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I should have kept my mouth shut

DIVISION said:
I thought Deca shut kids down worse than Tren.....

BabyTitan......preach the truth! :o




DIV
i dont think so nigga.. the reason deca may be a 'harder shut down' to some is because deca is run for a longer time, meaning you are shut down longer and may have a harder recovery.
but if they are run about the same time, i've always heard that tren is the hardest shut down ....
 
Damn thats pretty bad I was 140lbs when I was 13 years old lol!!! See when you give someone gear with only working out for about few months even a year and they take gear they think the only way to grow is by using gear and thats totally wrong. I just did my first cycle ever at age 22 and I started at 235lbs with 14% body fat naturally I already looked like I did juice!! because I train naturally since age of 13. But I would tell your friend the truth and if he go ahead and does himself let him live and learn!. This is the type of attitude that has gotten the media to blow up steroid talk and all these non sense
Kids like your friend1



sherpa1 said:
I had a friend like that. He couldnt even bench his own body weight "140", and wanted to run a cycle. I told him not to for a while, and he went ahead and got some overpriced dbol from a guy at my gym. He ran 30 to 35mg/day on off days and 40 to 50mg/ day on days that he worked out. He ran this for 6 weeks. I gave him some nolva for pct. The guy who sold him the dbol didnt mention it.

Overall it worked out pretty well. He got his diet down, stopped drinking so much, gained alot of confidence in and out of the gym. He gained 17.2 pounds before pct. He's kept about 13 of it so far. Stregnth improved alot. His rep weight is now more than he weighs, and his max bench is up about 50 pounds.

I really think that it helped him get on track. He was slacking, not eating right and getting depressed before he took anything. Now he's happy He doesnt look like a little girl anymore.
 
LVTitan said:
i dont think so nigga.. the reason deca may be a 'harder shut down' to some is because deca is run for a longer time, meaning you are shut down longer and may have a harder recovery.
but if they are run about the same time, i've always heard that tren is the hardest shut down ....

I'll take your word, babyTita....

Haven't run Tren yet.....but it sounds like a nice rough drug.....something that will keep me focused and raw.

How long have you run it and what did you think about it?




DIV
 
Fill some empty vials with regular sterilized seed oil. Then let him go at it. I'm telling you he will gain about 10 pounds. I hate to admit it but I've seen it happen before.
 
looks like its going to be one of thoses live and learn journeys for him ,Ive told him about pct and how important it is and if he uses orals to take milk thistle but other than that I cant do anything else .theres no changing his mind,Ive even told him he could die but he dosent belive me (yes I have some fucked up mates :p )cheers to those who have given there views ,most of wihch are the same as my own he should not do it.I had to see if there was a some way to go about it but it seems not and the uk is a touch far for division to travel to try his methods of talking him to sense ;)
 
Watson said:
Fill some empty vials with regular sterilized seed oil. Then let him go at it. I'm telling you he will gain about 10 pounds. I hate to admit it but I've seen it happen before.

i was just about to say the same thing!!! order some sterile oil and give it to him in one of your vials...he'll have a blast on
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DIVISION said:
I'll take your word, babyTita....

Haven't run Tren yet.....but it sounds like a nice rough drug.....something that will keep me focused and raw.

How long have you run it and what did you think about it?




DIV
i have not run it yet myself my new lab owner friend. i was thinking of doing a cycle of tren and nuggabol next... :)

but seriously , i have studied a lot but have not used tren yet, since it is very androgenic i am going to wait till an accutane cycle because i am afraid it will make my back/arms break out since test and primo do that to me...
 
LVTitan said:
i have not run it yet myself my new lab owner friend. i was thinking of doing a cycle of tren and nuggabol next... :)

but seriously , i have studied a lot but have not used tren yet, since it is very androgenic i am going to wait till an accutane cycle because i am afraid it will make my back/arms break out since test and primo do that to me...

You know what you might want to try are those prescription strength acne scrubs. I get acne on my shoulders when I'm on cycle and my doc prescribed that, just put it on before a shower and scrub it off.....use it twice daily.



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