I read a book once.....

[needsize]

It was about race car driving, and although I've never been behind the wheel of a race car, I feel that I have now gained enough knowlege to hit a nascar race and tell the drivers what they are doing wrong, think any of the know-it-all teenagers around here would like to come with me?

 

[strong island]

hmmm....I wonder who you are talking about???


Ah Hah...I got it!

Hey needsize...I discovered an amazing feature.

Use the ignore feature under user options.

It really helps. That kid was pissing me off.

 

[needsize]

I haven't tried ignore yet, but there is more than one of that type around here. I've even found him mentioning on that chat board the arguement he had over here with the big meanies.

 

[gettinlarger]

i have an idea ... but who exactly are you speaking of ...

 

[bignate73]

big meanies.

<-----wrote the book on how to be a big meanie.

 

[needsize]

i have an idea ... but who exactly are you speaking of ...

lumbuss and zulu come to mind, especially lumbuss

 

[Manu]

It was about race car driving, and although I've never been behind the wheel of a race car, I feel that I have now gained enough knowlege to hit a nascar race and tell the drivers what they are doing wrong, think any of the know-it-all teenagers around here would like to come with me?

 

[b fold the truth]

I haven't ignored anyone yet. I figure that they might have something to say that I might actually need to hear...even the youngest newbie to lifting...

B True

 

[argent]

It was about race car driving, and although I've never been behind the wheel of a race car, I feel that I have now gained enough knowlege to hit a nascar race and tell the drivers what they are doing wrong, think any of the know-it-all teenagers around here would like to come with me?

Hahahah. Funny shit.

 

[Vortexx]

Can i borrow your book ?

i want to do PARIS_DAKAR rally this summer and i feel that by reading your book combined with my superior intelligence i have a solid base to make it to the top three!!!

 

[needsize]

Can i borrow your book ?

i want to do PARIS_DAKAR rally this summer and i feel that by reading your book combined with my superior intelligence i have a solid base to make it to the top three!!!

No way, I feel I am and should I be the only expert.....

 

[ZZuluZ]

*sigh*

Who would you chose to construct a building:

A man with an engineering degree or a construction worker?

Who would you pick as your doctor?

A midwife with plenty of experience or a man with a degree in biology?

What about a lawyer?

A man with a degree from Harvord or a crappy lawyer whose done hundreds of cheap cases?

Your analogy is extremely weak. I hope you the intelligence to realize as such. Your persistent belittling of others is a reflection on yourself not those you belittle.

-Zulu

 

[needsize]

*sigh*

Who would you chose to construct a building:

A man with an engineering degree or a construction worker?

Who would you pick as your doctor?

A midwife with plenty of experience or a man with a degree in biology?

What about a lawyer?

A man with a degree from Harvord or a crappy lawyer whose done hundreds of cheap cases?

Your analogy is extremely weak. I hope you the intelligence to realize as such. Your persistent belittling of others is a reflection on yourself not those you belittle.

-Zulu

don't persistently belittle anyone asswipe, but frankly you are really starting to annoy me. My analogy is right on, yours however is way off. Or are you comparing yourself to the harvard lawyer, the guy with the degree in biology, etc, sorry but no comparison. You are a 16 year old with basically no training experience, but however you have read stuff, so that makes you expert enough to be doling out training advice to others. There is no way you have read or studied as much as the long time veterans on this board, but they still don't come across with the know it all attitude you and some of the other kids have.

Trying to take a shot at my intelligence is beyond pathetic KID, if it were worth it, I'd post copies of the honours degrees that I have earned. I never said a negative word about anyone on this board until you and the other CHILD came onto that thread talking like you had some idea of what the hell you were talking about. The thread was started more towards lumbuss, but you are still a punk kid that uses big words trying to impress the adults around here.

I can't wait till school is back in and guys that actually work out can share information around here

 

[ZZuluZ]

' don't persistently belittle anyone asswipe, but frankly you are really starting to annoy me."

Oh, I feel the same way.

"My analogy is right on, yours however is way off. Or are you comparing yourself to the harvard lawyer, the guy with the degree in biology, etc, sorry but no comparison. "

It might help that you not take the literal interpretations in certain analogies. Understanding the basic idea might help somewhat in that respect.

"ou are a 16 year old with basically no training experience, but however you have read stuff, so that makes you expert enough to be doling out training advice to others."

Correct. My advice is probably better than yours, matter of fact.

"There is no way you have read or studied as much as the long time veterans on this board, but they still don't come across with the know it all attitude you and some of the other kids have. "

You've sort of imposed a status of omniscience above my head which I never stated. You enjoy putting words into my mouth. I'm quite modest about what I know. And I was quite respectul until you repeatedly went on your little diatribe.

" Trying to take a shot at my intelligence is beyond pathetic KID, if it were worth it, I'd post copies of the honours degrees that I have earned."

Go ahead.

"never said a negative word about anyone on this board until you and the other CHILD came onto that thread talking like you had some idea of what the hell you were talking about. The thread was started more towards lumbuss, but you are still a punk kid that uses big words trying to impress the adults around here.

I can't wait till school is back in and guys that actually work out can share information around here"

You have insulted me many times. You can't expect me not to respond to your perpetual insults.

Maybe if you had an ounce of respect for fellow lifters there wouldn't be any problems.

Need I remind you that it is YOU who has made jabs at me in the past and now once again.

-Zulu

 

[needsize]

Funny how you are the only one around here, other than lumbuss who feels that way about me. The fact that you honestly think you know more about training than me, well then I guess you definitely were one of the reasons I started this thread. I can't believe I'm actually letting myself get into this with you, but I would love to see if there are ANY members on here who agree with that statement. As far as me not having an ounce of respect for fellow lifters, again it's funny how the little kid trying to use the big words is the only one that feels that way about me, every statement I make on here is positive and supportive towards the other members.
Anyway, I have stuff to do, put me on ignore if I bother you that much.

 

[ZZuluZ]

"Funny how you are the only one around here, other than lumbuss who feels that way about me. "

Glad you enjoy the popularity contest on this board.

"he fact that you honestly think you know more about training than me, well then I guess you definitely were one of the reasons I started this thread."

So you prevoke me knowing that I'll respond negatively and this somehow justifies it? How.....clever.

" can't believe I'm actually letting myself get into this with you, but I would love to see if there are ANY members on here who agree with that statement."

Irrelevant. Ask a respected member with a PhD, and we've got a deal.

"Anyway, I have stuff to do, put me on ignore if I bother you that much."

You don't bother me. You obviously have a great deal of experience and lots to contribute. Do you seriously expect me to congratulate you after you make an entire thread for the purposes of flaming me??

Maybe if you'd accepted that maybe some of my advice is valid instead of insulting me we would have gotten along.

-Zulu

 

[gettinlarger]

*sigh*

Who would you chose to construct a building:


Your analogy is extremely weak. I hope you the intelligence to realize as such.


-Zulu

"Choose," not chose.

And I believe the word "have" should have been inserted there ...

Don't mean to be a dick, but I was an excellent English student. I've learned a lot. I am well educated. That must make me the smartest man alive, by your logic.

Dude, how does that feel? I did not want to intrude on another's argument, but seriously, man ... I honestly want to know ... Where do you get your knowledge of training? I don't want to be an asshole to you, or anyone. I want to learn as much as I can about this sport, and share whatever I have with others. I get my knowledge from reading and training. Where does yours come from? All I've ever heard are your physiological factoids. I'm being serious now. I'm curious. Post your stats, goals, etc. I want to see if you're true to lifting, and not some punk who thinks he knows it all.

Needsize, I apologize for all this crap man. From what I read on here, you're a good dude who knows a lot about this stuff.

 

[ZZuluZ]

Thank you for the corrections; my English isn't perfect when written at 80 words per minute. It's also my third language.

In any case, I have nothing against needsize. I have a problem with the insults made at my expense. Surely this is understandable...

"I am well educated. That must make me the smartest man alive, by your logic. "

It is important to differentiate between knowledge and intelligence. They're not synonymous... which isn't to say that you're on or the other. I don't know you.

"I honestly want to know ... Where do you get your knowledge of training?"

Well, I read everything I can get my hands on and try to learn as much from the experts as I can.

"I don't want to be an asshole to you, or anyone. I want to learn as much as I can about this sport, and share whatever I have with others. I get my knowledge from reading and training."

Then I guess we've got the same goals.

"Where does yours come from?"

Reading, experience, talking to the experts. I don't trust anecdotal evidence or my own experience yet; maybe when I'm an advanced lifter.

" Post your stats, goals, etc. I want to see if you're true to lifting, and not some punk who thinks he knows it all. "

What kind of stats?

Goals:

Bench 300
Squat 400 [box squat, that is]
Deadlift 500

I also like staying in shape. Which is why I include GPP, stretching, cardio, and recuperation in various forms.

-Zulu

 

[Thaibox]

I know Zulu may have some potential to contribute to this board someday(read again...someday), but the bullshit drama he brings and immature sophistic attitude he has outweighs anything helpful he may have to say(which isn't fucking much).

I'm tired of his shit. This board has always been great about having little to no bullshit. Now with Zulu and Dumbass its like kindergarden time in the chat room. Yes, we are all sorry that you've had your ass beat your whole life, but take your bullshit somewhere else. Stop acting like you are an intellectual superior. You are a high school turd. Nothing else. The more you talk, the more clear this becomes. We all know that you've never touched touched a weight, or a woman. Maybe thats it. You probably just need to get laid. We all know that no real woman will touch you, so go get a hooker, maybe she'll bang the arrogance out of you. Annoying little cockbreath.

Funny fucking post btw Needsize

 

[ZZuluZ]

Thank you for input Thaibox.

-Zulu

 

[Thaibox]

you're welcome

 

[ZZuluZ]

You know what'd be really neat?

If we each got to train 10 random people to achieve their goals.

I'd bet my life that I'd offer better results.

Of course, you'll reply with your usual witty but ever so void reply.

Why can't you get of my back? Many people here have taken and appreciated my advice. You're arrogance is stunning and so is your hypocrisy. It is becoming more obvious that you contribute nothing to this board.

You probably have issues and enjoy attacking others to make yourself feel better. I have no intention of insulting you...... because I care zilch for your opinion. You, on the other hand, follow me into threads attempting to insult me. Your insults are lost on me, buddy.

But, by all means, keep trying Oh, and if you ever have anything intelligent to say-- you can add that as well.

Cheers,

-Zulu

 

[gettinlarger]

Thanks for actually posting what you know, do, and stats. For your age, I think that's impressive. However, your arrogance is just too much. I appreciate any and everything that is posted by you and everyone else if it helps me out. But please, the board does not need a stuck-up asshole. I know that may seem judgmental, and I apologize. I don't know you as a person, and I'm sure no one here does either. But whenever an insult or a derogatory comment is thrown your way, you immediately retort with a line-by-line examination with a know-it-all attitude. Don't take this as me being an asshole. It is only some constructive criticism. Good luck with your training.

 

[Ingram]

ZZuluZ - I have one question for you...

All of the contestants who placed in the top 10 at the Mr. O this year train using Traditional methods. Are you saying you know more about bodybuilding than each one of these men?

Yes or No?

**** I do not want to read a huge reply composed of words you found in your moms thesaurus. Yes or No, don't even sign your fucking name... I want to see a Yes or a No, nothing else! ****

 

[ZZuluZ]

It's interesting that you insult me for responding when I'm the one getting flamed here.

My arrogance is not inherent to my personality; it is a response to the shit I've been taking from a few people on this board.

The only person I really have a problem here is Thaibox.

Hopefully we'll discuss something productive next time around. Thanks for your comments, although frankly I found them to be quite condescending.

-Zulu

 

[needsize]

I know Zulu may have some potential to contribute to this board someday(read again...someday), but the bullshit drama he brings and immature sophistic attitude he has outweighs anything helpful he may have to say(which isn't fucking much).

I'm tired of his shit. This board has always been great about having little to no bullshit. Now with Zulu and Dumbass its like kindergarden time in the chat room. Yes, we are all sorry that you've had your ass beat your whole life, but take your bullshit somewhere else. Stop acting like you are an intellectual superior. You are a high school turd. Nothing else. The more you talk, the more clear this becomes. We all know that you've never touched touched a weight, or a woman. Maybe thats it. You probably just need to get laid. We all know that no real woman will touch you, so go get a hooker, maybe she'll bang the arrogance out of you. Annoying little cockbreath.

Funny fucking post btw Needsize

Thanks bro, I rather enjoyed reading your reply as well, kinda hit the nail on the head there.

Zulu, I do train people,a nd a lot more than 10 random ones, and every person I have trained has met their personal goals, sheer dumb luck I guess. Good luck on you finding 10 people willing to listen to the training advice of a know it all scrawny punk kid who can only regurgitate stuff that he has read, instead of being able to combine that with personal experience.

You have no business even attempting to reply to thaibox, he, like myself, was a scrawny bastard that managed to take what he has learned and add somewhere around 100lbs to his frame. You're just a scrawny bastard. The funny thing is, myself and others on hear that are causing you so much grief, never have have anything negative to say about anyone, but for some reason everyone around here finds you annoying.

I have no desire to continue this petty little arguement with you, I made the thread as a response to the fact that some have been able to let the original issue go, which is definitely a sign of age. There is a natural heirarchy here, as in any gym in the world. The guys that can demonstrate through their own training, knowlege, and succeses are at the top of that heap. Kids with basically no training experience are at the bottom and are there to learn, but for some reason you don't seem to be here to do that, you come to give advice, which is funny as hell. When I was 16 and had only been training for a little while, I followed the guys that knew what they were talking about around, and tried out basically every piece of training advice that they gave, so I could see what worked for me. And I did this with humility as I knew my place. You need to learn that humility and earn a place in the hierarchy!!!

 

[b fold the truth]

Zulu,

You have vast scientific knowledge. Much more than I perhaps. Your research has all been done by others though...it is time that you do your own research and field study to improve the basis for your statements.

At age 16, I had a lot of knowledge from reading studies, magazines, journals, etc...but my perspectives changed year by year after I found what truly worked for me and others.

You have the knowledge, now put it to work and tell us what is and is not working for you.

B True

 

[strong island]

Don't waste your time with an ignorant kid.

He is knowledgeable but not intelligent.

The most dangerous person, is an idiot who believes he is a genius.

I personally think Zulu(and those like him) make this board worse. I hate to see a newbie(like Zulu) ask for advice and get advice from a newbie(zulu). And to make it worse say that his advice is the best advice or the only advice. But ignorance is bliss...so I hope he is enjoying himself.

But I personally have found the IGNORE function to be a great asset to the board.



peace
SI

 

[ZZuluZ]

BTrue, thanks for your posts and your PMs.... I appreciated it.

-Zulu

 

[scruples]

Originally posted by strong island

The most dangerous person, is an idiot who believes he is a genius.

word...

 

[JOKER47]

You know what'd be really neat?

"Neat"???

Joker

 

[ZZuluZ]

Quick question:

Do you guys know what ad hominem attacks are?

Thaibox, Needize, *insert whoever consider themselves part of the hierarchy here*:

From now on refrain from insulting me and I'll do the same. If you find a flaw in one my comments kindly point it out and explain your reasoning. Ad hominem attacks are of us to no one. I'll do the same.

That way everyone'll be happy. Deal?

-Zulu

 

[needsize]

Quick question:

Do you guys know what ad hominem attacks are?

Thaibox, Needize, *insert whoever consider themselves part of the hierarchy here*:

From now on refrain from insulting me and I'll do the same. If you find a flaw in one my comments kindly point it out and explain your reasoning. Ad hominem attacks are of us to no one. I'll do the same.

That way everyone'll be happy. Deal?

-Zulu

I don't have the energy to continue this, so it sounds good to me

 

[ZZuluZ]

You think I enjoy having this useless flame war? It doesn't help anyone.

Good. So no more insults. If you have a problem with what I say, tell me why. Don't insult me personally.

-Zulu

 

[Lumbuss]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

you made this thread to make fun of me but i dont give a shit, thats whats funny, i just dont give a shit about this board or what anyone thinks of me. i dont even post on this board, or view it hardley. i dont care what exercise you do for your chest and quite frankley i dont give a shit if im right or wrong when it comes to my posts. you may very well know more than me, but in my opinion everything i do is right. what i mean by that is i make my diet perfect. im cutting and that means i eat only brown rice, oatmeal, eggs, tuna, and flax for my non-refeed days. i train the best way i know how, i keep all my workouts under 45 minutes. i dont wase time, all my rest intervals are exactly 2 minutes, i drink exactly the same thing during every workout, and exactly the same thing post workout. i dont sit around and say "maybe i will eat a bannana today because they taste good."

When i train i try and make my routine perfect and the same goes with my diet, and i spend allmost all of my paycheck on vitamins and other supplements. that is what i do give a shit about, i do give a shit about if i come up 2 calories over. what i dont give a shit about is what people think of me or my methods on a chat board.

i dont care if you disagree with me. do what works for you, and i will do what i read is supposed to work for me. why should i do inclines when the stuff i read from the people i trust the most says they are worthless? im not going to give them a try and see if they work, that would be a waste of a chest workout. im not willing to waste a workout or have a cheat day, i dont do that stuff. i write down every calorie i eat on a piece of paper. the other day my mom accidently threw away my paper and i was out all night searching through the trash at the end of our driveway to get the paper so my diet wouldn't be fucked for the day. i honestly dont gain any information from this board. i dont know who knows shit and who doesn't. i cant learn from reading fragments of opinions by people i dont know, who go by "tougharms 333" and shit. I print out articles, and i read them. Articles by people who are experts, and i incorporate their stuff in what i do. I dont post a question and get a million different opinions from people i dont know, and try and pick who is right and who is wrong.

i just dont care about this board. when i first started working out i was like "wow dude, a board with guys with big muscles, i am going to read their stuff and find out what i should do." that worked for a while, but now i just get my information from other sources on the web. that is why i rarley view this board, and i just happened to see it when doing a search.

go ahead and talk shit about me, i actually like it when people talk shit about me because it makes me feel important!!!!!!

 

[Thaibox]

If this board is so useless to you, leave

 

[Thaibox]

Sorry for bringing this up to the top again. I just wanted to say something and then this thread can die.

Zulu.....

I'm am trying to be nice here, sort of like a big brother, I hope you realize that. The reason people are talking shit to you is because of the way you present yourself. For a 16 year old, you are clearly very intelligent and articulate. You have my respect for that. Hell, you even have my envy(I wouldn't have had to pay my way through college if I was that smart at 16). However, your arrogance drowns out anything intelligent you have to say. There is intelligence and there is knowledge. Yes, you are intelligent(for a 16 year old), but you have little to no knowledge as of yet. Hopefully the way you present yourself on these boards is not indicative of the way you conduct yourself in social situations. If so, then people don't like you. You sit in the front of class and answer every question with a ridiculous amount of blabbering. You will be a virgin until you are 42. You will have to look forward to a lifetime of ass beatings.

You said I am part of this "heirarchy". I'm definately not. I sit in the back, listen and learn. I occasionally help where I can. I've only stood out to you because I hate arrogance and sophistic people on soapboxes. I've learned whom to listen to, and whom to ignore based on simple observation.

Hopefully someday you will learn that no one is impressed with big words and intellect. In fact, the very opposite is true.

Chill out. You will learn its more important to make friends than to try and match intellectual wits with people that couldn't care less about your intellect.

My point of this post is to hopefully make you realize that while you think you are impressing people, everyone is actually laughing at you. Weightlifting is a sport of largely empirical support. Pull your head out of the books and journals and put what you have learned to practice. Stop being such a turd before you are completely discredited on this board. It probably doesn't sound like I'm trying to be nice, but I am(like a slap upside the head). Use your intellect wisely here and you could be an asset. Use it as you are, and you will quickly enter the ranks of idiots like Lumbass, NYCBoy, Alex, etc.