Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have been on and off painkillers such as nubain, soma's and oxycontin's more recently-I am not hooked on any one drug but I do crave something all the time (painkillers)-I hate admitting this as I am a very strong-willed person, but obviously not strong enough-I could really use some positive motivation from someone who understands what I'm going through--the morning is the worst--I have had several pros tell me I have phenominal genetics, I think the $$ spent on this bullshit could be used towards my bodybuilding but I just keep telling myself one more day, I feel stuck
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I have an addictive personality as well. Benzo's were my crutch for a while. Xanax and Valium were the only way you could get my ass to calm down, relax, sleep, or(for a while) feel possitive. I relized how they were effecting my gym performance and decided it wasnt' worth half assed, groggy eyed, unmotivated workouts. My strenght went down considerably and all I wanted to do was pop a xan and "relax". I had bad anxiety at the time so it was my "legitimization" for thier use, but felt I was cheating myself, my bodybuilding, by always half assing everything and not foccusing on my training. The funnty thing is I've always known I've been an easily addicted person and for this reason avoid alcohol like the plague, but becasue benzo's had a valid use for my anxiety I wlecomed them with an open mouth and a glass of water to wash them down. The bottom line was I got too carefree on them. That's the point of them afterall. I knew I was tough enought to handle my personal demon, anxiety, and wanted to put my mind to my bodybuilding. I didn't sleep for a few days after quitting and I quite with about 50 xans left in a bottle so the temptaion was alwasy there. I just suked it up, toughed it out, and noticed my performance in the gym return to vulgar intensity. Once off I relized I'm fine afterall. I didn't need them and quite frankly enjoyed not feeliing "cloudy" headed. You just need to find a valued reason to quit.
You need some serious isolation time in a 'pure' environment. I have a friend who beat a more serious addiction by spending time at a rural cottage in the Irish countryside for a month. Of course, you'd only need about a week or so, and don't have to go nearly that far. The main thing is that you have to be rural, and alone....because being in that environment necessitates filling a lot of hours in a day. These hours, after a while, are spent having 'conversations' with one's self. It is in these 'conversations' that you will convince yourself that the painkillers are an unwelcome intruder in your life, and will resolve to kick the habit. My friend kicked a pretty bad addiction to recreational drugs this way, so I'm sure you can do it too. Take a week off, rent a cottage, and take care of business. Good luck, man.
juggernaut7
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hey bro
just think 'who am i?'is decide who u are choosing to be...a painkiller free person...then be that person...staystrong
peace
just think 'who am i?'is decide who u are choosing to be...a painkiller free person...then be that person...staystrong
peace
You need to lean on your friends right now man. I would tell some of your closer friends and have them come up with some kind of game plan with you so that you can kick this habit. Some times you just need to really use your friends as pillars. My friend has a gambling habit and we've helped him through it. Just try and focus on something else. You need to redirect your feelings/cravings for the meds to soemthing else. Everytime you get the craving do something else. Call one of your friends to go out and do something or head straight to the gym. See once you get your body to lean away from your ned craving to wanting the pump of lifting or something else. Good luck
40butpumpin
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Hey g. "I just feel like shit if I don't take anything" means that you are indeed addicted to these drugs. If you are not stopping it is because you can and will convice yourself that it is okay to continue. This is classic addictive rationalization. When you convince yourself that you are in fact addicted, only then will you be able to get on the road to defeating it. I use the word defeating on purpose here because you are most definitely in a war with this thing. You have to get tough man, real tough, and knuckle down and turn your back on this thing and beat it. As you continue using these drugs you will become more and more desensitized and will lose more and more of the self that can get you out of this mess. Dig deep down brother and remember yourself as you were in the past and use that to help yourself. Make no mistake about it, an addiction like this is out to crush you brother, you have to recognize it for what it is and do whatever it takes to get your life back. If you feel like you are overwhelmed and just can't make it brother, then turn to prayer and give God a shot at it. He'll take you just as you are man. I sincerely wish you all the best with this.
At least you have admitted that you have a problem and wanting to overcome it. Thats good that you are not in denial. Its sort of like going in rehab for alcohol / recognizing that you have a dependency for the drug.
Next step is to somehow mentally tell your self, i really don't need these pills to get me through the day ( or an alcoholic would say, i don't really need this drink in the morning/lunch/dinner) . Yeah, it feels good to be on them, but give yourself positive reinforcement .Might not be able to do it cold turkey. But slowly weaning yourself off is progress. Say instead of 4 pills a /day, cut it to 2. A week later down to 1. Before you know it, you won't be taking any at all.
Inner strength to succeed from you, positive reinforcement from friends/family willing to see you through this will help you overcome this dependency. Think of how you felt before you got injured. Damn, look at me, i'm the man. Great physique, blah blah. Psych yourself out that you don't need the pills to feel good.
Next step is to somehow mentally tell your self, i really don't need these pills to get me through the day ( or an alcoholic would say, i don't really need this drink in the morning/lunch/dinner) . Yeah, it feels good to be on them, but give yourself positive reinforcement .Might not be able to do it cold turkey. But slowly weaning yourself off is progress. Say instead of 4 pills a /day, cut it to 2. A week later down to 1. Before you know it, you won't be taking any at all.
Inner strength to succeed from you, positive reinforcement from friends/family willing to see you through this will help you overcome this dependency. Think of how you felt before you got injured. Damn, look at me, i'm the man. Great physique, blah blah. Psych yourself out that you don't need the pills to feel good.
hey man.. ive been there.. i vee been hooked on a few different types of opes b4 and there a bitch to quit..
i know what its like and i know how strong that craving can be but you have to realize that this is a test and you are much stronger then the craving for a little pill.. think of all the things you have accomplished and how hard they were to achieve and try to put things in perspective.. and then you have to realize that the longer you stay on the pills is just taking away from all your other accomplishments and achievements and you just have to realize that your better off w/0 the pills and you really dont need them...
you want to feel good.. go lift.. who cares if its gonna screw with your program a bit.. just lift.. get a nice pump .. or go out and try to beat your personal best. in a lift.. or start a new exercise and try to focus on that and achieve somethig like that..
i know that it helped for me.. i would go out and try to do something to better myself and it helped me stay focussed and to stay off the drugs instead of just moping around and then having to fight the pills off when you feel crappy and want to take one.. if you stay positive all day and keep that mindset going it will be much easier to say no to the pills cause you will be in a better mood when you have to make the tough decision...
good luck. man.. just stick it out and youll bee much better off
i know what its like and i know how strong that craving can be but you have to realize that this is a test and you are much stronger then the craving for a little pill.. think of all the things you have accomplished and how hard they were to achieve and try to put things in perspective.. and then you have to realize that the longer you stay on the pills is just taking away from all your other accomplishments and achievements and you just have to realize that your better off w/0 the pills and you really dont need them...
you want to feel good.. go lift.. who cares if its gonna screw with your program a bit.. just lift.. get a nice pump .. or go out and try to beat your personal best. in a lift.. or start a new exercise and try to focus on that and achieve somethig like that..
i know that it helped for me.. i would go out and try to do something to better myself and it helped me stay focussed and to stay off the drugs instead of just moping around and then having to fight the pills off when you feel crappy and want to take one.. if you stay positive all day and keep that mindset going it will be much easier to say no to the pills cause you will be in a better mood when you have to make the tough decision...
good luck. man.. just stick it out and youll bee much better off
This is kinda funny, I feel that you guys help me more than my friends in real life do, all "juicers" have a unique bond with each other, I really appreciate all the feedback and I WILL beat this starting right now--I feel like shit today (I shot a 40 mg oxy this morning)-the rest of the oxy's just went down the toilet-thank you guys again, you WILL see me on a pro stage within the next few years, you guys are truly a great inspiration to me--peace out-g-dogg
40butpumpin
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g-dogg said:
That's great brother, don't give in man. You WILL make it.
Bootyshaker
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My friend,
If you feel these cravings alot and you have been abusing these drugs for a while... You may be an addict. Take no offence I am a addict.
Do you find that your use of these drugs make your life unmanageable? I myself recently(4 months ago) came to the realization that drugs and alcohol were bringing me down...FAST.
I have joined AA and have been clean of all recreational drugs for 31/2 months now. I am not saying YOU need outside help. I am not preaching(I hope not). But by joining AA and working the program my life has changed for the better so fast I have trouble believing it.
Please remeber that oxycotin is a member of the opiads family(heroin). This drug is a very powerfull and addictive(mentally and PHYSICALLY).
Oxycotin killed more people in North America last year than any other drug. Ie crack,heroin, coke ect..
If you have any questions please e-mail me at [email protected]
Any questions you have I will try my best to answer. I have been through it myself(and still going through it) so I am speaking from experience.
Bootyshaker
Bootyshaker
If you feel these cravings alot and you have been abusing these drugs for a while... You may be an addict. Take no offence I am a addict.
Do you find that your use of these drugs make your life unmanageable? I myself recently(4 months ago) came to the realization that drugs and alcohol were bringing me down...FAST.
I have joined AA and have been clean of all recreational drugs for 31/2 months now. I am not saying YOU need outside help. I am not preaching(I hope not). But by joining AA and working the program my life has changed for the better so fast I have trouble believing it.
Please remeber that oxycotin is a member of the opiads family(heroin). This drug is a very powerfull and addictive(mentally and PHYSICALLY).
Oxycotin killed more people in North America last year than any other drug. Ie crack,heroin, coke ect..
If you have any questions please e-mail me at [email protected]
Any questions you have I will try my best to answer. I have been through it myself(and still going through it) so I am speaking from experience.
Bootyshaker
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Bootyshaker
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It is exactly the same as going into rehab for drinking! Addiction is a disease that cannot be controlled by willpower alone. If you have cancer, can you use your willpower to make it go away?
The problem with addiction is that it is a disease that will keep telling you that you don't have a problem.
Bootyshaker
The problem with addiction is that it is a disease that will keep telling you that you don't have a problem.
Bootyshaker
gtrcivic said:
Bootyshaker
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g-dogg said:
Hey g-dogg,
I see that you are back online now. I just want to let you know that you are not alone. Drug abuse and getting sober was and is the hardest thing I have ever done.
But rest assured that the rewards are greater than you can imagine.
Once again if you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
EASY DOES IT
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bro im sure youll come out of this fine. dont think that your killing yourself in the gym doesnt translate to real life, because it does. if you can put yourself through that amount of pain for the benefit of what will come from it, then im absolutely positive you will do the same with this small problem. good luck.
Bootyshaker
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trial0r said:
I can understand what you are saying. But if you are an addict it is harder than you think. But it can be beaten with knowledge, outside help(family, friends, not including your perk dealer, and a change of lifestyle) ect...
If you are not an addict than you will just have to fight the physical addiction for a while and stay away from those drugs.
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ROLGOR
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There has been a lot of very good advice here. You need to understand that the first step is to understand, REALLY understand one word. NEVER.. I am NEVER going to take that shit again. It sounds easy but it is where most people fail in that fight against addiction. They say the word but they never really embrace it. As others have said. take some time to yourself, do some thinking and really understand that never means forever. It is human nature to make excuses or justify. nothing to be ashamed of but that is important to know. It's a hard road your facing... I know. But you can not really even start your journey until you understand that every time you say. " just one more time" you are really saying "I'm not ready to quit" once you decide to go for it then the saying one day at a time takes on whole new meaning. If you want to e-mail or pm me to talk feel free.
powerforward
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G-dogg,
One thing that could really help, but you may not want to hear, is quit every drug for a couple of weeks. It will help your mind adapt to not needing any drugs. No tylenol, no cold medicine,no gear!It will help. Whatever you decide good luck, I've seen a number of people with serious painkiller addictions and it is a difficult thing to overcome but its obvious you have the ability to dedicate yourself to something(bodybuilding) so use that focus in overcoming this.
One thing that could really help, but you may not want to hear, is quit every drug for a couple of weeks. It will help your mind adapt to not needing any drugs. No tylenol, no cold medicine,no gear!It will help. Whatever you decide good luck, I've seen a number of people with serious painkiller addictions and it is a difficult thing to overcome but its obvious you have the ability to dedicate yourself to something(bodybuilding) so use that focus in overcoming this.
Silverback316
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G-Dawg this is going to be even tougher for you than it is for most people due to the fact that you are around these things constantly. I agree with the guy who said to take some time and really think about this and instill in your mind that you wont touch that shit anymore. When things get tough you need to find a place to go or someone to talk to instead of turing to the pills. You are strong enough to beat this but you have to want to beat this or otherwise it will beat you. Good luck and I will talk to you later.
dumbell150
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G - Be strong bro....Rememeber you gotta be a tough Mofo to work the steel day in and out....Keep your eye on the prize and remember you always have the choice. G Dogg picks the road he wants to travel down. Therfore when its all good, the choices are easy, but whe you feel like shit its time to show what your made off.........Were counting on you......Keep us posted
Numberfive
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G-Dogg, whatever path you take for dealing with this problem, I wish you the best.
You should ask yourself a few questions first.
Do you have any genetic ties to an alcoholic or an addict??
If the answer is yes, how close is that relative to you (brother, sister, third cousin, etc).
Do you use AAS???
Are you having any physiological side effects from discontinuing your use of the pain meds (nausea or extreme pain not related to injury)????
The reason those questions should be of concern to you is that your current problem with pain meds mimicks the classic pattern of behavior that begins the cycle of addiction. If you have a genetic pre-disposition to addictive disease (i.e. father was an alcololic), then you need to understand that this problem demands immediate attention.
The reason I included the qustion about using AAS is that many AAS users have severely addictive personalities.
Many people will experience extreme pain as a result of stopping the use of their pain meds. You'll know there is no good reason for the pain to be there, but you'll address it by taking more meds. It's a physiological "trick" your body will use to maintain the drug intake.
If your answers to these questions give you concern, you need to find a qualified substance abuse professional and address your problem correctly. This is something that will get WAY beyond your control in no time, so don't take any chances. If the cycle of addiction has started, it is not something you can manage alone even if you have all the willpower in the world.
Hope I'm wrong on this one -- either way, I wish you the best of luck.
Let us know how you manage bro
You should ask yourself a few questions first.
Do you have any genetic ties to an alcoholic or an addict??
If the answer is yes, how close is that relative to you (brother, sister, third cousin, etc).
Do you use AAS???
Are you having any physiological side effects from discontinuing your use of the pain meds (nausea or extreme pain not related to injury)????
The reason those questions should be of concern to you is that your current problem with pain meds mimicks the classic pattern of behavior that begins the cycle of addiction. If you have a genetic pre-disposition to addictive disease (i.e. father was an alcololic), then you need to understand that this problem demands immediate attention.
The reason I included the qustion about using AAS is that many AAS users have severely addictive personalities.
Many people will experience extreme pain as a result of stopping the use of their pain meds. You'll know there is no good reason for the pain to be there, but you'll address it by taking more meds. It's a physiological "trick" your body will use to maintain the drug intake.
If your answers to these questions give you concern, you need to find a qualified substance abuse professional and address your problem correctly. This is something that will get WAY beyond your control in no time, so don't take any chances. If the cycle of addiction has started, it is not something you can manage alone even if you have all the willpower in the world.
Hope I'm wrong on this one -- either way, I wish you the best of luck.
Let us know how you manage bro
Bootyshaker
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Re: Your strong Bro!
Not if you are an addict. This is not a problem you want to TRY and tackle on your own.
No flame intended johnboy, but if a person has an allergy to drugs alcohol ect it is a little more complicated than "just say no". Just say no is the first of many steps.
Bootyshaker
johnboy said:
Not if you are an addict. This is not a problem you want to TRY and tackle on your own.
No flame intended johnboy, but if a person has an allergy to drugs alcohol ect it is a little more complicated than "just say no". Just say no is the first of many steps.
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