I'm afraid to come off again...

[iHulk]

I was gonna stay the course and run a quick 12 weeker and then roll off for a few months, go AAS free and get back to homeostasis but I just can't get myself to put the damm pins down.

I'm pretty much where I want to be:
225lbs
~6% BF

problem is I got way too much access/ supply of everything. I'm in peak condition and don't want to lose any gains. I finished my 12 weeks and am now on 15 weeks..

I just finished a week of hcg and aromasin (pseudo pct) but I continued to take mild doses of stanz ed, and approx 250mg/wk of t-e. Libido is thru the roof (lovin' that) and my nuts are back to normal size; got NO sides that I'm aware of... no blood work done since I'm still on anyway.

What to do?

 

[OMEGA]

my opinion wont help much =-)

 

[Bruce]

your gonna juice no matter what we tell you chief lol. stay on if you feel ok, i'd do blood work, but ive run 17 week cycles. what did you run

 

[Vascular Freak]

if your sex drive stays up i would run a nice pct maybe keep a little proviron in there and some igf and you will stay looking solid.....then take it to the next level next time round

BUT BRO INFORM ME....you say your libido is through the roof....is that because of the low dose test and hcg??? what were you running before that was causing it to decrease??? i am wondering because i may do the same for a month or two after tis primo run....i just want to stay conditioned for the summer with a banging sex drive....i think the primo and winstrol is hurting it a bit???

 

[Bruce]

i always rock out wit my cock out after a cycle as long as proviron is ran and i don't use deca. i have increased libido from eq proviron, primo proviron dbol, and when i ran tren proviron. i just tried cyp for the first time and i can tolerate it, i don't get sick at all. lovin it at 300mg ew with my primo and dbols. do bloodwork and take time off now that I really think about it. i would never advise you to do what i wouldn't. however it was only 12 weeks as mentioned, you administered hcg so you can extend to 20, i see no problem there. just come off and do time off when you should. hell run it thru the summer then come off

 

[iHulk]

if your sex drive stays up i would run a nice pct maybe keep a little proviron in there and some igf and you will stay looking solid.....then take it to the next level next time round

BUT BRO INFORM ME....you say your libido is through the roof....is that because of the low dose test and hcg??? what were you running before that was causing it to decrease??? i am wondering because i may do the same for a month or two after tis primo run....i just want to stay conditioned for the summer with a banging sex drive....i think the primo and winstrol is hurting it a bit???

My libido never decreased. Its been strong for a long time... been balancing my test/estro/prog very carefully and I think it has been near perfect. I got blood work done after an 8 month on-and-off again cycle last year and all was ok. So blood work in Jan. was good. Its been, what, 5 months and I've only been on this one cycle this year which was, like a I said gonna be short but I'm still going.

The cycle:
wk 1- 12 750mg T-e ew
wk 1-4 80mg Var ed
wk 5-10 75mg Tren ed
wk 8-12 60mg Stanz ed

wk 12-15 40mg stanz eod
wk 14-15 hcg 500 iu ed (1000 iu the first 2 days)

 

[zk7]

Hey ihulk, whats your Anti E like during that cycle?

Whats your Anti E or nolva protection like?

Waiting reply.

 

[iHulk]

i always rock out wit my cock out after a cycle as long as proviron is ran and i don't use deca. i have increased libido from eq proviron, primo proviron dbol, and when i ran tren proviron. i just tried cyp for the first time and i can tolerate it, i don't get sick at all. lovin it at 300mg ew with my primo and dbols. do bloodwork and take time off now that I really think about it. i would never advise you to do what i wouldn't. however it was only 12 weeks as mentioned, you administered hcg so you can extend to 20, i see no problem there. just come off and do time off when you should. hell run it thru the summer then come off

was thinking of taking it to the end of June and then run a thorough PCT and be out.

That sound reasonable (or as reasonable as us juice heads can be)?? (ha-ha)

 

[Bruce]

i mean that is hefty i would lay off the stanz for a bit as it will really thrash your cholesterol. tren can too. stay on test and tren in my opinion. run it for a bit more you haven' t lost libido and did not do full on pct so you are good to go

 

[jokerswild]

get some blood work done just to make sure your no stressing your liver and kidneys too much, if all is well I say keep running your low dose stuff and hcg, for a few months prob wouldn't hurt...

 

[iHulk]

Hey ihulk, whats your Anti E like during that cycle?

Whats your Anti E or nolva protection like?

Waiting reply.

Didn't run any SERMS during cycle... I'll prob run Nolv at 40/20 mg when I doa thorough PCT. I only ran Aromasin at like 10mg ed - every other week.

 

[iHulk]

i mean that is hefty i would lay off the stanz for a bit as it will really thrash your cholesterol. tren can too. stay on test and tren in my opinion. run it for a bit more you haven' t lost libido and did not do full on pct so you are good to go

I'm gonna finish the bottle of stanz this week and then kill that noise.. I was thinking of doing just what u mentioned: staying on the low dose T-e and 100mg eod Tren until 3rd week of June and then busting into a full blown PCT.

My libido is still high so I won't add the mesterolone (proviron) maybe keep it for next cycle.

 

[Bruce]

yea that is what i do, i dont' really take 50mg of pro-v ed. i take as needed, amazingly even on tren 37.5mg ed i didn't need pro-v much at all. on my eq 800mg ew cycle i never really used it much. my libido rocks with gear. deca fucked me up bad thats the only one. i had no pro-v at that time

 

[Vascular Freak]

My libido never decreased. Its been strong for a long time... been balancing my test/estro/prog very carefully and I think it has been near perfect. I got blood work done after an 8 month on-and-off again cycle last year and all was ok. So blood work in Jan. was good. Its been, what, 5 months and I've only been on this one cycle this year which was, like a I said gonna be short but I'm still going.

The cycle:
wk 1- 12 750mg T-e ew
wk 1-4 80mg Var ed
wk 5-10 75mg Tren ed
wk 8-12 60mg Stanz ed

wk 12-15 40mg stanz eod
wk 14-15 hcg 500 iu ed (1000 iu the first 2 days)

thats a boy...i am luvin what you did from wk 12-15....that is EXACTLY what i do every time.....i run the winstrol with hcg and the synergy between the two is unreal....plus when your drop the hcg and winny you are "clean" in a few days and can start pct....good shit bro...cycle looks good to!!!


what are your final opinions on the tren? did it do what you wanted all the way through or did gains stall sides increase etc??? post some pics bro your were looking like a specimen backa month ago

 

[Vascular Freak]

i mean that is hefty i would lay off the stanz for a bit as it will really thrash your cholesterol. tren can too. stay on test and tren in my opinion. run it for a bit more you haven' t lost libido and did not do full on pct so you are good to go

i agree with bruce on this.....if your already "kind of" where you want to be...not that we're ever satisfied BUT....just me...i would run light test with some primo...maybe 300mg test with 500mg primo.....avoid var and any other orals....stay away from winstrol/tren and all that.....primo is light on the body and will fine tune what you have right now...i was running test/tren/mast at 150mg/100mg//150mg eod and switched to 100mg prop/200mg primo eod and i am luving the way things are progressing.....the primo is REALLY dialing things in...its not the mass/strength monster that tren is BUT it just gives you this sick look, vascualrity and fullness is sick!!! just my 02....but i wouldn't worry bout staying on for a little longer...run it till july then start pct hardcore!!

 

[iHulk]

thats a boy...i am luvin what you did from wk 12-15....that is EXACTLY what i do every time.....i run the winstrol with hcg and the synergy between the two is unreal....plus when your drop the hcg and winny you are "clean" in a few days and can start pct....good shit bro...cycle looks good to!!!


what are your final opinions on the tren? did it do what you wanted all the way through or did gains stall sides increase etc??? post some pics bro your were looking like a specimen backa month ago

lol! alright I'll get some pics up ... maybe that will motivate me to come back here more often than I have... been slackin on EF.

As for the syngery between stanz and hcg, definitely the best way to end almost any cycle. And you're right, its unreal. You stay in an anabolic state but rebound your HPTA and still maintain hardness and strength.. its way under rated.


Tren for me was pretty amazing this time. It gave me exactly what I was looking for in the 5 weeks of it but the sides started to get annoying around week 4. After week 4 you become a different person. Agitated at the split of a second, a bit restless at night, some night sweats but when you look in the mirror you're like; "awe fuck it, I'm ripped" hahahaha

 

[iHulk]

oh shit I forgot to add one big thing I did for 4 weeks during my cycle:.

I took 2 weeks on and 1 week off and 2 weeks on again of Albuterol. Took it during the Tren stage. That plus Tren is what took my body too an unreal low bf%!! It was under 6% for a few weeks but I was just too hungry to sustain that ridiculous leaness....

Albuterol is great for anybody wanting to really cut that mid section and get those veiny abs going... but it won't last.

 

[muscleup]

Just stay on...LOL

 

[jmead]

i think this thread has convinced me to run short 6-8 week cycles from now on, time off is less and i can get back on sooner haha..

run my igf cycle and give it 2 more weeks and im ready to hop back on..

im saying this as im running another 16-18 weeker.. haha

 

[Vascular Freak]

i think this thread has convinced me to run short 6-8 week cycles from now on, time off is less and i can get back on sooner haha..

run my igf cycle and give it 2 more weeks and im ready to hop back on..

im saying this as im running another 16-18 weeker.. haha

juice head!! j/k

 

[iHulk]

i think this thread has convinced me to run short 6-8 week cycles from now on, time off is less and i can get back on sooner haha..

run my igf cycle and give it 2 more weeks and im ready to hop back on..

im saying this as im running another 16-18 weeker.. haha

thats the benefit of short efficient cycles.. easy to recover and less time off...
Last year I was on 8 outta 12 months

 

[jumpshot]

my nigga

I need to come around here mo often. I'm gettin riled up reading this shit, makin me wanna hit it hard again. Been drinkin and fuckin too much lately.

 

[iHulk]

my nigga

I need to come around here mo often. I'm gettin riled up reading this shit, makin me wanna hit it hard again. Been drinkin and fuckin too much lately.

HOLY SHIT!!! Outta the darkness. Jumpshot is back on EF. Stop the presses.
Waz Happenin' homeieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
Its all good bro. I'll get ya motivated again.

So u've been off the board for a while. Lots of drama since you left.

 

[bigmodean]

The sooner you finish,the sooner you can start your next cycle!

 

[paradox]

why not take a month off periocally, & run PCT, with HGH & IGF-1?

 

[jmead]

you wont even recover in that short month your off if you just ran a 20weeker.. it will take 2-3 weeks just for the esters to clear.. so your talkin 2 months minimum to run a decent pct.. thats too long for most folks i guess haha, i took 9 weeks off, it was hard..

 

[jumpshot]

For me, my last run fucked my libido up. HCG/nolva didn't do it. I was out of the game for a while. One of the reason's I didn't come here, didn't need the temptation lol. Well that and the back injury from tryin to pretend I was a wide-receiver again lol. The ground seems harder the older I get.

Anyway, reevaluating cycles/pct's as what worked for you (hulk) didn't work for me. For some reason that cyc we did shut me down hard. Maybe it was the primo with no test base. I thought the mest(prov) would keep it moving, but no game, I've got this smoking hot bitch here and I didn't want to fuck. Do you know what that's like??? Ain't fun.

 

[jmead]

ouch, that hurts, cialis viagra or those superman pills can be your best friend

hell my libido is through the roof and i still like them haha