I'm Hate'n life right now!!!

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

I just finished week 4 of this cycle. My pre-cycle stats were 190lbs(5'11") at 12%BF. I've made jack-shit as far as gains so far... I'm a pound or two heavier. My strength gains are negligable as well... I'm SLIGHTLY stronger than pre-cycle. The most distinct progress I've made in the past month has been in the hardness of my physique... my BF has to be below 10% now, my waist is down a few inches. The post work out pumps I'm getting are great and LONG lasting.

I was expecting so much more from this cycle. For those who will suggest my gear is fake(cause I know its coming)... no freakin way!!! Most of it is Spectro, which I got from a very respected Spectro source. The Sustenon are Niles... tried and tested by the same source.

My diet has been good. I'm eating lots of calories, lots of protein too... 5-6 meals a day. I'm in the gym 5 days/week. My sleep been good as well.

The one thing I'll go ahead and blame for the lack of progress here is Liquidex. I've been using L.dex 1mg/EOD since the start and I believe its cutting into my gains. This is the first time I've used L.dex. I've done 4 cycles before this one, all were much more conservative, and my gains were more "significant" in the first month during previous cycles

I started this the 3rd week of July, I was clean since the end of March. Can you Brothers suggest anything? Am I doing something wrong? I've cut the L.dex to 1mg/E3rdD... I really hope to see some gains soon.

------------Propionate---------Sustenon------EQ--------------Proviron

Week 1--100mg/EOD-------500mg/EW --500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 2--100mg/EOD-------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 3--100mg/EOD-------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 4--100mg/EOD-------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 5--------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 6--------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 7--------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 8--------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED
Week 9--------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW--50mg/ED
Week 10------------------------500mg/EW---500mg/EW---50mg/ED

-----------------------Tren----------Winstrol V

Week 11-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED
Week 12-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED
Week 13-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED
Week 14-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED
Week 15-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED
Week 16-----------75mg/ED---50mg/ED





Peace,
S.

 

[boss]

shit with that you should be getting better gains than that. why did you go with liquidex in the first place?

 

[Silverback316]

Drop the l-dex and see what happens.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

This is the first cycle I've undertaken where the miligram dosages have come near a gram/week... let alone exceed that! I chose to use L.dex based on what I read on this board... and a very realistic fear of acquiring gyno, of course.

 

[boss]

i would of waited to see if gyno was a possibilty?? i have gyno problems and always wait to see an onset before i start counter-action. i would drop it and see if the gains pick up. let us know if it does work out for you.

 

[71olds442]

the only gains liquidex stops is that of estrogenic fat and water.. it wont prevent muscle gain. unlike nolvadex and proviron it doesnt compete with receptors. it simply prevents them from aromatising. id drop the proviron and keep the l-dex

 

[71olds442]

you are also only 4wks into it.. give it TIME!! i agree you should have gained from the prop, but the eq and sust havent fully started doing their thing yet. how many calories do you eat a day?

 

[Lumberg]

actually it can reduce IGF-1 levels as well as make you feel like shit.

I would not go higher than .25 g/day.

JC

 

[Quadsweep]

you are also only 4wks into it.. give it TIME!! i agree you should have gained from the prop, but the eq and sust havent fully started doing their thing yet. how many calories do you eat a day?

Thats what I was thinking. It takes me a month to really start gaining.

Quad

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Yeah... I'm going to back-the fuck off-the L.dex and see how she goes. I realize I'm being quite impatient with this, but in the months before starting this bad-boy... I had very high expectations. I figured the Prop and Proviron alone would have started the gains straight away.

In the past week, I've been VERY temped to rearrange(shorten) the cycle and stack the Tren and V I've got WITH the Test and EQ. However, I've decided that nothing good would come from acting so reckless. I'd most likely end up in a mental institution, jail, or dead if I ran it like that... thats a lot of drugs for a guy under 200lbs! I'll just run it as planned and bin the L.dex. I've got a shat-load of Nolvadex on hand if the nipples act up.

Thanks for the replies Brothers.

 

[biggerdave]

cycle looks good bro all i can suggest is keep upping your cals, how many you getting per day? i dont think l-dex inhibits gains, certainly not as much as you think it has but drop it if you like, besides you might not even need it. no point wasting it.
like the other guys said the sust and EQ are only just reaching decent levels so should start working from now on.
no point playing with the cycle now leave it as is, you will grow.
be patient my friend.

dave.

 

[Japanese machine]

actually it can reduce IGF-1 levels as well as make you feel like shit.

I would not go higher than .25 g/day.

JC

Ive heard this about Nolva but not arimidex/liquidex.

More info in IGF-1 please

 

[mike1107]

give it some time,eq takes a few weeks to kick in,and for lard and cut look,just wait for trenb and winny and you'll see the difference.
I don't thinl L.dex has something to do with limited gains.

 

[ded_prez]

i would rather gain 10-15 lbs of solid muscle over a 16 week period than gain 10 lbs of bloat and water the 1st 4 weeks of a cycle....what about u??

 

[Terd]

I'm not an expert, but maybe your overtrianig.

 

[painly]

you have fake gear

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

you have fake gear

As I stated in my first post... the integrity of my source and the authenticity of my gear is unquestionable.

Thanks to all the Brothers who advised me on this. Karma to all of ya.

Peace,
S.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

more food is the answer

 

[Taomaster]

Why are you using the Proviron?
Could affect your gains.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Why Proviron- Yeah, this is my first experience with it. Based on what I've read about it... is sounded promising. This is the first I've heard about it "costing" me, more than its "benifiting" me.

Its the Proviron or L.dex. Everything else is tried and true.