I'm growing breasts. F-cking cool

[madcow502]

4 weeks into my cycle 750 test e 600 eq e week 30 mg dbol .75mg letro ed. I added 300mg deca 2 weeks in started growing a breast today I'm so proud. I have been taking dostinex and b6 to try and avoid the deca gyno no luck. Or my letro is shit? my libido was fine until last week i think the letro is good because my sex drive dropped i've heard the lack of estogen will do that. I added nolva today incase its estrogen gyno 40 mg ed. It happened fast no soreness no itch just bam a small mass next to the nipple.hope this info might help someone.

 

[Beachbum1546]

I always wondered what products to use when trying to combat pregesterone related gyno (from deca or tren). Is letro supposed to be the best or at least good?

 

[herdus33]

I always wondered what products to use when trying to combat pregesterone related gyno (from deca or tren). Is letro supposed to be the best or at least good?

The letro is actually for test gyno, not deca or tren gyno. He meant that dostinex and B6 is used to treat deca or tren gyno. Although some argue if it even works.

I am currently running tren with dostinex with no signs of gyno. I think the key might be to run the dostinex a little before the tren, and a little after. Im not sure but i think dostinex lowers prolactin levels, not progesterone (which causes gyno). But i think the two are related in a way that if prolactin levels are low, along with estrogen levels, progesterone gyno should not be an issue. Maybe someone can back me up on this?

 

[Bruce]

dostinex is not for progesterone gyno it just keeps prolactin levels stable so you can have multiple orgasms. makavelli posted the one thing that rids progesterone gyno, look up the thread finally a progesterone inhibitor, also nolva and winny work for deca or tren gyno. b-6 stops prolactin from building up in the nips

 

[madcow502]

All these thing that people claim work it depends on the person. Nolva has done nothing for me and deca gyno 80 mgs ed. Heres another example of go figure one side has problems the other side perfectly fine?WTF. There are people that swear dostinex works. Lets have exaples did you run deca or tren and get gyno then run the same cycle and ad dostinex or nolva and not run in to any problems. I started the deca this time to test a couple of these theories and see if they would work for me and for the info. i"m going to start my winnie tommorow and see what happens with it in the mix.

 

[herdus33]

dostinex is not for progesterone gyno it just keeps prolactin levels stable so you can have multiple orgasms. makavelli posted the one thing that rids progesterone gyno, look up the thread finally a progesterone inhibitor, also nolva and winny work for deca or tren gyno. b-6 stops prolactin from building up in the nips

Thanks for the input Bruce, which I knew you'd have lol!!.......But isnt there some relation between prolactin and progesterone....like progesterone needs prolactin to produce?.....obviously I havent research this fully but I was just wondering if you knew off hand. Thanks.....K to you..

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Nolva has done nothing for me and deca gyno 80 mgs ed.

you seriously didn't take nolva thinking it would get rid of deca gyno did you

 

[madcow502]

you seriously didn't take nolva thinking it would get rid of deca gyno did you

I tried it a couple of years ago a few guys on this board swear it helps deca gyno. i dont think so. look up at post #4 from bruce410

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I tried it a couple of years ago a few guys on this board swear it helps deca gyno. i dont think so. look up at post #4 from bruce410

yes winny will work

 

[wootool]

you seriously didn't take nolva thinking it would get rid of deca gyno did you

there's alot of serious bro's who subscribe to the theory that progesterone gyno requires a small amount of estrogen to manifest. so if you cut off the estrogen supply or block the estrogen receptors, you might prevent the problem.

and dostinex combats prolactin (whicch can cause libido/performance problems), but has no action against progesterone.


p.s. dont mind the rubber on my head, I didnt feel like logging out and logging in to my real account.
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[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

there's alot of serious bro's who subscribe to the theory that progesterone gyno requires a small amount of estrogen to manifest. so if you cut off the estrogen supply or block the estrogen receptors, you might prevent the problem.

and dostinex combats prolactin (whicch can cause libido/performance problems), but has no action against progesterone.


p.s. dont mind the rubber on my head, I didnt feel like logging out and logging in to my real account.
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WTF LMFAO Wootoom what the shit is going on with YOU! wootool?lloolooolo

 

[madcow502]

yes winny will work

I actualy started the winnie tonight well see if it helps ? There are bros that say winnie works but no proof . just saying Hey I didnt get deca gyno and i take winnie dosn't prove anything. Did you get gyno before then run deca agian with winnnie with no sides. see what i mean?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I actualy started the winnie tonight well see if it helps ? There are bros that say winnie works but no proof . just saying Hey I didnt get deca gyno and i take winnie dosn't prove anything. Did you get gyno before then run deca agian with winnnie with no sides. see what i mean?

no i run deca every cycle and have run it with and without just as many times and never got gyno from it either way....only test did it for me. Winny at 50-100mg will help unless your taking 1.5 grams of deca

 

[madcow502]

no i run deca every cycle and have run it with and without just as many times and never got gyno from it either way....only test did it for me. Winny at 50-100mg will help unless your taking 1.5 grams of deca

I hope the winnie works I really like running deca if it were not for my problems with it. when i got the gyno last time it wasn't very bad a small sore lump it went away when i cut out the deca and tren. It came back after i had been off for about 4 months. it just went away after two years

 

[ryan04]

What makes you so sure its progesterone gyno? 300 mgs of deca a week isn't much. Sounds to me like it's the 750 mgs test and 30 mgs dbol. Could be wrong though. Are you holding a lot of water? If so, theres a good chance its estrogen related gyno.

 

[ryan04]

Any bikini pics? Increase the deca to 2 grams a week, cut out the ancillaries and hold out till you got some double d's. Then SHOW US YOUR TITS!


Just kidding bro, sounds like you've got all the necessary artillary to get it under control. My first cycle I ran no anti-e's and got a small lump about the size of a bb next to my left nipple, went away on it's own. Or did it? (rubbing my nipple right now)

 

[doyouyahoo]

What makes you so sure its progesterone gyno? 300 mgs of deca a week isn't much. Sounds to me like it's the 750 mgs test and 30 mgs dbol. Could be wrong though. Are you holding a lot of water? If so, theres a good chance its estrogen related gyno.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[karachi183]

Nolva worked fine for me and brought it down alot. For me it was dbol....

 

[Bruce]

ok here is the link. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443165&highlight=finally+progesterone+inhibitor
if you can get your hands on this do more power to you. also in this thread it is explained how nolva and winny TOGETHER can get rid of progest gyno. and it is true the progesterone must have estrogen to bind to in order to form actual lumps. so if you keep away the estrogen you should only have sore or itchy nips from tren or deca. prolactin build up is also from tren and deca, it can cause liquid to come out of the nips (lactation) its no joke i dealt with it as have many bros. b-6 certainly works for this but it is not an overnight thing. dostinex effects prolactin but will not prevent lactation only keep levels stable for sexual purposes. i can tell you that winny absolutely will bind the progesterone i used it at the end of a deca cycle last year worked great and hardened me up, only regrets is the sore joints

 

[anal itch]

Any bikini pics? Increase the deca to 2 grams a week, cut out the ancillaries and hold out till you got some double d's. Then SHOW US YOUR TITS!

lol, that's just not right!

Bump for a bro

 

[madcow502]

What makes you so sure its progesterone gyno? 300 mgs of deca a week isn't much. Sounds to me like it's the 750 mgs test and 30 mgs dbol. Could be wrong though. Are you holding a lot of water? If so, theres a good chance its estrogen related gyno.

im taking letro for estrogen since the first day of cycle. I have run the same test and more dbol before with no trouble. Only run into trouble when deca or tren are involved. unless its bad letro but it worked fine before. I'm trying a different brand letro started it last night the new stuff burns extremely bad when i do the drops.

 

[deltron2000]

where's your letro from? pm me

 

[LVTitan]

dostinex is not for progesterone gyno it just keeps prolactin levels stable so you can have multiple orgasms. makavelli posted the one thing that rids progesterone gyno, look up the thread finally a progesterone inhibitor, also nolva and winny work for deca or tren gyno. b-6 stops prolactin from building up in the nips

if you can get your hands on it, RU486 is a progesterone blocker. but yeah, i'd stick with dostinex and throw some winny/nolva in there, since winny tends to bind to the progesterone receptor or some shit like that