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NJSerious

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im not going to a club i was invited to tonight because i feel small, i hate this mindframe.............if im not 200 by february im slitting my wrists. time to order some supplements, hmm.....1-ad, creatine (even though all the times ive taken it have done nothing for me) and some more protein
 
creatine isn't worth shit. If your going to take that you might as well take that powermass3000 shit. I'm sure you can get info on better stuff to use from this board.
 
and you're giving yourself until february to hit 200 naturally?? good lord. i would start a strict diet of whole sticks of butter and chocodiles. it took me about a year and a half to put on 30 lbs and the majority of that weight was from newbie gains.
 
CYBERNIGG said:


Juicing might be your only option.
Fuck it. You don't need to be big bruh, your a fucking ninja.

yeah but i want to be a huge ninja bro, that way im super crazy and could whip anyones ass in the whole universe!!!! hi-ya!
 
32 pounds in 4 months? 8 pounds a month naturally?

uhhhhh... ok. It aint gonna be LBM.
 
You can do 32 pounds in 4 months. JUST EAT ANYTHING IN SITE! McD's, Pizza, Subs, Pussy, anything with a high amount of calories. Buy yourself a weight gainer like N Large and take some with every meal you eat!! You're gonna have to gain some fat to achieve that, even if you gave yourself 2 years you'd still gain some fat.
 
Use sergical steel blades to cut your wrists... they are made for that purpose and will give you a clean cut through and through.

C
 
Jetisin - did you get back down to a 28" waist? Obvioulsy that wasnt all LBM, so how much of that 35ish pounds do you think was LBM?
 
Jetisin said:
Actually that is exactly what happened to me.

I went from 160ish to about 195 in about 4-5 months. I ate everything in site including the kitchen sink and my neighbours.

All I can say about that way of doing things was that I could not wear anything without an elastic waist. My stomach went from 28ish to 34ish.

But on the positive side my friends were telling me I looked huge...I did get noticeably bigger. I still have the stretch marks to prove it.

I wonder if some of you guys know how to measure your waist. It is not your pants size. I know some guys that think they have a 34 inch waist because that's their pants size but their actually waist is closer to 40. Belly hanging over the pants. fatasses. A 34 inch waist isn't that big. Mike Tyson's waist was 34 in his prime and he was not fat.
 
NJ- I'm not trying to be a drug pusher, but why don't you try a nice low-dose 12 week cycle of Test? What are the specific reasons why you don't want to sauce? It seems your goal(of reaching 200lbs by spring)may be elusive otherwise.
 
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY said:
NJ- I'm not trying to be a drug pusher, but why don't you try a nice low-dose 12 week cycle of Test? What are the specific reasons why you don't want to sauce? It seems your goal(of reaching 200lbs by spring)may be elusive otherwise.

first of all, i've been working out hard for 7 months, and am 19 yrs old ive been told im too young and havent worked out long enough, and am afraid it would be hard to keep the gains i put on after the cycle, also i have no idea where to get it, how to do it, etc etc.....i have no idea about that shit...its beyond me.
 
first of all, i've been working out hard for 7 months, and am 19 yrs old ive been told im too young and havent worked out long enough, and am afraid it would be hard to keep the gains i put on after the cycle, also i have no idea where to get it, how to do it, etc etc.....i have no idea about that shit...its beyond me.

Makes sense to me....

But 200lbs. is one hell of a goal to shoot for(naturally) by feb...
GOOD LUCK BRO....
 
honestly 190-195 and i will be happy, thats more realistic, thats about 22-27 lbs in 5 months...........what do you all think about that 1-AD shit?
 
What is so magical about 200 pounds?

It's not going to turn you into something that you're not.

If you want to change the way people see you, start on the inside. That will get as much attention as any change you make on the outside.
 
big4life said:
What is so magical about 200 pounds?

It's not going to turn you into something that you're not.

If you want to change the way people see you, start on the inside. That will get as much attention as any change you make on the outside.

now why would you go and post something like that on a BODYBUILDING forum? that just deserves a ninja backhand right to the fucking face.
 
Do this ...

Work out..

One muscle group a day 5 x 5 with 8 - 10 rep sets Pyramid up on the wieghts.

Supps / food

400 grms of protien a day, 200 grms carbs 100 grmbs fats.

Use
Creatine monohydrate powder at 10 grms a day

5 in the morning
5 before you work out in juice

Evening take
Glutamine @ 5 grms
l-arginine @ 5 grms
l-ornathine @ 5 grms

400 mg of zin
400 mg of magnesium

Call me in february when you've gaines about 15 pounds.
 
Dont listen to wodin, hes got good genetics and doesnt know poop from poop.


Go to the Max-Ot website www.ast-ss.com and follow that shit to a T. Start squatting and deadlifting, no more machine BS as we talked about.

Since you're naturally an ecto at 19 plan out a 6 meal a day routine, 4 whole food and 2 shakes, 1 being your post workout shake. Aim for 4,500 calories as clean as possible, with a focus on protein, make sure you're eating about 200-220 grams a day.

Take creatine as stated but not with juice, juice doesnt illicit the proper insulin response for creatine uptake, does not help much with muscle glycogen replacement and citrus juices will destroy creatine. Take it with dextrose, buy some celltech or phosphagen if you can afford it for the sodium phosphate benefits as well.

Here is a good example of a daily meal plan for you:

Upon waking: 500-1000mg ALA, 1 serving phosphagen (bout 150 cals) 400 calories dextrose (very cheap), 60 grams of a quality whey protein.

Meal 2: 500-1000mg ALA, Your choice, make sure it has at least 40 grams of protein and a healthy dose of carbs. An example would be like 5-7 eggs, and some oatmeal, make it around 800 cals.

Meal 3: Postworkout meal, 1,000mg ALA, 600 cals honey or dextrose, 60 grams of protein, 2 servings of phosphagen*, 5 grams Vit C for cortisol control

Meal 4: 500-1000mg ALA, Your choice, make sure it has at least 40 grams of protein and a healthy dose of carbs.

Meal 5: 500-1000mg ALA, Your choice, make sure it has at least 40 grams of protein and a healthy dose of carbs.

Meal 6: Buy some flaxseed, flaxseed taken in large quanities is thought to be almost as powerful as nolvadex and acts similar, wil help supress estrogen and boost natural test levels. Eat 7 tablespoons which is roughly 600 cals, and eat 400 cals of cottage cheese, this is a very important meal, stick to it.

Milk with whey can be substituted for any of the meals except for meals 1, 3 and 6.

Get some cheap ala from iceman or someone else.

If you are responsible enough, use ginger root at every meal, 2x the dosage on the bottle, some people do not digest protein well.

Min 8, preferable 9-10 hours of sleep per day, preferable that you train in the early hours as to feed your body for the rest of the day postworkout. The phosphagen loading dose should be followed for 5 days then follow my phosphagen plan.

Other supplements should be multivitamin, 5 grams vit C postworkout, glutamine peptides from kilosports.com, ZMA

I would start like this and not use the 1-ad unti you hit a solid wall. You can make 200 lbs in I would say 5 months if you do this right.

Focus on squats as your primary leg exercise, at least 3 sets, deadlifts for back, 2-3 sets.

Good luck.
 
Friday night and I'm responding to this post, man I need a life.

Absolutely: squats, dead lifts, flax oil, natural peanut butter and your favorite ice cream.
 
Not the oil but the seed. The seed tastes 1000x better, has far, far more of the test boosting, estro kiling lignans, and has a good dose of fiber as well.
 
NJSerious said:


now why would you go and post something like that on a BODYBUILDING forum? that just deserves a ninja backhand right to the fucking face.


Sorry, you're right.



Just go stick a needle in your ass and that will change your whole world for you.:rolleyes:
 
I agree with Frack,

Bump your carb intake right up. You need to put on body mass and the quickest way to do that is by carbing (complex carbs). At 160 pounds the last thing you need to worry about is getting fat. Let your metabolism take care of the fat. Work on a 3 or 4 day split, heavy and basic compound stuff. 5-8 reps, no machines whatsoever, not even cables.

YOU MUST DEADLIFT. It is the most important exercise, even more so than squats imo.

Nutrition is vital, but what you do in the gym will make you or break you.

Eat like a tiger, train like a tiger, look like a tiger.

Eat like a tiger, train like a bird, look like a bird
 
Frack has some good advice. Don't listen to the people saying it is impossible. I gained over 18 pounds in six months even though I was swimming two miles each day. Without all that cardio, I could have gained more.

Keep that protein at 400 grams or higher. Use a quality LOW CARB protein mix so you don't put on a lot of fat.

Follow the workout that Wodin suggested, the old school one of 5x5. Use heavy weights with good form. Keep cardio to a minimum.

At 19, your body is primed in a natural environment to grow. This will be the best and most permanent gains you will ever make, don't erode them by using roids yet.
 
I'm 5'8" at 170 with about 7% bf.


I only weighed 145lbs 5 years ago. Yes, I'm natural. I could gain weight no problem, but most of it would be fat. The gains come slow but are worth it. Just eat as much clean food as you can and lift heavy on the 3 basic exercises. If you want to gain quickly then juice. If you don't want to use gear then it is unlikely you'll gain that much weight that quickly.

nb~lately I have been noticing my muscles are fuller when I lift heavier with lower reps.
 
I have good genetics, not great, I'm telling ya you have to be willing to put on a lil fat to get big. ***BURP***
 
I go up to 190-200 myself in the winters here every year. It seems to work, because when I diet down I have more muscle than before my bulking cycle.

Even when I go up in weight like that, I'm still one of the leanest peeps around. Bunch of fat fuckers around here! hehehe!
 
c-sharp minor said:
I go up to 190-200 myself in the winters here every year. It seems to work, because when I diet down I have more muscle than before my bulking cycle.

Even when I go up in weight like that, I'm still one of the leanest peeps around. Bunch of fat fuckers around here! hehehe!

I'm going to get fat and nasty for winter. Yes indeed.
 
Hey NJ, If I recall correctly, you were 160 not too long ago (when Anal was making fun of you) so if you've put on that 8lbs since then (around a month) then if you increase the food intake, I wouldn't be shoked if you could keep those gains up for another little while
200lbs wont be easy bro, especially by february, but hell, might as well give it a shot. I'm 180, and wouldn't mind hitting 200 by next summer too
 
Well just so I can feel proud of myself woody, here is my reasoning for telling him not to follow the routine you layed out.

First, 3200 calories is not going to cut it for this boy, by the time he reaches his goal that will be sub-maintence, he needs at least 4500 cals to grow, if he wants to grow fast. The ala and the relative clean nature of the calories will keep him lean enough.

He should have slightly more protein than I suggested though, but he does not want to substitute carbs for protein like that as an ectomorph. I'd say 350 is good.

The 5 sets of 5 reps is decent, but the max-ot program will give him the principles and knowledge to continue to grow, and grow.
 
I bet if he gets enough protein and basically eats everything else he can get his hands on and lifts hard and heavy, he'll grow. I'm not so sure that overwhelming a beginner with a shitload of info is really necessary. They're usually still trying to master the basics of compound movements and eating.
 
NJSerious said:
im not going to a club i was invited to tonight because i feel small, i hate this mindframe.............if im not 200 by february im slitting my wrists. time to order some supplements, hmm.....1-ad, creatine (even though all the times ive taken it have done nothing for me) and some more protein

dude -- this is some pretty bad muscle dysmorphia. might wanna consider seeing a shrink if muscle size is causing you stay isolated
 
Embrace your dysmorphia.....anyway, good point Jetsin, now REALLY dont listen to wodin, 8-10 is just simply not optimal for building maximum mass. 4-6 is good for an ecto.
 
I agree with frack about the reps. I do 5x5 for most core exercises. I am 190 and looking to get to 200 within the next 6 months. Your goals should be realistic or you wont achieve them. Not going out because you feel "small" is stupid, it dosen't matter how big you are in the grand scheme of things. Do you lift for other people or yourself?


By the way, I tried the MaxOT training routine but I overtrained in like two weeks on it. I switched back to my 4 day split. Works better for me.
 
whats good for the goose isnt necessarily good for the gander...

nj, i dont like you one bit, but... nobody here is gonna be able to tell you do this and that and you will accomplish your goals...

frackal seems to have grown a lot in knowledge the last 2 years but ya know what? if i recall he didnt start growing physically until he juiced... i could be wrong...

i dont grow unless i juice... my point? well, give yourself more time go gain the weight you want... but you gotta find out what works for you... try wodin's suggestion... try cornholio's old school work out.. try frackals diet... try licking pussy... etc... etc...
 
Listen NJ seriaaaaas -

The first cycle i did years ago, I weighed 180 and couldn't break through no matter what. I got six sustanons from mexico and used 1 every ten days. Nothing else. I put on 30 pounds an only lost 5 (water). My waist stayed at 30". A little goes a long way. Even if you have to drive to fucking Mexico, do it and get huge. You won't believe how many girls will be throwing themselves at you afterward. It's ridiculous.
 
Jimsbbc said:
Listen NJ seriaaaaas -

The first cycle i did years ago, I weighed 180 and couldn't break through no matter what. I got six sustanons from mexico and used 1 every ten days. Nothing else. I put on 30 pounds an only lost 5 (water). My waist stayed at 30". A little goes a long way. Even if you have to drive to fucking Mexico, do it and get huge. You won't believe how many girls will be throwing themselves at you afterward. It's ridiculous.

fuckin a, its comments like these that makes a ninja wanna juice. :mad:
 
Hey Bro' no way near enuff' time. However, 30 grams of creatine a day and in the neighborhood of 300-320 grams of GOOD protien/day will take you far. Cut out the carbs after 3 pm and the waist wont be hurt as bad either.
 
30 grams of protein a day???? u serious man? i heard you just piss out anything more then 5 anyways? am i misinformed with that?
 
NJ -


Hasn't anyone here helped you out yet? The bodybuildingextreme.com is a good site to learn things and find sources. Try it. All you need is a little test and maybe some deca, and you will be 205. As long as you keep working out you will keep it. One cycle never hurt anyone.
 
Jimsbbc said:
NJ -


Hasn't anyone here helped you out yet? The bodybuildingextreme.com is a good site to learn things and find sources. Try it. All you need is a little test and maybe some deca, and you will be 205. As long as you keep working out you will keep it. One cycle never hurt anyone.

nah bro, i have no idea.....nobody has ever. ill check out that site.............thanks....doubt ill go for it, but no prob getting informed on it.
 
gettinlarger said:


So, you're NJ Serious?

yea, i thought i would finally come back and ninja everyones ass!

i thought it was time i revealed my id. kinda getting bored of people not knowing.
 
SOFAJon...You're Huge Brother, Prophet Scream etc....

Stop That shit. 'Turd ball.
 
SOFAJon said:


yea, i thought i would finally come back and ninja everyones ass!

i thought it was time i revealed my id. kinda getting bored of people not knowing.


Dude, you're a poser!!! Any you're posing to be NJserious, that's pathetic!!! Do you know how pathetic that is? PATHETIC!!!
 
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