If your using L-dex you better get your blood work done ASAP

[ryker77]

Ok I'll start with a breif intro. 5'9" 185lbs(down from 205 due to a hernia op) early 20's. Four previous cycles 3 with tren. This was the first time with deca.

June 30 400mgs Ttokkyo cyp 300mgs Ttokkyo Deca
May 03 200mgs cyp and started L-dex 5drops ED
May 07 200mgs cyp 300mgs Deca
May 10 200mgs cyp
May 14 200mgs cyp 300mgs Deca
May 17 200mgs cyp
May 21 200mgs cyp 300mgs Deca
May 24 175mgs all that was left in the vial cyp
May 28 200mgs cyp 300mgs Deca


June 01 had complete blood work done. My HGB was 17.2 normal 14.0-17.0mg/dl
CL was 98 normal 99-109mmol/L
Glucose was 68 normal 70-109mg/dl
Alk phos was 137 normal 50-136u/l
Triglyycerides 236 normal 30-200 mg/dl But this is down from 400 at the end of a tren cycle. The doctor was shitting when he saw how high it was....
HDL 24 normal 32-72 mg/dl I'm trying to bring this up any ideals?
Chol/HDL ratio 4.92 which puts me at 2x the risk for heart probs

The importants parts now..
Progesterone >0.4 normal is 0.03-0.60ng/ml which shows that in my body I can safley handle 300mgs per week.
Testosterorne free 101.1 normal is 12.4-40.0pg.ml
Testosterone total 2091 normal is 262-1593ng/dl

The bad part...

Estrogen 723.2 Normal for an adult male is 40.0-115.0pg/ml WTF
I can only think of two things--- I have bogus L-dex. Which probably isn't so. Or that amridex in an liquid from isn't being delivered to the blood stream in an effective way. 5 drops from and 18 gauge pin is 1/8 to 1/4ml or .25mgs to .5mgs. So I would think that .5mgs ED is enough to handle 400mgs of cyp per week.

Any ideals????????????

I'm goining to increase the l-dex to 7 drops on an empty stomach ED and have my estrogen rechecked on the 1st. I'll keep you'll posted.

 

[muscleup]

BIG BUMP...I want to hear more on this....as I'm on l-dex right now...

 

[Xtreme2001]

Estrogen 723.2 Normal for an adult male is 40.0-115.0pg/ml

WOW..

Huck will answer shortly.. Give him time

I'll bump it for ya.

 

[gearedup50]

Well you must have bad liquidex because suspended in liquid or a tab form will make no difference! It has tested out at what it is said to be!

Also how many guys do you know that get bloat or side effects (gyno) while on liquidex?

 

[DaIronFist2]

did u get your ldex from a reliable source?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

LOL,doesn't sound like 5 drops cut it bro.You may have some very aggressive aromitase production that may require slightly higher amounts than most of us are accustomed to for anti-aromatic compounds.Continue taking the L-dex and get your bloodwork re-ran as scheduled.

 

[Big Moose]

.5mg wouldn't do shit for me with even 250 mg week of test. It depends on the person. Also, maybe your deca wasn't really deca. Just a thought. Or, you may have gotten fake l-dex.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

BTW,you weren't running clomid or nolvadex around the time of testing were you?

 

[ryker77]

No clomid or nolvadex at the time of testing. Nor was I taking any ZMA or pro hormones.

Yes it was a reliable source..... Or at least a reliable MOD gave me his addy.

And I'm pretty sure my deca is deca since its made by Ttokkyo and the box and labe all mathes. Plus the increase in pregesterone.

I had to stop taking l-dex for the last 15 days and used nolvadex instead 20mgs ED. My nipples did appear to be puffy and somewhat sore if touched. But I'm back on l-dex now.


Thanks for the quick reply, Huck..

 

[ryker77]

Or maybe he shouldn't be using Deca ... that shit made me a nice A cup.

I fucking hate that stuff.

FH

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No the deca is fine. My progesterone levels are still in the normal range.