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I tried it.......it hurts !!

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I took some ttokkyo cyp last night as it was the first injection of my super cycle. I wanted to experiment a little so I put 1 cc in the left thigh, and 1 cc along with 1 cc of eq in the right. Today, left side is exreamly painful and right is sore, but not to the extream of the left side. I feel like I have the sus flu and it sucks !
I have lot. # 025 feb 2003
 
strange the procedure i had on it is suddenly missing!!!!!!RADAR
 
Ok what is the procedure?

I'm having the same problem with t-400-primo shots, so sore today, had to skip the gym, and my injections were on Sunday.

3cc in each glute.

800mg t-400+ 100mg primo=3cc
300mg primo=3cc

The primo side hurts worst then the t-400, which I ran under hot water for 30 seconds.
 
solidspine said:
Ok what is the procedure?

I'm having the same problem with t-400-primo shots, so sore today, had to skip the gym, and my injections were on Sunday.

3cc in each glute.

800mg t-400+ 100mg primo=3cc
300mg primo=3cc

The primo side hurts worst then the t-400, which I ran under hot water for 30 seconds.
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in-situ removal of benzyl alcohol
 
andy?

andy dosent this procedure eliminate the reason for having the alcahol in the first place, to concentrate the active ingrediant, if so you are defeating the purpose of the high concentration AS in the first place. (please insert normal nonoffensive tone of voice here) If i wanted to do that id buy norandren 50 instead of norandren 200 this is an exageration but 1 cc of 50 mg/cc plus 1 cc of 250 mg/cc = 150 mg/cc.

then again the one time i used a sustenon rediject it really hurt.
and i do not want necrosis of muscular tissue in my glute (im caucasion and cant afford to lose any size)

i read a thread saying to run hot water over the syringe to evaporate the BA will this work?
 
let me clarify the hot water BA removal.

draw the 1cc in a 3cc dart and draw back all the way with air heat and plunge out the vapor repeat a couple a times.

now do i run the risk of percipitation or not. when i read people bake thier juice to sterillize i figgured the heat wouldnt hurt so how long would the abscence of BA start ot figure in.

hey andy wat u think
 
Lot 041 Exp May 03 produced the same results in my workout partner. Right down to the flu symptoms.

Andy, doesn't removing the alcohol remove some of the test as well? I know that the test ester is soluble only in a non-polar liquid, but wouldn't the alcohol make it soluble enough to the point that some would be lost in the wash? I'm thinking a mild alcohol and h20 solution would most definately act as a solvent, though the affinity may be low.
 
Damn well I just got some cyp. this last weekend lot number 075 exp 2003. Compared to you guys is I have the more newer ones but dont they still use the same amount of alcohol? Will see how it goes.

Also mixing it with the EQ should really help easy the pain.
 
I'm gonna go get me sum next wk (straight from the vet) - can anyone tell me which lots are NOT painful?
 
I just finished my Ttokkyo Cyp and Ttokkyo Deca and it did not hurt. I was a little sore the next day but after that I was fine. Nothing compared to Sust. That Cyp was a cake walk.
 
Im gettin the ttokoyo testanon 250.. I got a feeling im gonna sqeel like a little school girl.. And yup its gonna be my first time ever.. lol.. DAMN!!!!!!
 
Day 2, still sick..........Shit, I have taken sus ed for 28 days and never felt like this. Now I have a fever and headaches to go along with the aches.
 
Big Johnson said:
Lot 041 Exp May 03 produced the same results in my workout partner. Right down to the flu symptoms.

Andy, doesn't removing the alcohol remove some of the test as well? I know that the test ester is soluble only in a non-polar liquid, but wouldn't the alcohol make it soluble enough to the point that some would be lost in the wash? I'm thinking a mild alcohol and h20 solution would most definately act as a solvent, though the affinity may be low.
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Steroids are very lipophilic-- it will stay with the oil. There is only a small volume of alcohol realitive to the volume of water, so the overall polarity of the alcohol/water solution will be remain high. My bet is that virtually NONE of the steroid will get washed out with the water/alcohol solution since the steroid would much rather hold hands with the oil than the water.

The amount of extra oil that will need to be added will vary depending on the concentration of the steroid.

Andy
 
Re: andy?

acneman said:
andy dosent this procedure eliminate the reason for having the alcahol in the first place, to concentrate the active ingrediant, if so you are defeating the purpose of the high concentration AS in the first place. (please insert normal nonoffensive tone of voice here) If i wanted to do that id buy norandren 50 instead of norandren 200 this is an exageration but 1 cc of 50 mg/cc plus 1 cc of 250 mg/cc = 150 mg/cc.

i read a thread saying to run hot water over the syringe to evaporate the BA will this work?
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Does diluting the AAS solution defeat the purpose of having a high concentrated steroid? Actually, I think that having such a high concentrated steroid defeats the purpose (somewhat) of having an ester!

The more concentrated the steroid, the faster it diffuses out of the oil. ANd when you inject a steroid solution made with BA, water in your body sweeps away the alcohol, leaving a super saturated steroid solution and/or precipitated steroid. This steroid can "go into" cell lipids or it can get spewed right into the blood stream to be de-esterified. This fucks up the release rate some. The lesser concentrated ester gives rise to more predictable release rates.

You will not be able to evaporate the BA by running the syringe under hot water.
 
At what temp do you think you can evaporate the BA. Im getting pain from my fina and im thinking about baking it at 250 degrees for 15min to try an evaporate the BA.
 
I had the same problem with the Tokkyyo Cyp. I mixed in an 1.5cc of EQ to go with my 1.5cc of cyp and the pain ceased. Mix EQ or deca with it and you will be fine without boiling or heating anything. Saved me a bunch of time each injection.
 
I injected 250 enanthate in each thigh last night and am sore too. When I inject in my glutes, I hardly ever feel any soreness afterwards. Wait, one exception, Primo burns quite a bit afterwards - much more than Test or Deca.

ebear
 
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