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Ulcasterdropout
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we are not as free as you think.columbia58 said:
I'm going to be controversial here and ask, your opinion.
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columbia58
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Ulcasterdropout said:
You are so cenacle...you are so fraught with wretchedness, but I still love ya brother.
strangebrew
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columbia58 said:
Couldn't help it.
columbia58
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strangebrew said:
Help what...
AristotleBC
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Because they were in the situation that got them killed in part because of good character and a desire to help others despite the additional personal risk which they were aware of before hand and accepted in a desire to do good.
They also died while defending the rest of us, and should be honored and appreciated for it
They also died while defending the rest of us, and should be honored and appreciated for it
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Ulcasterdropout
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A funny story on freedom, involving the flag in your avi.
You know that soldiers in the Confederacy, of the Civil War fought for 'freedom'?
....yeah. Slavery? Nahhh...It was for "states rights". Federal government was prying into state legislation. Southern boys weren't having it.....you know how it turned out. If they had won, it would have been the called the '2nd Revolution', or some shit, but they didn't. Died in the hundreds of thousands, homes burnt, yata yata.
Why? Was their freedom in danger from big brother? maybe....
The point is that those low class, uneducation boys fought like hell, not for freedom, but so a sellect few southern plantation owners could keep their slaves.
You see, before the Civil War, the south had a sweet deal with Europe (mainly UK) for cotton, Europe's population was blowing up and needed cotton for clothes (Industrial revolution, cotton gin, that stuff).
If they lost their slaves, it would cost them millions. The plantationers were also politicians.
Those southern boys who fought and died, fought so a bunch of rich guys, could keep getting richer with slave cotton for European gold. The soldier's freedom was never in jeopardy, but they believed it was....
Their's your freedom...
You know that soldiers in the Confederacy, of the Civil War fought for 'freedom'?
....yeah. Slavery? Nahhh...It was for "states rights". Federal government was prying into state legislation. Southern boys weren't having it.....you know how it turned out. If they had won, it would have been the called the '2nd Revolution', or some shit, but they didn't. Died in the hundreds of thousands, homes burnt, yata yata.
Why? Was their freedom in danger from big brother? maybe....
The point is that those low class, uneducation boys fought like hell, not for freedom, but so a sellect few southern plantation owners could keep their slaves.
You see, before the Civil War, the south had a sweet deal with Europe (mainly UK) for cotton, Europe's population was blowing up and needed cotton for clothes (Industrial revolution, cotton gin, that stuff).
If they lost their slaves, it would cost them millions. The plantationers were also politicians.
Those southern boys who fought and died, fought so a bunch of rich guys, could keep getting richer with slave cotton for European gold. The soldier's freedom was never in jeopardy, but they believed it was....
Their's your freedom...
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Ulcasterdropout
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When I hear stories like that, It's American soldiers doing the dragging and rapping.hotzie said:
GoldenDelicious
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its all bullshit. its a tactic used by politicians to tug at public heartstrings and bestow worthless, intangeable "meaning" to thankless jobs, and thereby giving more job satisfaction to people working in those shitty jobs.
politicians talk about "the fallen" reverently, as if they were doing their job for noble reasons, and not their paychecks. its a scam.
be a soldier! be a patriot! protect america! protect freedom! protect democracy! quick heres 30 grand in bonuses, did you know that you stand more chance of being killed in traffic than being blown up by a bomb in iraq? its really not THAT dangerous, and the moneys great! theres a great future in the army! women love the uniform too!
what a load of bullshit.
politicians talk about "the fallen" reverently, as if they were doing their job for noble reasons, and not their paychecks. its a scam.
be a soldier! be a patriot! protect america! protect freedom! protect democracy! quick heres 30 grand in bonuses, did you know that you stand more chance of being killed in traffic than being blown up by a bomb in iraq? its really not THAT dangerous, and the moneys great! theres a great future in the army! women love the uniform too!
what a load of bullshit.
DJ_UFO
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GoldenDelicious said:
WTF do you know about America? and if you know something about America, do you have a life in Australia?
At least you are now telling the truth about the risks for our soldiers in Iraq and that cheap comparison to Vietnam. Everything goes down by it's own weight.
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