I'm gonna go on the record and say out of all the products I have tried since coming to EF this is the single best one, simply because I use them everyday and they always give me a lil edge when I need it.. They don't make you big or strong like some of the other stuff, but 34/7/365 if ya need em they do the job. Thanks CEO. And for the two or three of you 1/2 faggots that actually work out , try one or two preworkout. Good shit