I swear by maltodextrin for post workout !

[MS]

I hear ya The Dude. Seems George is desperate for mods these days.

Of course the kid got better results with dextrose than high fructose foods. This is neither revelationary or new news. DUH. The questions we should all be asking are 1) why has he been pushing honey PW for so long inspite of the overwhelming evidence that it isn't nearly as good at refilling muscle glycogen: and 2) How will his pancreas feel about this new "discovery" of his in 25 years time?

Good luck blood drinker.

 

[Hoffmeister]

MS, you brought up something that's sort of been tickling at the back of my brain.

During the week, my diet is very clean on carbs. About 250 grams/day, almost all from oatmeal, whole bread brown rice, etc.

Weekends are a different story. I go through a bag of jelly beans, Spree, and some other hi-GI, no fat stuff.

This has worked great for fat loss, and seems to be working well for adding some mass now, too (really, too soon to tell on that yet).

But am I screwing myself with this? I know at times I get kind of zoned out on the weekends. Just wanted your thoughts.

 

[cozmokramer]

bump

 

[marvelous_mark]

I have been taking maltodextrin with my post-workout shakes for over a year now and I have gotten great results. I am a hi-carb freak when it comes to post-workout shakes. Right now, I weigh 229 pounds I take between 120 grams to 140 grams of carbohydrates in my shake with 2 to 3 scoops of whey protein. I have been doing this for a long time now blood_drinker and like you, I swear by it too.

I have to offer this little bit of advice tough, always drink your maltodextrin shake slowly especially if it's hi-carb. Drinking it fast will proceed to make you feel sick, , Unfortunately, I speak by experience I haven't vomited from that but I have felt real full

 

[blood_drinker]

I know it`s nothing revolutionary MS. But he asked if I had ever done some experimenting, and I simply answered, yes I did and I showed him what I did. I never claimed it to be a discovery , wtf.

And to answer your question, I have only tried honey for 2 weeks and did not like it for many reasons - mainly because it did not even matchup to the effects of maltodextri (thus the scientific studies and plus, i cannot bear 5 tbsp a day every day PW). What makes you think I rely on honey PW? never said i did?

 

[blood_drinker]

And what might not be revolutionary is in fact something good to be pointed out to many. Look at the recent diets- still many rely on honey/grape juice, even potatoes with tuna for PW. Saying I got great results for maltodextrin is yet more proof that it works- not claiming to be a breakthrough or anything - Im just sharing my results. I think it's your turn for the chill pill now.

 

[MS]

OK I've chilled (and edited my above post-blame it on PMS).
Hoffmeister-I can't comment on the LOOOOONG term consequences of carbing out on the weekends, but I can assure you that eating lots of sweet (low fat) junk on the weekends is one of the better ways to keep you metabolism from stalling on any type of calorie restricted diet. This is the basis of CKD, but it works well on more traditional BB diets too. Keeping the fat intake low is the key to making it work. And I suspect that keeping the fat low during a carb spree may also offer some protection against developing insulin resistance. From that point of view a high GI PW carb drink prolly won't cause any long term damage either. It's just that no one's done any studies along those lines so all we can do is speculate.

 

[Hoffmeister]

Thanks for the response, MS.

I can't argue in any way with the results so far. Just the way you made the comment about the pancreas made me stop and think.

 

[ColumboWeiser]

Great post...I think I will try it...what do you guys think if I took 10units of slin before drinking the protein and dextrose?

 

[MS]

Oops...seems I can't edit my posts if they were made more thn 1440 minutes ago!?

Anyway ColumboWeiser, as I'm sure you may have an inkling, many bodybuilders now use insulin post workout to help push nutrients into their muscles. As far as I have been able to ascertain this is mainly related to 1) the use of very large quantities of AS: 2) the use of hGH: 3) the use of high fat/high carb bulking diets.

All of the above increase insulin resistance and therefore folks that indulge in any of the above seem to benefit a great deal from uing Sub Q insulin. "Normal" people with good insulin senstivity do not really need to resort to taking extra insulin to make good gains.