing muscle which I doubt it ?? fast gains are from water retention not muscle, but just to be certain get a blood test .
 
OP, listen to stevemi and radar. Do not keep beating yourself up about this. IMO, because I am dealing with something very similar now. There is bunk out there, but dont assume 100% it is the problem. I was on more test than you with the same results you are getting and my diet and training are spot on. . I had a testosterone test done and the levels were very very high. No water retention, no strength and my performance was going backwards. I amd looking into the prolactin levels and estrogen levels as the culprit. The can bind to the same recepters as test and rob them of its uptake. Plus they suck for performance and other side effects that they produce. At 750 a week you should easily be between 2000-3000 on the scale for test. If it normal the gear is bunk.
 
I also have a dumb question, How much weight per an inch of height ?

I don't think Im diabetic, I'm an ectomorph, 6'2'' 155 in high school, now I'm 6'2.5 and 203 at 23

Lol! Thats what you think,I am getting more & more Students I train and more show up with Type 2 Diabetes ,as a matter of fact there are over 1.5 million people Walking around in the USA who are type 2 Diabetic and not know it!
most of this attributes to a poor or half decent diet, the problem can be easily corrected by Diet ,but first you need to get a Blood Test ,and sugar Glucose reading to see where you stand before you can start Treating it!


What you're doing right now is Basically Shooting in the dark!
 
i am going to say water loss and bad diet, unless you have also dropped strength i dont see how you can differentiate between muscle loss and water loss , today alone i have fluctuated from 242 lbs to 232 lbs , and nothing has changed in my orals or inj , it happens, get your diet back on track and consistent firstly

Exactly... 10lbs in one day is not unheard of and great point about strength, post up some #' of the lifts... No disrespect to steve or radar but im not getting a blood test everytime the scale flucuates... As far as diabetic thats a whole diff story nothing wrong with any of us testing for that at anytime but to base that on just some weight loss after quiting orals an a shitty diet hmmmmm.
 
ok I will get a blood test soon, someone said I have an attitude, I really don't bros ! I don't know what I said that made you think I have an attitude... peace

and I will get the diabetes test soon, does it come with the blood test ? or do I need to get those kits ?
 
Clomid I guess :) lol but no seriously ! where did I have an attitude :0

When u text or type it's hard for some people to keep an open mind to your attitude, I'm sure if u were standing in front of them talking they would see your sincere.... Anyways gl with your bloodtest I hope your gears ligit an ur not diabetic.... And the poster that asked about ur strength was spot on if u lost 14lbs of muscle ur lifts would suffer big time, I'm still a strong believer it's all water.
 
I would take this as a bad attitude just like Nelson did....

I expect this conversation between members here to be respectful & helpful,if it can't be that way then It's better off closed,so expect me to be watching!
 
We all know how frustrating it can be. I am curious as to how your strength is too OP. Do you feel weaker, or the same after stopping the orals? I know I could not move ahead and some days were a little behind.
 
Let's say the thread went like this...
I did a 3 week cycle of beastrol, my diet wasn't that good but I managed to gain 14lbs but I lost it all at the end wtf????

The testosterone really shouldn't be part of the equation...

So answer would be a lil bit more obvious, real test or fake test, diabetic or not obviously he was holding on to some water... Bloodwork is never a bad idea or being checked for diabetes, but I wouldn't go running to do it based on those symptoms alone.
 
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